What The Liberals Did To Canada

[LinkSoul60]

13 hours ago, Army Guy said:

There is lots of doubt, consumer doubt ....why is it EV sales tanked by 50 %, or other ev companies writes off 27 bil in debt in the EV market....this is not a North American issue this is globally...And now your stating EV will be the dominant vehicles sold in just 5 years...maybe you have a source for that ? Manufactures may be going down that path, but there are lots of paths....EV is one of them...but no where near at the pace they are sell Fossil fuel vehicles...

Yep... I think EV's will account for the larger percentage of sales in 5 years...or thereabouts.  The world evolves, regardless of this short-termed US admin's backwards view of it.

[Legato]

45 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No, pathetic is switching gears in a conversation to something irrelevant to the topic when the facts go against your original claims.  

My original claims were sidestepped by your feeble attempts to shift the goalposts. Pathetic.

Iv'e now repeated them three times.

No more.

Do try harder it's not becoming.

[LinkSoul60]

18 minutes ago, Legato said:

My original claims were sidestepped by your feeble attempts to shift the goalposts. Pathetic.

Iv'e now repeated them three times.

No more.

Do try harder it's not becoming.

'Original' means first.  The 'original' conversation was about government regulations, but that didn't work for your typical 'look at what the 'liberals did' schtick which meant a quick shift to Biden and Trudeau.

No point in trying harder with someone who can't stay on topic when facts get in the way.

[Legato]

12 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

'Original' means first.  The 'original' conversation was about government regulations, but that didn't work for your typical 'look at what the 'liberals did' schtick which meant a quick shift to Biden and Trudeau.

No point in trying harder with someone who can't stay on topic when facts get in the way.

My first post...

Recalls and penalties stemming from government-mandated fuel economy and emissions standards have cost automakers billions of dollars, often driven by the need to squeeze higher efficiency out of internal combustion engines or by overstating fuel economy to meet targets. 

You then pretzelled yourself to deny any of the above. Pathetic.

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

My first post...

Recalls and penalties stemming from government-mandated fuel economy and emissions standards have cost automakers billions of dollars, often driven by the need to squeeze higher efficiency out of internal combustion engines or by overstating fuel economy to meet targets. 

You then pretzelled yourself to deny any of the above. Pathetic.

 

 

Yes, you are...

[Legato]

Just now, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes, you are...

Yes dear.

[Goddess]

The federal government has until close of business today to apply to the Supreme Court of Canada to appeal the decision upholding Justice Mosley's ruling that the Emergency Act's invocation was illegal.

If they don't file today, the decision stands.

[Goddess]

China just slapped 13.8% tariffs on Canada's butyl rubber products.

We make these in conjunction with Japan, who just got slapped with 30% tariffs on the same products.

This is our preferred "strategic partner" because they are so reliable and stable. 🙄

If it was the US doing this, you would have heard about it on CBC, but it's China, so you won't hear about it.

 

[Goddess]

Carney's 26 trips to diversify trade, laid out in one place.

Mark Carney’s 26 trips abroad: A breakdown of the prime minister’s trade deals and travel after 1 year in office - The Hub

Despite the majority of Prime Minister Mark Carney’s 26 trips to foreign focusing on diversifying trade, no major expansive trade deals have yet been signed.

“Only one new trade agreement has formally been signed, [with Indonesia], and it has not yet actually been ratified yet.”

Steinberg also pointed to reductions in Chinese agricultural tariffs, but noted that this only brings us back to the 2024 status quo, rather than adding net-new export destinations.

While Steinberg believes Carney is on the right track with signing new trade deals, he says it’s too early to celebrate. He adds that trade with the U.S. should still be Canada’s primary focus.

“I applaud the ongoing discussions with other trade partners, especially India, where I see great long-term potential, but most of these discussions have yet to actually reduce any trade barriers,” Steinberg explained.

“Carney’s primary focus should be on renegotiating CUSMA, or at least keeping it alive until President Trump leaves office. Losing CUSMA would hurt our economy more than any potential trade agreements with other countries could possibly help it.”

While laudable, the economics professor sees diversifying the bulk of Canada’s trade elsewhere outside of the States to be a foolhardy exercise.

