Charlie Kirk shot!

[TreeBeard]

13 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yes they are.

Of the 2, you choose to side with flag burners.

Conga-rats.

There’s good people on both sides. 

[Chrissy1979]

29 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Ya, those MAGATs are pretty clever eh? 

Ammunition used to assassinate Charlie Kirk engraved with trans, antifascist messages. Suspect still at large

Wow. They didn’t even worry that would make it too obvious?

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No, it's why did GUNS ENABLE CRIMINALS to DO THIS?

They didn't.  The criminal would have been enabled one way or another. 

the problem was that he decided it was ok to kill someone who was right wing and said things.  The real question is what enabled that.  Maybe people like you?

Just now, Chrissy1979 said:

Wow. They didn’t even worry that would make it too obvious?

You think the person who did this WASN"T trying to send a clear message?  It's no different than the trrans who shot up the school the other day. This seems to be a bit of a 'trend' or copycat kind of thing. There's been a few cases of it. 

 

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

There’s good people on both sides. 

The vast majority of good people are on the Right. 

[Chrissy1979]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They didn't.  The criminal would have been enabled one way or another. 

the problem was that he decided it was ok to kill someone who was right wing and said things.  The real question is what enabled that.  Maybe people like you?

You think the person who did this WASN"T trying to send a clear message?  It's no different than the trrans who shot up the school the other day. This seems to be a bit of a 'trend' or copycat kind of thing. There's been a few cases of it. 

 

It was obviously a pro-gun nut. Just look at his T shirt.

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

A professional? Is there a school you go to where they teach debating? I know there are debating societies/clubs but I doubt Kirk got any sort of 'professional' training in debating.

Charlie didn't have a college education. He dropped out after a few weeks and started TPUSA. 

[blackbird]

16 hours ago, Shady said:

There’s more guns per capita in Canada than in the United States.

That is blatantly false.

The U.S. has 120.5 firearms per 100 people.

Canada has 34.7 firearms per 100 people, or about 1/4 the number of firearms compared with the U.S.  

quote below from Estimated number of civilian guns per capita by country - Wikipedia

United States	120.5	Americas	North America	326,474,000	393,347,000	1	1,073,743	392,273,257 Est.	[note 2]
Falkland Islands	62.1	Americas	South America	3,000	2,000	2	1,705	295
Yemen	52.8	Asia	Western Asia	28,120,000	14,859,000	2	N/A	N/A
New Caledonia	42.5	Oceania	Melanesia	270,000	115,000	2	55,000	60,000
Serbia	39.1	Europe	Southern Europe	6,946,000	2,719,000	2	1,186,086	1,532,914
Montenegro	39.1	Europe	Southern Europe	626,000	245,000	3	103,536	141,464
Canada	34.7	Americas	North America	36,626,000	12,708,000	2	2,081,442	10,626,558
Uruguay	34.7	Americas	South America	3,457,000	1,198,000	2	605,313	592,687

[CouchPotato]

58 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No, it's why did GUNS ENABLE CRIMINALS to DO THIS?

Guns are a bunch of friggin' murder enabling jerks. That's why. They don't care about anyone but themselves. And to think it's the innocent criminals people want to lock up. 

Edited September 11, 2025 by CouchPotato

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

It was obviously a pro-gun nut. Just look at his T shirt.

They haven't caught him yet so how would you know?

Umm.....  something you want to share with the class chrissy?    Where exactly were YOU yesterday?

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Shady said:

Nobody on the right was arguing that the individuals killed in Minnesota brought it on themselves in some way.  Nobody was cheering it on.  Nobody was celebrating it.  The two sides aren't the same.

There wasn't a loud cheer from the background at Fox News when news broke that they were actually deceased, either. 

Left4rds are truly gross and I'm never gonna pretend that they're not. 

[WestCanMan]

48 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

There’s good people on both sides. 

Touche. 

But you gotta admit, the ones who cheer on violent riots, who cheer when people like Kirk are murdered, and who condone threats and harassment of political opponents, are ALL on the left. 

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That is blatantly false.

The U.S. has 120.5 firearms per 100 people.

Canada has 34.7 firearms per 100 people, or about 1/4 the number of firearms compared with the U.S.  

quote below from Estimated number of civilian guns per capita by country - Wikipedia

United States	120.5	Americas	North America	326,474,000	393,347,000	1	1,073,743	392,273,257 Est.	[note 2]
Falkland Islands	62.1	Americas	South America	3,000	2,000	2	1,705	295
Yemen	52.8	Asia	Western Asia	28,120,000	14,859,000	2	N/A	N/A
New Caledonia	42.5	Oceania	Melanesia	270,000	115,000	2	55,000	60,000
Serbia	39.1	Europe	Southern Europe	6,946,000	2,719,000	2	1,186,086	1,532,914
Montenegro	39.1	Europe	Southern Europe	626,000	245,000	3	103,536	141,464
Canada	34.7	Americas	North America	36,626,000	12,708,000	2	2,081,442	10,626,558
Uruguay	34.7	Americas	South America	3,457,000	1,198,000	2	605,313	592,687

well no. 

The Canadian figures are grossly wrong. When they brought in the gun registry back around 25 years ago they had estimates for the number of guns that were around 13 million or more (going from memory).  Suddenly a whole bunch of people didn't register their guns, only about 7 million did and it made the libs look bad so they revised the number DOWN to about half to make it look like almost all gun owners had complied and the program was a success. 

They've been lowballing ever since. 

