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44 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

No, they didn't. Prove it.

You said they did, i'm quoting you.  So are you saying you were lying?

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

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So many of us hoped that a capitalist China would follow America’s democratic example but the opposite looks more likely as the strategies of Orban and Erdoğan are being implemented stateside with impressive alacrity. America’s media is moving into the hands of Trump-friendly oligarchs like Larry Ellison to whom we are so many zeroes and ones. The message could not be clearer: please the leader or you will be purged.

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‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’

Posted
38 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

So many of us hoped that a capitalist China would follow America’s democratic example but the opposite looks more likely as the strategies of Orban and Erdoğan are being implemented stateside with impressive alacrity. America’s media is moving into the hands of Trump-friendly oligarchs like Larry Ellison to whom we are so many zeroes and ones. The message could not be clearer: please the leader or you will be purged.

Heck even Trudeau said he admired the Chinese dictatorship :) 

The problem is when one side stops respecting the process and begins overreach and begins to attack the other side, the other side will return the favor even a little bit harder. That process continues and it's a race to the bottom. The dam is open that door with their loft air and going after conservative organizations in businesses using the tax department in Google and other similar activities and now it's getting paid back and I suspect that they won't learn their lesson and will continue to do the same thing next time which will lead the republicans to do even more the next time and so on and so forth.

And this is how empires come to an end

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

No, they haven’t. But you guys have certainly tried to pin it on every person left of Warren Buffett.

Here's part of what Kimmel actually said... I'd note that you gave the MAGA vs MAGA spin a pretty good effort as well with the idea that it was actually a MAGA shooter targeting another MAGAT because he wasn't MAGATy enough:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said."

 

It seems to me that the cancel culture creatures are now lining up to cancel themselves in droves. This concept of cancelling people whose message you find offensive is/was the darling of the left... you (and I don't mean YOU specifically here) were repeatedly warned about the consequences of doing this, both in general and even right here on this forum. How many times did you hear that once you actually arrived on Crazy Island that you wouldn't like it there.

As I perused the various "expressions of dismay" posted here, each one of them lead me to a single question:

"WTF did you think was going to happen?" 

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5 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Here's part of what Kimmel actually said... I'd note that you gave the MAGA vs MAGA spin a pretty good effort as well with the idea that it was actually a MAGA shooter targeting another MAGAT because he wasn't MAGATy enough:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said."

 

It seems to me that the cancel culture creatures are now lining up to cancel themselves in droves. This concept of cancelling people whose message you find offensive is/was the darling of the left... you (and I don't mean YOU specifically here) were repeatedly warned about the consequences of doing this, both in general and even right here on this forum. How many times did you hear that once you actually arrived on Crazy Island that you wouldn't like it there.

As I perused the various "expressions of dismay" posted here, each one of them lead me to a single question:

"WTF did you think was going to happen?" 

And fox a. Fox News guy said that the homeless should be euthanized.  That comment wasn't sanctioned.

 

 

 

Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase !

Michael Hardner

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46 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And fox a. Fox News guy said that the homeless should be euthanized.  That comment wasn't sanctioned.

 

How about one topic at a time Michael I'm not going to follow you all around the forest... there's a ban in place.

As a general response though, the leftist defenders of cancel culture were repeatedly warned about the see-saw effect they were setting in motion with this. Seems like you were expecting a different result.

Fear not, the leftists will get their turn back soon enough, that's the problem with this stuff and it illustrates why Crazy Island isn't the vacation paradise progressives see it as.

Take a look at what's going on in the UK now and imagine it to be stood entirely on its head... because it absolutely will be in the fullness of time IMO. Pretty sure the people cheering now won't be cheering when that happens.

The side effect of all this serves to make people meaner, more polarized and more vengeful and it applies across the board simply because it's human nature. At a more primitive level, if you ever find yourself refereeing cattle stealing in Africa it's really an exercise in WHATABOUTISM too. That is until everybody sees that you can actually read sign... see that track here?? I bet it belongs to that cow right there in the corral, should we check?