[ironstone]

Canada's global performance rankings are in freefall

Not too much to brag about since 2015 apparently.

https://archive.ph/UOYsr

[Goddess]

Carney has convened an "Online Safety Advisory Panel".  To go along with all his censorship bills.

Government of Canada reconvenes the expert advisory group on online safety - Canada.ca

One of the "expert advisors" on the panel is Bernie Farber.

Bernie Farber is the co-founder of the Canadian Anti Hate Network, recently resigning as Chair.

A few things you should know about the CAHN and Bernie Farber:

1.  In 2022, the CAHN lost a defamation case in Ontario, in which they assisted Antifa.

Ontario school board paid co-founder of group later linked to Antifa in court $39K

 

2.  CAHN was used by the Liberal government to feed misinformation to the media about the Freedom Convoy and many believe they were behind the random Nazi flag spotted at the protest.  Farber concocted "evidence" against protesters by claiming anti-semitic flyers circulated in Miami 2 weeks prior were being distributed at the Convoy.  Farber was frequently called out on it by journalists who were NOT the CBC.

 

So Bernie Farber will be fabricating evidence against Canadians, who will be jailed, UK style, under Canada's 4 new censorship bills, with no warrants, no judicial oversight.

Carney is setting things up to deal with dissenters of whatever he's going to do to Canada next.

Edited March 16 by Goddess

[ExFlyer]

On 3/15/2026 at 3:47 PM, Army Guy said:

Slowed is not the word i would use, with most of the big 5 auto makers either stopped making EV's or have slowed manufacturing them but huge amounts....

I guess your not getting it, if sales of EV have dropped dramatically more than 50 % according to one source i provided ...and I'm just brain storming here, how long do you think the people that make the batteries will be employed....or their staff reduced...making it a bad investment of( bils ) of our tax dollars....when this country has much urgent issues that could have really used those fund to keep Canadians healthy or safe. 

Slowed becasue subsidies and grants were revoked.

Sales will come back.

"Global EV sales reached a record 17 million in 2024, representing over 20% of new cars sold, with the total global electric fleet approaching 58 million

. Despite a slight, temporary dip in early 2026 due to policy changes, the market continues to grow, projected to exceed 20 million in 2025. China leads with over 11 million sold in 2024, followed by rapid growth in Europe, while North American sales show more varied growth

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes, really...  

Investing.com -- The share of US-manufactured passenger vehicles imported to Canada has fallen to a historic low of 36% during the first 10 months of 2025, according to Statistics Canada data.

 

And? we don't pay tariffs on them either way.  We allow a large number of cars to be imported from the us tariff free, and in fact hat was recently expanded.   We don't pay tariffs on cars made in canada, that's the americans.  Did you forget? Only americans pay tariffs on vehicles from canada to the us.  Soooo ----  no not really. You're entirely wrong. 

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This represents a significant decline from the 49% average maintained during the previous decade, continuing a downward trend that began in the 1990s when US-made cars represented 70% of Canadian passenger vehicle imports.

Yes, i know.  We make most of the cars we buy here in canada.  That's what i said.  And we STILL don't pay tariffs on them so not only are you still wrong, you're wrong twice and took the time to prove i'm right  LOLOL  

well done! You're pretty close to peak stupid   It's the americans not the canadians who pay the us tariffs on cars.  we allow a certain number of cars to be imported for free and the automakers tend to make the rest in canada. IN the us they pay tariffs. 

 

[LinkSoul60]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And? we don't pay tariffs on them either way.  We allow a large number of cars to be imported from the us tariff free, and in fact hat was recently expanded.   We don't pay tariffs on cars made in canada, that's the americans.  Did you forget? Only americans pay tariffs on vehicles from canada to the us.  Soooo ----  no not really. You're entirely wrong. 

Think twice, talk once...  Auto manufacturers have incurred tariff related costs (got that?).  Those incurred costs are then rolled into the cost of manufacturing those vehicles which are then passed on to the consumer (got that?). That's not hard to understand, is it..?

 

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Carney has convened an "Online Safety Advisory Panel".  To go along with all his censorship bills.

Government of Canada reconvenes the expert advisory group on online safety - Canada.ca

One of the "expert advisors" on the panel is Bernie Farber.

