Multiculturalism has been disastrous for Canada

[CITIZEN_2015]

10 minutes ago, CDN1 said:

Demographics are destiny. As Muslims gain political power via ethnic/religious voting blocks they will completely reshape Canadian laws, government, and culture.

 

 

Well said. Brief but to the point.

[Legato]

56 minutes ago, herbie said:

We don't do it to scare you, we do it in the vague hope some of you will recognize you are racist and realize it. And we apply it to everyone who rails on about someone's race, culture or religion not being compatible with the posters because that is in fact the dictionary definition of it.
Regardless of whether you 'like' dictionary definitions or not.

We also recognize the growing number of people with no sense of shame whatsoever who simply deny and can only respond with I know you are but what am I 

Walk like a duck and talk like a duck and we'll call you a duck. Quacking back doesn't help your case.

Since when are Muslims a race?

[I am Groot]

57 minutes ago, herbie said:

We don't do it to scare you, we do it in the vague hope some of you will recognize you are racist and realize it.

If I respected your judgment or integrity, I'd have to consider that, but alas, I don't.

57 minutes ago, herbie said:

And we apply it to everyone who rails on about someone's race, culture or religion not being compatible with the posters because that is in fact the dictionary definition of it.

No, it's not.

57 minutes ago, herbie said:

Regardless of whether you 'like' dictionary definitions or not.

 

rac·ist

characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

Hmm, neither of these seems to apply. You sure you want to hold to that argument about dictionary definitions? Because you don't seem to know what the dictionary definition of racist even IS. Which doesn't surprise me. Few people of your political persuasion seem to.

57 minutes ago, herbie said:

Walk like a duck and talk like a duck and we'll call you a duck. Quacking back doesn't help your case.

You seem to walk, talk and act like an A-hole most of the time. So you might want to reconsider this too.

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Your view of Canadian values certainly don't align with what the vast Canadian's beleive are our values of ethnic and cultural diversity.

To quote from Jonathan Haidt, a very intelligent and mild-mannered, unpolitical social scientist, "You can have diversity within a shared sense of identity, and if you don't have that shared sense of identity, it's going to be very divisive."

So if you have entirely different cultures, you're going to have entirely different values and no shared sense of identity.

Canadians are humans. The book on human psychology is clear. Humans prefer living, working with, and associating with people who are very much like themselves. Canadians who are left of center and who pretty much own the public square all love multiculturalism. The rest do not. 

[LinkSoul60]

9 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

To quote from Jonathan Haidt, a very intelligent and mild-mannered, unpolitical social scientist, "You can have diversity within a shared sense of identity, and if you don't have that shared sense of identity, it's going to be very divisive."

So if you have entirely different cultures, you're going to have entirely different values and no shared sense of identity.

Canadians are humans. The book on human psychology is clear. Humans prefer living, working with, and associating with people who are very much like themselves. Canadians who are left of center and who pretty much own the public square all love multiculturalism. The rest do not. 

The rest is a small %.  Don't confuse our recently too high levels of immigration with multiculturalism.   

Public Opinion: A 2020 Statistique Canada survey found that 92% of Canadians aged 15 and over agreed that ethnic or cultural diversity is a Canadian value. 

https://www.environicsinstitute.org/insights/insight-details/canadians-aren-t-just-adapting-to-diversity-there-are-data-to-show-we-re-embracing-it

 

 

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[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

We don't do it to scare you, we do it in the vague hope some of you will recognize you are racist

No, you do it to scare people.  

99 percent of the time it has nothing to do with racism. I mean you said math was racist.   

You are trying desperately to shame or scare people into doing what you want, it's got nothing to do with 'racism'

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The rest is a small %.  Don't confuse our recently too high levels of immigration with multiculturalism.   

Public Opinion: A 2020 Statistique Canada survey found that 92% of Canadians aged 15 and over agreed that ethnic or cultural diversity is a Canadian value. 

https://www.environicsinstitute.org/insights/insight-details/canadians-aren-t-just-adapting-to-diversity-there-are-data-to-show-we-re-embracing-it

 

 

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After all the protests and violence we've seen in the last couple of years i don't think it would post that high today.  And i think that today people would say immigrants should be canadian first. 

[herbie]

Gee I hear lots of quacking, but your downvotes and lack of reasoned response, the doubling down on the exact thing i criticized you for can only be taken as a badge of honour.

You're in the wrong, but can't admit it even though you know it.

[August1991]

On 9/20/2025 at 9:46 AM, I am Groot said:

It came from a piece I found elsewhere.

 

 

Read the First Amendment to the US Constitution. It restricts what the central power in a federal state can do. Everyone nowadays talks of speech.

