Reg Volk Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 1 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Legato said: Hayzeus man stay on track you shift the goalposts so many time time we are now playing 3 time zones away. I am talking about costs of the Biden government mandates on emissions which have resulted in billions in unnecessary costs. Than you blabbed something about tariffs. More clueless babble. Follow the bouncing ball.... The original convo is quality and costs to meet fuel regulations. Fxx starts babbling about everything, AG is talking battery plants and subsidies, and now after learning that Harper was the one who signed the Canadian gas emissions regulation that you thought was a joke you jumped to Biden's EV mandates. I'm guessing you're done with Harper's stewardship of the environment, right...? As far as Biden goes... It was the right idea but the requirements didn't meet the time frame reality of what the consumer wants and/or can afford. There's no doubt EV's will be the dominant selling vehicle in another 5 years or less. When they'll be mandated who knows, but manufacturers are and will continue down the EV path. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 7 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Yeah, only ~2M sell annually in NA, Sales are falling, manufacturers are abandoning it. 1.3 million motorcycles and scooters are sold in North America annually, but nobody be stupid enough to suggest they're a replacement for cars or trucks About 20% of people are interested in eVS. And it's just not going to get much higher. Even the liberals have realized that they're mandatory EV sales targets were completely unattainable A small niche market are interested, and more power to them. But it's a tiny percentage of the market and it's largely been filled. The technology just isn't there and the sales prove it 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 7 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: If you weren't compelled to jump into every conversation and/or took the time to think before you type you'd realize the comments were costs incurred by auto manufacturers. For American Vehicles primarily. That's who the end consumer is for most of our production and who will pay the price. Still struggling with that whole thinking thing I guess huh? 6 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: So, now what is your point....EV sales have slowed. Okay, I get that. Do you? Cuz you seem confused They're not only shrinking but Automotive manufacturers are moving away from them. There is a niche market, there will be a need to fill that niche market and that's great, but at no point in time are ev Vehicles as we know them today Going to be replacing ice 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 11 hours ago, Reg Volk said: 2 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 7 hours ago, CdnFox said: Sales are falling, manufacturers are abandoning it. 1.3 million motorcycles and scooters are sold in North America annually, but nobody be stupid enough to suggest they're a replacement for cars or trucks About 20% of people are interested in eVS. And it's just not going to get much higher. Even the liberals have realized that they're mandatory EV sales targets were completely unattainable A small niche market are interested, and more power to them. But it's a tiny percentage of the market and it's largely been filled. The technology just isn't there and the sales prove it You're clearly oblivious.... Pull more shit out of your uneducated ass fool. NA sales have fallen but global sales are increasing, and NA manufacturers are still investing in their EV side of the businesses but at a slower pace. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 7 hours ago, CdnFox said: For American Vehicles primarily. That's who the end consumer is for most of our production and who will pay the price. Still struggling with that whole thinking thing I guess huh? You don't understand a lot do you.... American vehicles are imported and sold into Canada. The Canadian who buys the vehicle that from X manufacturer is paying for those added tariff costs the manufacturer passes on. Anything about this that's over your thick little head? 1 Quote
Legato Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 10 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Follow the bouncing ball.... The original convo is quality and costs to meet fuel regulations. Fxx starts babbling about everything, AG is talking battery plants and subsidies, and now after learning that Harper was the one who signed the Canadian gas emissions regulation that you thought was a joke you jumped to Biden's EV mandates. I'm guessing you're done with Harper's stewardship of the environment, right...? As far as Biden goes... It was the right idea but the requirements didn't meet the time frame reality of what the consumer wants and/or can afford. There's no doubt EV's will be the dominant selling vehicle in another 5 years or less. When they'll be mandated who knows, but manufacturers are and will continue down the EV path. Goalposts again. The adults are talking about the mandates imposed by the Biden and Trudeau regimes. Keep on track. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 32 minutes ago, Legato said: Goalposts again. The adults are talking about the mandates imposed by the Biden and Trudeau regimes. Keep on track. lol... your usual comeback when you realize you got nothing. It was the Harper thing that fùcked everything up for you wasn't it. Minion.... 😂 1 Quote
