Army Guy Posted November 12, 2025 Report Posted November 12, 2025 Not only is the new regulations on being a candidate on the verge of being on the extreme left, but there are many more examples... here are a few examples... where does it stop, With this party....With everything being wrong with this country, and some how this is what they the party choose to make Canadians lives that much easier...Their idea was to restrict freedom of speech, because it makes things that much better in this country... What we need is for all parties to concentrate on what is really wrong with this country...Not to be a distraction Quote Manitoba NDP MP Leah Gazan would criminalize those who publicly disagree with her widely shared views on residential schools; in her second attempt to pass a private member’s bill she seeks to make it illegal to condone, deny, downplay or justify these schools Peter MacKinnon: Will wannabe NDP leaders protect free speech from the likes of Leah Gazan? Quote NDP MP until 2025, Charlie Angus , sought to sanction those whose views on the oil and gas industry differed from his. NDP bill would prescribe jail terms for speaking well of fossil fuels | National Post 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Legato Posted November 12, 2025 Report Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Not only is the new regulations on being a candidate on the verge of being on the extreme left, but there are many more examples... here are a few examples... where does it stop, With this party....With everything being wrong with this country, and some how this is what they the party choose to make Canadians lives that much easier...Their idea was to restrict freedom of speech, because it makes things that much better in this country... What we need is for all parties to concentrate on what is really wrong with this country...Not to be a distraction Peter MacKinnon: Will wannabe NDP leaders protect free speech from the likes of Leah Gazan? NDP bill would prescribe jail terms for speaking well of fossil fuels | National Post There's definitely something wrong with the left wing thought process. 2 Quote
herbie Posted November 12, 2025 Report Posted November 12, 2025 Two guys who couldn't give a shit expressing opinions about something of no concern to themselves. It's not about us we hate it so it must be bad by design... Quote
TreeBeard Posted November 12, 2025 Report Posted November 12, 2025 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: What we need is for all parties You didn’t need to trot out lies to criticize what Angus was doing, but that’s what you did saying he is for jailing people who are pro oil industry. I liked the bill. It would’ve ended oil industry propaganda, just like there is a bill that prohibits tobacco companies from advertising their products. Are you pro tobacco advertising and propaganda? 2 Quote
Army Guy Posted November 12, 2025 Author Report Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, herbie said: Two guys who couldn't give a shit expressing opinions about something of no concern to themselves. It's not about us we hate it so it must be bad by design... It's not about two guys ,it's about most of the support for the NDP , exiting because of bad policies and characters within the NDP... I'm sure you are going to mansplain that for us "two guys"....next you can explain why all the WOKE BS about what qualifies as a candidate. I mean lets face reality here the NDP party is a shell of it's former self and that can only be linked to the parties policies and bad leadership.... And it is not that we hate the NDP, it takes all kinds to build a village, and the wacky doodles have to go some where...our political system was designed for just that reason...I have combed through our history and have only come up with a couple of examples of NDP members that were worth anything Jack Layton, Tommy Douglas...and i look at what the NDP is today and laugh.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted November 12, 2025 Author Report Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: You didn’t need to trot out lies to criticize what Angus was doing, but that’s what you did saying he is for jailing people who are pro oil industry. I liked the bill. It would’ve ended oil industry propaganda, just like there is a bill that prohibits tobacco companies from advertising their products. Are you pro tobacco advertising and propaganda? I did not write that article, nor did i say he was for jailing any oil and gas supporters.....That was the other NDP member who is not adult enough to talk or discuss the topic without some feeling some sort of violence.... I am a supporter of free speech, are you that weak you can not control your impulses from advertising....We are bombarded by advertising every day.. what's next we ban or jail anyone talking about the liberal party or trump.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
blackbird Posted November 12, 2025 Report Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: Are you pro tobacco advertising and propaganda? LOL.. Oil and tobacco are two totally different things. Tobacco is harmful to health; oil is necessary for life on earth and needed by the billions of people that use it for everything. Quote
Legato Posted November 12, 2025 Report Posted November 12, 2025 8 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I did not write that article, nor did i say he was for jailing any oil and gas supporters.....That was the other NDP member who is not adult enough to talk or discuss the topic without some feeling some sort of violence.... I am a supporter of free speech, are you that weak you can not control your impulses from advertising....We are bombarded by advertising every day.. what's next we ban or jail anyone talking about the liberal party or trump.... Notice how all the wackadoodles came out with their feeble attacks. Quote
TreeBeard Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: I am a supporter of free speech, are you that weak you can not control your impulses from advertising You think advertising has no effect? That corporations should be allowed to lie to people? Since when are fraudulent claims considered “free speech”? Quote
John Stone Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 NDP? Fair to a fault (losing elections) Quote
paxamericana Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 I’ve been pondering this question for some time and can only surmise it to a bastardized, godless, aspiration of Christianity. Leftist principles are rooted in the Christian tradition of justice and equality but where they fail is the separation from a higher power, a God. Without the fundament of worship and someone to hold you accountable, it quickly devolves into idolatry. Which is why you get the wacki doodles. 2 Quote
Legato Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 16 hours ago, TreeBeard said: You think advertising has no effect? That corporations should be allowed to lie to people? Since when are fraudulent claims considered “free speech”? The media does it on a daily basis. Are you outraged? Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 The best thing that has ever hapened to the NDP was the leadership of Jagmeet Singh. He showed the rest of the country that he had no principles and could be easily swayed bythe most destructive Federal Government in Canada's history. He and his band of brain-dead penguins are complicit with the sliding well-being of Canadians. Hoping the NDP have learned something from their last fiasco. The 'hordes of herbies' wet themselves in anticipation . . . Quote