The real number if you really do your research is probaby closer to 75 guns per 100 people. 

Which in fairness is still below the us. 

A slightly more interesting number is the percent of homes that have guns. Gun owners in the USA may own MORE guns but lets get real, you can only really use one at a time for the most part no matter what the terminator tells you  

IN canada about 33 percent of homes have guns while its 45 in the states (legal guns only)  is the official figure but with people who havne't complied with licensing and their license expired but their guns are still there it's actually probably closer to 38 - 40 percent. 

Still lower than the us but it does give the idea that it's not as much of a difference as you might think. 

 

[Chrissy1979]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They haven't caught him yet so how would you know?

Umm.....  something you want to share with the class chrissy?    Where exactly were YOU yesterday?

 

There’s a picture of the suspect wearing a shirt with a picture of a gun on the U.S. flag. Looks pretty MAGA to me.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

It seems Kirk was never bothered by what might, or might not, be factual. 
 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk#Political_positions_and_activities

 

Promotion of falsehoods and conspiracy theories

External videos
Charlie Kirk ~ The Conservative Forum ~ 9-8-2015 on YouTube (Liberty Forum of Silicon Valley) (at 2:10–3:20)

 

Wow, dummy.

FYI it's impossible for Kirk to have spoken for hours at a time, hundreds of days a year, for years on end, without uttering a single statement which turned out to be incorrect.

And he was at a podium speaking from memory that whole time, on topics that other people brought up.

And you're trying to hold him to a standard of 100.0% accuracy in every word of every sentence? 😂 

Now do CNN, Treebeard.

Then do CBC.

Then do Fauci.

Do Trudeau. 

Buddy, your list is tiny compared to Carney's list from 2025 alone. Carney told several DIRECT lies and fabrications of which he was 100% aware, not just things that he was wrong about, or that he got from questionable sources. He knew that he was lying, and you forgive him. he was elected PMOC based on a string of lies, and that meets your standards. This isn't a topic for you to engage in with any credibility. 

Kirk is almost 100% accurate by comparison to what YOU consider valuable news and medical information sources. 

[User]

3 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

There’s a picture of the suspect wearing a shirt with a picture of a gun on the U.S. flag. Looks pretty MAGA to me.

People like you are not here for anything other than to shit all over the place. 

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Wow. They didn’t even worry that would make it too obvious?

Why would they care if they want to send a message?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

No, it's why did GUNS ENABLE CRIMINALS to DO THIS?

Guns don't enable criminals to kill people, because criminals without access to guns still have the ability to kill people. Lots of them.

FYI if the assassin used a truck or bomb to attack Kirk, he wouldn't have just killed Kirk, he woulda killed dozens of people, and some of them would have been left4rds, because they do show up at his events. 

And CNN woulda called it another "50-person car crash".  

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, West said:

Wrong. 

Democrats are always trying to silence people whether by using whistles, attacking their employment or in this case SHOOTING A MAN IN THE NECK. 

No, YOU'RE WRONG.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

There’s a picture of the suspect wearing a shirt with a picture of a gun on the U.S. flag. Looks pretty MAGA to me.

A suspect is a suspect.  And the shirt doesn't appear to have a gun at all. 

And apperently the gun used was an old mauser bolt action rifle. So the typical hunting rifle.  And it was covered with trans and antifa writings.  Same as the trans shooter at the school recently. 

Doesn't sound like much of a gun nut if he's using 1900's tech hunting rifles and off the shelf ammo.  And then scribbled trans and antifacist crap all over it. 

Well it only took you a short time to start lying to try to defend a murderer by deflecting blame again.  Not surprising I should have guessed you'd side with the murderer. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

Ya, those MAGATs are pretty clever eh? 

Ammunition used to assassinate Charlie Kirk engraved with trans, antifascist messages. Suspect still at large

Too bad you have ZERO EVIDENCE for ^this. How many "messages" can you put on ONE BULLET. LMAO

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Same as the US president and our prime minister.

I agree with him on that one. It's not a conspiracy theory, though. Nobody thinks there's some organized cabal behind it.

As for what else he might have said, you can find a thousand politicians as dishonest - on both sides.

 

NO ONE is as DISHONEST as the PATHOLOGICAL LIAR Trump, NOR the $800M LIBELER FOS LIES.

[robosmith]

35 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

Guns are a bunch of friggin' murder enabling jerks. That's why. They don't care about anyone but themselves. And to think it's the innocent criminals people want to lock up. 

GUNS are a TOOL very PRONE to MISUSE. Duh

[West]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

NO ONE is as DISHONEST as the PATHOLOGICAL LIAR Trump, NOR the $800M LIBELER FOS LIES.

All a load of nonsense. 

[robosmith]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Guns don't enable criminals to kill people, because criminals without access to guns still have the ability to kill people. Lots of them.

FYI if the assassin used a truck or bomb to attack Kirk, he wouldn't have just killed Kirk, he woulda killed dozens of people, and some of them would have been left4rds, because they do show up at his events. 

And CNN woulda called it another "50-person car crash".  

Like ATOMIC BOMBS, there are tools more effective and less effective at KILLING. Duh

Guns are the TOOL of CHOICE for the vast majority of mass and long range KILLING HERE.

Just now, West said:

All a load of nonsense. 

Which you cannot refute.

[User]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

GUNS are a TOOL very PRONE to MISUSE. Duh

Not really. Some 80+ million adults own some 300+ million firearms in this country. Not much misuse of them at all compared to that.