RCMP intelligence reports, obtained via freedom of information requests and highlighted in our previous coverage, paint Farber as a problematic figure. In assessments related to groups like Diagolon and the Freedom Convoy, the RCMP described Farber as an “inflammatory, politically motivated operative” who “makes negative or inflammatory comments about political candidates to the right of the Liberal Party.” They viewed him as an “agent provocateur” who “inflates the truth, alters public perception, and manipulates Canadian law enforcement.” The reports expressed concern over his “influence over policing,” noting how CAHN shapes law enforcement targeting through training and consultations. Farber has been accused of misinformation, such as falsely linking an antisemitic flyer to the Convoy.

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Think twice, talk once...  Auto manufacturers have incurred tariff related costs (got that?).

 

They haven't. But i love your new "think never talk like a twat" model, its' a good look for you

 

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Those incurred costs are then rolled into the cost of manufacturing those vehicles which are then passed on to the consumer (got that?).

Still wrong kiddo.  Sorry.   Car manufacturers do pass on the costs of tariffs to the consumer but so far that really hasn't affected canadian buyers.  In fact, new car prices went DOWN in 2025.  If there's any increase in price it's on very select vehicles and circumstances and amounts to next to nothing. 

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That's not hard to understand, is it..?

It's not hard to understand it's just wrong.  Prices went down.  Oooopsie, maybe should have checked that before talking  

The tariffs affect the americans more than us, the american consumers pay.  IT's either no difference or so close as to be irrelevant in canada. 

But i appreciate your willingness to look stupid for my amusement  

[Army Guy]

8 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yep... I think EV's will account for the larger percentage of sales in 5 years...or thereabouts.  The world evolves, regardless of this short-termed US admin's backwards view of it.

No,it is good your optimistic, just right now the facts do not support your case....Sales are down globally...so i don't think this all about trump.... 

[LinkSoul60]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They haven't. But i love your new "think never talk like a twat" model, its' a good look for you

 

Still wrong kiddo.  Sorry.   Car manufacturers do pass on the costs of tariffs to the consumer but so far that really hasn't affected canadian buyers.  In fact, new car prices went DOWN in 2025.  If there's any increase in price it's on very select vehicles and circumstances and amounts to next to nothing. 

It's not hard to understand it's just wrong.  Prices went down.  Oooopsie, maybe should have checked that before talking  

The tariffs affect the americans more than us, the american consumers pay.  IT's either no difference or so close as to be irrelevant in canada. 

But i appreciate your willingness to look stupid for my amusement  

Here, maybe read this....  Analyzing financial reports that were available at the time of publication, Automotive News (subscription required) reports that U.S. tariffs have cost automakers "at least $35.4 billion since 2025."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-tariffs-cost-automakers-over-204500959.html

 

If you can't or refuse to even spend 30 seconds looking for information, go play with someone else.  I have no time or interest for your constant and never-ending stupidity of denying anything and everything without making the slightest effort to look for facts.  

 

 

[I am Groot]

The percentage of Canadian adults with very good to perfect functional health declined from 68.6% in 2015 to 56.4% in 2024.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Here, maybe read this....  Analyzing financial reports that were available at the time of publication, Automotive News (subscription required) reports that U.S. tariffs have cost automakers "at least $35.4 billion since 2025."https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-tariffs-cost-automakers-over-204500959.html

 

 

Yeah.  But not canadian consumers.  Those are us automakers.  Here's a non paywall link

Trump tariffs cost automakers more than $35 billion since 2025 - Automotive News

They are specifically talking about America. And Distributors such as Toyota in America.

That's why you hit it behind a paywall right? You knew you were being a lying scumbag so you figured you try and hide it?

How pathetic you are. You take an article that proves what I'm saying is true, you take a paywall version that hides the fact you're lying and try to pass that off based on the headline 

 

Well you've proven I'm right. You are comfortably one of the stupidest leftist Twat wads on this forum, and we've got Robo Smith

 

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

No,it is good your optimistic, just right now the facts do not support your case....Sales are down globally...so i don't think this all about trump.... 

Been wrong lots of times before, but I can't and hopefully won't see any future administrations that could be less environmentally responsible than this one is.  Yes EV sales have declined and there are reasons for that... higher cost, removing incentives, smaller charging infrastructure, distance anxiety, etc but that will change as new government policies, evolving battery technology, and the growth of the charge infrastructure.  The world has been and continues to electrify and cars will be a larger part of that as manufacturers find economies of scale for cost, battery tech gets better and the charging infrastructure is more readily available.  