Legato Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: lol... your usual comeback when you realize you got nothing. It was the Harper thing that fùcked everything up for you wasn't it. Minion.... 😂 Dodge. Harper? 1 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 Just now, Legato said: Dodge. Harper? Minion... Yes Harper. Your typical anti-liberal shit didn't play well after you learned it was actually Harper who signed the regulations you said we're a joke. Minion... 1 Quote
Legato Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 11 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Minion... Yes Harper. Your typical anti-liberal shit didn't play well after you learned it was actually Harper who signed the regulations you said we're a joke. Minion... So name calling, pathetic. So Harper introduced the carbon tax in 2019 and the light duty emission regulation s in 1971. er okay. Harper also set new US standards that 50% of vehicles be zero emission by 2030. er okay. BTW Minions are fun, do try to raise above the level of the Les Misérables. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 5 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: You're clearly oblivious.... Pull more shit out of your uneducated ass fool. Is that what you're calling truth these days. But I gave you was facts and sources. They don't become untrue just because you don't like them 5 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: NA sales have fallen but global sales are increasing, and NA manufacturers are still investing in their EV side of the businesses but at a slower pace. Not really. There's a few Marcus that really didn't have products that are now getting products, thanks in large part to the Chinese. Sweden Denmark and those countries are doing a massive push to adapt them right now and offering insane incentives but other than that growth isn't particularly exciting anywhere. So nice try but hard fail. The technology just isn't there for most countries in most people 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 5 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: You don't understand a lot do you.... More than you it would seem Quote American vehicles are imported and sold into Canada. The Canadian who buys the vehicle that from X manufacturer is paying for those added tariff costs the manufacturer passes on. Anything about this that's over your thick little head? Not really. Almost all the Canadian consumption is made in Canada. We actually make more than we need in the remainder goes to the states. And there are no terrorists for vehicles made in America coming into Canada. There are terrorists from Vehicles made in Canada going into America So you're wrong two ways. And just so you know, nobody looks more like a Twat who says somebody else doesn't understand something and then goes on to prove they don't understand something. You might want to watch that in the future, twat 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 18 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: So, now what is your point....EV sales have slowed. Okay, I get that. The fact remains we'll have 2 EV battery plants up and running that will be employing people. This is a problem....why? Slowed is not the word i would use, with most of the big 5 auto makers either stopped making EV's or have slowed manufacturing them but huge amounts.... I guess your not getting it, if sales of EV have dropped dramatically more than 50 % according to one source i provided ...and I'm just brain storming here, how long do you think the people that make the batteries will be employed....or their staff reduced...making it a bad investment of( bils ) of our tax dollars....when this country has much urgent issues that could have really used those fund to keep Canadians healthy or safe. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Reg Volk Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Reg Volk Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 A Canadian explains to an American lunatic TDS-suffering anti-Trump Cultist just how DUMB it is for any American to move to Canada right now, given how crappy it is here thanks to 11 years of tyrannical communist Liberal rule. Solid gold!! 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Reg Volk Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Reg Volk Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 Who in their right mind would want to hear anything this dipshit has to say? Who would PAY to hear anything this dipshit has to say? Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Army Guy Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 20 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Follow the bouncing ball.... The original convo is quality and costs to meet fuel regulations. Fxx starts babbling about everything, AG is talking battery plants and subsidies, and now after learning that Harper was the one who signed the Canadian gas emissions regulation that you thought was a joke you jumped to Biden's EV mandates. I'm guessing you're done with Harper's stewardship of the environment, right...? As far as Biden goes... It was the right idea but the requirements didn't meet the time frame reality of what the consumer wants and/or can afford. There's no doubt EV's will be the dominant selling vehicle in another 5 years or less. When they'll be mandated who knows, but manufacturers are and will continue down the EV path. There is lots of doubt, consumer doubt ....why is it EV sales tanked by 50 %, or other ev companies writes off 27 bil in debt in the EV market....this is not a North American issue this is globally...And now your stating EV will be the dominant vehicles sold in just 5 years...maybe you have a source for that ? Manufactures may be going down that path, but there are lots of paths....EV is one of them...but no where near at the pace they are sell Fossil fuel vehicles... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