POOF, everyone suddenly becomes cooperative...  it's a game played for temporary advantage and it serves no one in the long run. IMO of course.

 

 

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Posted
7 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

A MAGA kid shot up a school in Colorado last week and you didn't say a word. How come?

Because there was no Maga kid that shot up a school. He was a white supremacist. And white supremacists voted for Kamala:

Prominent white supremacist Richard Spencer endorses Kamala Harris

They liked that she would let Palestinians kill jews and that blacks would have a harder time finding jobs under her. 

57 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And fox a. Fox News guy said that the homeless should be euthanized.  That comment wasn't sanctioned.

 

 

No. He said homeless people that are guilty of violent crimes and refuse treatment should get the death penalty. Still controversial, but definitely not euthanasia. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

Posted
6 hours ago, Army Guy said:

It was not Jimmies platform was it, he was an employee , who I'm sure signed a contract, that spelled out the companies objectives what he could comment on or not, and I'm sure all of his material was approved by a higher authority...so he was not free to say what ever came to mind....most jobs have a code of conduct, so yes speech is limited , don't like it then find another job...or like jimmy was fired as he took it to far...Tell your boss to F off , or something to that effect and tell them that your using your free speech and see where it gets you...Are you from this planet ?

That’s a lot of words to say you don’t care if government suppresses free speech.

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

 

"WTF did you think was going to happen?" 

Exactly what is happening.

Posted
24 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

No. He said homeless people that are guilty of violent crimes and refuse treatment should get the death penalty. Still controversial, but definitely not euthanasia. 

He said "involuntary lethal injection." Euthanasia would be a nicer way of putting it 

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Posted
11 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

But it's refreshing to have cancel culture increase its scope I heard.

Meh, doesn't matter...

Its a simple example of just how sick and disgusting Libbies really are Mike.

Weak minded goofs who gather and act like low lifes. 

For instance...partaking in calling my wife a whore. 

Right Mike?

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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22 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Exactly what is happening.

Me too.

I think it's the result of a series of bad choices for temporary political gain and those choices  were made in a cynical and self serving manner. I also happen to think it gets worse from here on as the flame it ignited becomes self sustaining and hungry for more fuel.

The only discussion actually worth having here is how to dampen the fire... watch, that isn't going to happen though.

There's a curious (at least for me) element of joy in this battle; a passive aggressive thing maybe... I'm not sure. Scale and circumstances are always different but the outcome is generally similar, you can see it in small scale neighbourhood disputes too if you look at it objectively.

Things slowly turn toxic and then result in various forms of violence from minor to extreme. It usually starts over a dog that craps at the end of someone's driveway (or something like that) and then it escalates.

By the time violence actually erupts the dog has been dead for 2 years.  

Got to run... cheers

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Posted
11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

the left went out of its way to create that fascist state and now we all have to live with it.

Cry me a river! A Fox news host can call for euthanasia and that's ok? As usual your extreme partisanship nakes you stupid.

Let's hope the American virus doesn't spread any further in Canada.

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

He said "involuntary lethal injection." Euthanasia would be a nicer way of putting it 

Isn't it convenient how you leave all the circumstances out? 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Circumstances? 

Committed a violent act

Offered treatment

Refused treatment

The scenario being discussed was a homeless person violently attacks someone, is convicted, offered treatment and refuses. Rather than letting them out to do it again, they get capitol punishment. 

That is pretty controversial, but it isn't even remotely what you claim it was. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

Posted
36 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Committed a violent act

Offered treatment

Refused treatment

The scenario being discussed was a homeless person violently attacks someone, is convicted, offered treatment and refuses. Rather than letting them out to do it again, they get capitol punishment. 

That is pretty controversial, but it isn't even remotely what you claim it was. 

He said "just kill them" when talking about the homeless, not this one individual. You can create an alternate reality where that didn't happen because you can't think of another way to defend it, but you're not fooling anyone 

Posted
13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Where were all these calls of fascism when the Biden admin was deplatforming social influencer and political commentators on Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc? The Biden admin literally sent people to work at these companies and relay exactly what was and wasn't allowed. Don't believe me? Look at the Twitter files and Zuckerberg's testimony to congress.