eyeball Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 19 hours ago, blackbird said: LOL.. Oil and tobacco are two totally different things. Tobacco is harmful to health; oil is necessary for life on earth and needed by the billions of people that use it for everything. Except for the fact that using oil the way you prescribe will make Earth a far more difficult place to live. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
blackbird Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: Except for the fact that using oil the way you prescribe will make Earth a far more difficult place to live. That's life. Wishful thinking can't change the world. Quote
Politics1990 Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 (edited) charlie angus was one of the most respected mps spewing such lies is bs . as far as gazan lady yea shes not my cup a tea even t hough i consider myself ndp leaning more then lib but each party has some wackos you dont like. Edited November 13, 2025 by Politics1990 1 1 Quote
eyeball Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 1 minute ago, blackbird said: That's life. Wishful thinking can't change the world. So speaketh the supplicant. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Army Guy Posted November 13, 2025 Author Report Posted November 13, 2025 19 hours ago, TreeBeard said: You think advertising has no effect? That corporations should be allowed to lie to people? Since when are fraudulent claims considered “free speech”? We have laws on false advertising in this nation to protect its citizens...And what fraudulent claims are are you or Charlie talking about.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: We have laws on false advertising in this nation to protect its citizens... we also have laws specific to the tobacco industry as they are particularly bad faith. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: And what fraudulent claims are are you or Charlie talking about.... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/18/the-forgotten-oil-ads-that-told-us-climate-change-was-nothing https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/09/oil-companies-discourage-climate-action-study-says/ https://ricochet.media/media/media-3/the-disinformation-of-fossil-fuel-advertising-in-canada/ Quote
herbie Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 5 hours ago, paxamericana said: Leftist principles are rooted in the Christian tradition of justice and equality but where they fail is the separation from a higher power Most narrow minded reason to tout 'failure' I've yet to encounter. Tack in all the value of a right wing Yank commenting on the NDP without so much as knowing it was more or less founded by a former Premier and Baptist minister. And like every party of worth, upon the separation between Church and State. Worse, that justice and equality are principles unique to Christianity. Quote
herbie Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 Speaking of advertising, how come Facebook's for months been bombarding me with online Native Cigarette sales when cigarette ads and tax evasion are both criminal offences? Zuckerberg so rich and powerful like the Diapered Donald he's immune to the laws of the land? Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted November 13, 2025 Report Posted November 13, 2025 48 minutes ago, herbie said: Speaking of advertising, how come Facebook's for months been bombarding me with online Native Cigarette sales when cigarette ads and tax evasion are both criminal offences? Zuckerberg so rich and powerful like the Diapered Donald he's immune to the laws of the land? Are you a black market cigarette salesman? Supplementing your meagre union pension? Quote
suds Posted November 16, 2025 Report Posted November 16, 2025 (edited) On 11/13/2025 at 11:30 AM, paxamericana said: I’ve been pondering this question for some time and can only surmise it to a bastardized, godless, aspiration of Christianity. Leftist principles are rooted in the Christian tradition of justice and equality but where they fail is the separation from a higher power, a God. Without the fundament of worship and someone to hold you accountable, it quickly devolves into idolatry. Which is why you get the wacki doodles. One of Christianity's main contributions was the idea of 'love thy neighbour'. It adopted concepts of rationalism and clear thought from the Greeks. The belief in one God and a firm moral code from the Jews. The Jews were banished from their lands because they refused to recognize the Roman emperor as divine. The Greeks were allowed to stay because worshiping one more deity in their temples wasn't considered so bad. Eventually Christianity became the Roman Empires' state religion which allowed it to spread. Equality can mean equality before God, equality before the law, equal opportunity, or equal outcome. Freedom can be seen as being free from the coercion of others, or freedom from want. Liberty, freedom, equality, and even democracy, can be seen as principles of both left and right. Where they can't seem to agree is with the definitions of which such words represent. Edited November 16, 2025 by suds Quote
CdnFox Posted November 18, 2025 Report Posted November 18, 2025 On 11/12/2025 at 10:46 AM, Army Guy said: Not only is the new regulations on being a candidate on the verge of being on the extreme left, but there are many more examples... here are a few examples... where does it stop, With this party....With everything being wrong with this country, and some how this is what they the party choose to make Canadians lives that much easier...Their idea was to restrict freedom of speech, because it makes things that much better in this country... What we need is for all parties to concentrate on what is really wrong with this country...Not to be a distraction Peter MacKinnon: Will wannabe NDP leaders protect free speech from the likes of Leah Gazan? NDP bill would prescribe jail terms for speaking well of fossil fuels | National Post Historically the NDP has always been a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde thing, Either being focused on working class families and the workers and the sort of socialistic support that they feel they should have, and at other times being a left-wing activist party focused on social justice warrior issues and wokeism. Jack Layton would be an example of the former. Jaggers would be a good example of the latter. They have always done their best when they focus on the former, but what you get in the internal party apparatus is a tendency towards activism. Some of the candidates being proposed are really against this kind of stuff, with heather referring to it as purity tests that are unnecessary and hurt the NDP. Others think the NDP should move towards being left-wing activists. We will see how it plays out, but the reality is the NDP simply doesn't do well as an activist party. That's more like the greens. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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