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah.  But not canadian consumers.  Those are us automakers.  Here's a non paywall link

Trump tariffs cost automakers more than $35 billion since 2025 - Automotive News

They are specifically talking about America. And Distributors such as Toyota in America.

That's why you hit it behind a paywall right? You knew you were being a lying scumbag so you figured you try and hide it?

How pathetic you are. You take an article that proves what I'm saying is true, you take a paywall version that hides the fact you're lying and try to pass that off based on the headline 

 

Well you've proven I'm right. You are comfortably one of the stupidest leftist Twat wads on this forum, and we've got Robo Smith

 

So we're back on the 'not Canadian's', who happened to purchase US vehicles...   Can you not understand that if the auto maker incurs those tariffs costs they're going to go apply those into the dealers purchase price of the vehicle? That's not hard to understand is it....  And I don't give a damn if less US vehicles were imported into Canada last year....the Canadian consumer paid, and is paying for those tariff costs in the US produced vehicle they purchased....which was the conversation.  Don't be so fùcking stupid....

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So we're back on the 'not Canadian's',

 

You mean exactly where we started and have been the whole way through?

Sorry your attempt to move the goalposts failed on you. 

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Can you not understand that if the auto maker incurs those tariffs costs they're going to go apply those into the dealers purchase price of the vehicle?

American dealers will tack it on to the purchase price of vehicles sold to americans. Regardless of where they're made. 

But canadian dealers don't because they don't pay the tariffs and it would leave them vunerable to other brands if they tried to offset their us losses in canada

The evidence has been placed right before you.  It's clear as a bell. The amount that Canadian cars have gone up as a result of the tarrifs is either very nearly zero or very actually zero. 

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

And I don't give a damn if less US vehicles were imported into Canada last year..

YOU were the one who brought it up. 

You've completely p*ssed and shat yourself kid.  Badly.  Your entire premise has been shot down dozens of different ways. Car prices on those cars fell last year, it didn't go up. Canadians don't pay american tariffs.   The US has taken a hit from the tariffs price wise but the US is NOT canada. 

You're just plain wrong and at this point you should be deeply ashamed you're not smart enough to see that. 

[LinkSoul60]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You mean exactly where we started and have been the whole way through?

Sorry your attempt to move the goalposts failed on you. 

American dealers will tack it on to the purchase price of vehicles sold to americans. Regardless of where they're made. 

But canadian dealers don't because they don't pay the tariffs and it would leave them vunerable to other brands if they tried to offset their us losses in canada

The evidence has been placed right before you.  It's clear as a bell. The amount that Canadian cars have gone up as a result of the tarrifs is either very nearly zero or very actually zero. 

YOU were the one who brought it up. 

You've completely p*ssed and shat yourself kid.  Badly.  Your entire premise has been shot down dozens of different ways. Car prices on those cars fell last year, it didn't go up. Canadians don't pay american tariffs.   The US has taken a hit from the tariffs price wise but the US is NOT canada. 

You're just plain wrong and at this point you should be deeply ashamed you're not smart enough to see that. 

What a fool...  Delete 

The automaker who incurred the tariffs will pass that cost onto to the Canadian dealer who purchases the US made car.  

Figure it out for yourself now...

[CdnFox]

49 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

What a fool...  Delete 

Delete?  LOL  you're going back to cut out the posts where you look stupid or something?

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The automaker who incurred the tariffs will pass that cost onto to the Canadian dealer

No they won't and they didn't.  As i said prices went down. IF they did they would become uncompetative against the other brands who don't have to do that such as toyota or hyundai or subaru or volkswagen etc.  In america all of those are tariffed so they don't have the same problem there. 

We can look at the prices.  We KNOW they didn't.  They either ate the difference or passed it on to us consumers. You're demonstrably wrong. IF there was any 'increase', or should i say a reduction in the decrease, it was tiny and inconsequential and too small to accurately detect.  

 

So you made up a lie you thought sounded good you thought would support your argument and it was 100 percent wrong, and that's been proven.  And your embarrassing yourself by pooping your pants and crying like a baby now. FFS kid, have a LITTLE self respect. And next time do your homework, ESPECIALLY if it's me talking, i don't make stuff up.