Note what it says about religion.

Trudeau Snr thought wisely about "culture".

[August1991]

As to this positive discrimination idea, special status, Trudeau Snr made it plain that French-Canadians did not need extra help.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.3593955

 

[August1991]

Trudeau - Frum Interview

CBC, please release the unedited video.

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Note: Barbara Frum is the mother of David Frum.

Edited September 22, 2025 by August1991

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Canadians who are left of center and who pretty much own the public square all love multiculturalism.

Love? No, love has nothing to do with anything. It's the absence of hate that irks you. Sorry to pee on your pancakes but hate is not a very common value. Were you hoping it was or think it should be?

[Moonlight Graham]

On 9/20/2025 at 8:29 PM, eyeball said:

Another thread that underscores why I identify as an Earthling.

Once ya'll get your silly countries off my planet maybe we can develop a more common values-based culture that kids usually have their heads around by the time they graduate kindergarten.

"Earthling" is a submissive stance though.  If your child comes home and says they cant celebrate Halloween at school anymore, you just lost some of your ability to practice your culture.

Do you allow a guest into your home and allow them to change the colour of the drapes to better suit them?   If you do it prevents arguments, but maybe you really liked those drapes...

Nice guys, they always finish last.  Aggressive people?...Arseholes.  Being assertive is the reasonable compromise between the extremes.  It's ok to stand up for yourself, but it won't make you as many friends because a lot of people don't like hearing the word "no".  But were they really your friends in the first place?  Sometimes there's more important things than being liked, and sometimes certain things are worth defending.

[Moonlight Graham]

55 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Love? No, love has nothing to do with anything. It's the absence of hate that irks you. Sorry to pee on your pancakes but hate is not a very common value. Were you hoping it was or think it should be?

What if progressives hate themselves as much as conservatives hate immigrants?  Not hate so much as "low valuation".  The guilt and shame of being a white person telling a non-white person the word "no" is a powerful thing that shapes our society.  The bleeding hearts don't like hurting people's feelings.  But when do they care about their own?

[eyeball]

22 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

"Earthling" is a submissive stance though.

Not in the least. We were here first and seniority matters.

Get in line.

18 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

What if progressives hate themselves as much as conservatives hate immigrants?  Not hate so much as "low valuation".  The guilt and shame of being a white person... 

LMAO!

Where on Earth do you people come up with this shit?

[BeaverFever]

On 9/19/2025 at 8:39 PM, I am Groot said:

You realize the major cause of rightist anger towards the left IS immigration, right?

Great so now that immigration has been capped you’re not angry anymore right?

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, herbie said:

Gee I hear lots of quacking, but your downvotes and lack of reasoned response, the doubling down on the exact thing i criticized you for can only be taken as a badge of honour.

You're in the wrong, but can't admit it even though you know it.

I suppose if being a complete dickwad is a battle of Honor for you, then you must be one of the most revered men in canadian history  

I just don't like to see you glorifying the killing of another person. But at the end of the day you've got to do you and I have to admit that is very you

[I am Groot]

On 9/21/2025 at 11:31 PM, BeaverFever said:

Great so now that immigration has been capped you’re not angry anymore right?

Immigration was too high in 2015. That's why Immigration Canada warned we were losing our absorptive capacity. It's far too high now with no plans for any substantial decrease.

[I am Groot]

[I am Groot]

On 9/21/2025 at 5:11 PM, LinkSoul60 said:

The rest is a small %.  Don't confuse our recently too high levels of immigration with multiculturalism.   

Our immigration has been too high since Mulroney nearly tripled it in the mid-1980s because he was informed that immigrants from places without a culture/tradition of democracy would become lifelong party supporters out of gratitude once they gained citizenship. That's why Immigration Canada warned in a report that Canada was losing its absorptive capacity. 

On 9/21/2025 at 5:11 PM, LinkSoul60 said:

Public Opinion: A 2020 Statistique Canada survey found that 92% of Canadians aged 15 and over agreed that ethnic or cultural diversity is a Canadian value. 

Of course they do! Every authority has been telling them it is for the last fifty years, reinforcing that with anathematizing anyone who expressed even the slightest doubt about it. Admitting they were wrong, as the British, Germans, and French did, is not in them. They lack that courage. They cling to the belief despite zero evidence that multiculturalism is doing anything good for this country and plenty of evidence that it's doing harm.

[I am Groot]

On 9/21/2025 at 4:29 PM, Legato said:

Since when are Muslims a race?

Muslims are members of a religious and ideological group that despises and wishes to destroy everything herbie believes in, but who he has to slavishly defend because he perceives that they are brown.