I am Groot Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 I have no idea what justification was made to spend federal tax dollars to build a mosque in the Northwest Territories. I've never heard of them giving money to build a Catholic church anywhere. Has anyone else? I presume this is vote-buying. This is from a few years ago and people are saying online that like so many other projects, the cost has actually ballooned tenfold since then. This is just one of the many, many, many, hundreds of grants given to various ethnic, religious, racial, and other groups in order to buy loyalty to the Liberal party. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
LinkSoul60 Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 18 hours ago, CdnFox said: More than you it would seem Not really. Almost all the Canadian consumption is made in Canada. We actually make more than we need in the remainder goes to the states. And there are no terrorists for vehicles made in America coming into Canada. There are terrorists from Vehicles made in Canada going into America So you're wrong two ways. And just so you know, nobody looks more like a Twat who says somebody else doesn't understand something and then goes on to prove they don't understand something. You might want to watch that in the future, twat Yes, really... Investing.com -- The share of US-manufactured passenger vehicles imported to Canada has fallen to a historic low of 36% during the first 10 months of 2025, according to Statistics Canada data. This represents a significant decline from the 49% average maintained during the previous decade, continuing a downward trend that began in the 1990s when US-made cars represented 70% of Canadian passenger vehicle imports. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 20 hours ago, Legato said: So name calling, pathetic. So Harper introduced the carbon tax in 2019 and the light duty emission regulation s in 1971. er okay. Harper also set new US standards that 50% of vehicles be zero emission by 2030. er okay. BTW Minions are fun, do try to raise above the level of the Les Misérables. No, pathetic is switching gears in a conversation to something irrelevant to the topic when the facts go against your original claims. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 18 hours ago, Army Guy said: Slowed is not the word i would use, with most of the big 5 auto makers either stopped making EV's or have slowed manufacturing them but huge amounts.... I guess your not getting it, if sales of EV have dropped dramatically more than 50 % according to one source i provided ...and I'm just brain storming here, how long do you think the people that make the batteries will be employed....or their staff reduced...making it a bad investment of( bils ) of our tax dollars....when this country has much urgent issues that could have really used those fund to keep Canadians healthy or safe. No manufacturers have not stopped making EV's. They're pivoting to producing less and/or narrowing offering of to align with demand. Those people making the battery's will be employed for as long as the company needs the labor...with lesser total EV sales meaning lesser people needed to make batteries. It only became a 'bad investment' after new US admin regulations changed the ballgame. If Trump never came along the government would have had no choice but to pivot like Canada and the EU have...but the policies intent would still in place with the same incentives offered to stimulate sales. I have trouble seeing a world that is totally electrified with the exception of North American gas guzzling emission spewing vehicles. That doesn't seem to align with how the world is evolving... Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 18 hours ago, CdnFox said: Is that what you're calling truth these days. But I gave you was facts and sources. They don't become untrue just because you don't like them Not really. There's a few Marcus that really didn't have products that are now getting products, thanks in large part to the Chinese. Sweden Denmark and those countries are doing a massive push to adapt them right now and offering insane incentives but other than that growth isn't particularly exciting anywhere. So nice try but hard fail. The technology just isn't there for most countries in most people Nothing to debate here.... A simple copy and paste would lead you to the answers and facts, which don't align with your 'not really' pulled out of the red end 'facts'. The technology just isn't there....lol There are give or take ~8M EV's on the road. Guess they're all prototypes eh Kiddo... Quote
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