Fake news. This is one of the most pathetic tactics of the right. Republicans do something indefensible and then try to discredit the backlash with some ridiculous made up claim that basically amounts to “where was the outrage when Obama was pushing children into a wood-chipper and drinking smoothies made out of pureed aborted fetuses?”  Another variation of this is to cite something that actually DID happen but exaggerate how bad it is “but Obama forced employers to offer workers health insurance that’s no different than Stalin’s atrocities” or “but her emails!”

 

13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

By the way, this isn't fascism. These businesses are doing it because their on air talent is not getting the ratings that they need. He's second to a show that is canceled because it wasn't making enough money. Let that sink in. Many podcasts have more viewers than Kimmel. He was already done, this just gave them an easy out. 

Also fake news. Disney put the show on hiatus and separately a nationwide  of local tv stations dropped the show from its lineup because they weee both pressured by FCC. Kimmel’s comments were pretty harmless definitely far less than the vulgarity that Republicans spewed when Paul Pelosi was attacked. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

He said "just kill them" when talking about the homeless, not this one individual.

Only in the shortened, context removed sound bite.

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Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

Posted
12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You supported the gov't forcing people to take a dangerous injection that they absolutely did not need, and now you're crying "FASCIM!!!" because a guy got fired for dancing on someone's grave? 😂

LMAO spare me Kovid Konspiracy Krap. You know Trump takes credit for the vaccine rollout and made a big public spectacle of getting vaccinated himself, right?    Second of all, Kimmel wasn’t dancing on anyone’s grave he CORRECTLY pointed put how Trump was politicizing it and showed a clip of Trump responding to a question about Kirk by bragging about his new taxpayer funded ballroom he’s having added to the White House. So just stop with your lying. 
 

You don’t even know the meaning of the word “cultist” like all your insults you just use it as a generic insult for anyone you don’t like. Words and truth have no meaning to MAGAs like you, you just copy us when we correctly and ACCURATELY point out that Trump supporters behave like cult followers. Your whole “If you’re not in our cult that means you’re a cultist duuuh I’m a high school dropout in his mid 50s who still has the brain of a teenager and an income  to match“ schtick is really tiresome. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Fake news. This is one of the most pathetic tactics of the right.

Except, real news:

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Google, Twitter, Meta and TikTok’s executive ranks have included over 200 former employees of surveillance government agencies, creating an employment pipeline between the government and Big Tech companies, a Daily Caller investigation found.

The technology companies recruited 248 employees from the DOJ, FBI, CIA and DHS, a LinkedIn search revealed. The hiring occurred mostly between 2017-2022, with several filling top director positions after having decade-long careers in the surveillance agencies.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/09/google-twitter-meta-tiktok-crawling-hundreds-former-feds/

That establishes they had people in the tech companies. 

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Biden administration coerced social media giants into possible free speech violations: court

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/09/08/biden-administration-coerced-facebook-court-rules/70800723007/

That establishes they coordinated with tech companies to censor.

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Today, the Justice Department filed a statement of interest in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in the case of Children’s Health Defense et al. v. Washington Post et al. The lawsuit — led by plaintiffs allegedly deplatformed for sharing independent news and opinion related to the COVID-19 pandemic — alleges that the Washington Post, BBC, AP, and Reuters colluded with one another and with the large digital platforms to suppress competition from independent perspectives that rival mainstream media.  The statement of interest explains how the antitrust laws protect viewpoint competition in news markets.    

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-files-statement-interest-suppression-competition-marketplace-ideas

That establishes that users were deplatformed.

What is pathetic is that I had to spend 2 minutes looking up publicly available news because you were willfully unaware. I suspect this more of a case of denial than ignorance. 

As for Kimmel:

Analyst: Network Late-Night Talk Shows Became Unprofitable in 2023

Kimmel was on his way out there door and he knew it. That is why he used such vulger language whe  CBS canceled Colbert. Something line F*** you and all your Sheldons at CBS. He knew he was next. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

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