Why should we hate Nazis?

[Moonbox]

On 8/30/2025 at 3:59 PM, I am Groot said:

No, we're still at "this not Christian law and never has been". 

So no women were ever burned by the Church for witchcraft etc?  Your logic is as mixed up as your facts. 

On 8/30/2025 at 3:59 PM, I am Groot said:

How else do you speak of a group?

You can speak about them all you want, but a brief moment of objective reasoning would suggest that the larger the population size, the more ridiculous it is to generalize about them in all but the broadest terms.  

On 8/30/2025 at 3:59 PM, I am Groot said:

And if this globe-spanning group varies so much, how come, with the exception of old Yugoslavia, they all hate Jews?

Because they don't.  As I've said, you've done almost literally no critical reasoning on this topic, with your prejudices informing your opinion and nothing but.  With all of the nattering you do about Jew-hating and anti-Semitism it's crazy that you don't see how utterly ridiculous you make yourself look with your overt and persistent bigotry and ignorance about Muslims.   

On 8/30/2025 at 3:59 PM, I am Groot said:

Why? It's an indication of the mindset, of the offhand cruelty and ruthlessness, of the social backwardness in their laws and societies.

It's a gauge of your ignorance.  For all of this talk about stoning and whatnot surely you have some idea about how frequent and widespread it is?  After all, according to you all Muslims support stoning people for adultery.  It must happen all of the time then, right?  🙄

[taxme]

On 8/8/2025 at 7:11 AM, I am Groot said:

All my life, the Nazis have been held up as the worst of humanity, and all of society has known to be very hostile to them and their ideas. And no group was more ferociously opposed to them than the Left.

And now the Left, while still despising Nazis, embraces their ideas, retitles them, and pat themselves on their collective backs as good, moral people. It's been both fascinating and sad to watch how easily manipulated people are.

Nazis, first and foremost, are known as people who hate Jews. That's why the Jews are the canaries in the coal mine.  You have a pretty good idea that if people hate Jews, they're not people you want having any power. And now the Left hates Jews. Yeah, yeah, you call them 'zionists' which just means people who believe in a Jewish homeland. But that's almost all Jews. So you hate Jews. Jews don't get invited to the parties of their liberal 'friends' anymore because they're now out of fashion. Jews get sneered at and mocked openly at schools and universities under the approving smiles of professors and administrators. Jews get thrown out of restaurants, "We don't serve your kind!". Groups of zealots paint swastikas and stars of David on Jewish stores and businesses, and demand people boycott them. Groups of zealots march in the streets every single day, shouting death to "zionists' and how they will destroy the Jew homeland and how they need to cleanse all institutions of Jew influence.

And the governments at all levels smile tolerantly.

So what else are we not supposed to like about Nazis? They don't like LGBT types. But so what? Muslims don't like LGBT types either and the Left doesn't care a whit. They adore Muslims. The Nazis want to take government control of almost everything? So does the Left. The Nazis don't tolerate opposition? Neither does the Left. The Left are so self-assured that every single thing they do is for the greater good that anyone who disagrees must be evil and is not someone to be listened to or allowed to speak.

Someone tell me why we're supposed to beware of Nazis again. Because the Germans killed a bunch of people? So have the Communists, and the Left doesn't mind them at all.

So what have you got? 

 

I see Nazi's-Nazi's everywhere. Ha-ha. Why there are 6 Nazi's right now in front of me sitting down on a bench playing cards in my local park. They do not scare me at all. It's not the Nazi's that scare me, it is the Marxist lieberal globalists that scare me the most. They have been running this country for decades now and look at what they gave us and have done to Canada..

A Crime wave, a massive 3rd world immigration invasion, attacks on freedom of speech, freezing innocent peoples credit and bank account cards and a climate crisis bullshit that does not exist just to mention but a few things. Anyone who calls themselves conservative these days are seen as being nothing more than a bunch of Nazi's. For the few Nazi's being around, you should not be getting all your lefty lieberal pink undies all wet for nothing lieberals. 😂😂

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, Moonbox said:

So no women were ever burned by the Church for witchcraft etc?  Your logic is as mixed up as your facts. 

Centuries ago, though that is based on a mistranslation. Muslims have burned women alive this century. Perhaps you see the difference? Or perhaps you don't care.

5 hours ago, Moonbox said:

You can speak about them all you want, but a brief moment of objective reasoning would suggest that the larger the population size, the more ridiculous it is to generalize about them in all but the broadest terms.  

Which is what I"m doing.

5 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Because they don't.  As I've said, you've done almost literally no critical reasoning on this topic,

What Muslim countries don't hate Jews? None in the Middle East, that's for sure. Not Pakistan or Bangladesh. None in North Africa. Indonesia? Nope, they don't like Jews. Not Malaysia. They hate Jews. 

5 hours ago, Moonbox said:

with your prejudices informing your opinion and nothing but. 

What prejudices? Prejudice suggests pre-judging. I'm not pre-judging Islam. My views on Islam are based on the actions of Muslims over the past twenty-five-odd years, and what I have heard fairly reasonable people like Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and Douglas Murray tell me about this religion. All of those guys are atheists, btw. So they don't have a boat in the race. They're not big fans of any religion.

5 hours ago, Moonbox said:

With all of the nattering you do about Jew-hating and anti-Semitism it's crazy that you don't see how utterly ridiculous you make yourself look with your overt and persistent bigotry and ignorance about Muslims.   

How much do YOU know about Islam and the Muslim world? Because I gotta tell you, you come across as incredibly ignorant, as virtually knowledge-free. Bigotry towards Jews is based on who they are. My dislike of Islam and Muslims is based on what they do. You don't get the difference?

[Moonbox]

17 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Centuries ago, though that is based on a mistranslation. Muslims have burned women alive this century. Perhaps you see the difference? Or perhaps you don't care.

The difference in timing doesn't change that you were categorically wrong that it was never part of Christian "Law".  Clearly there wasn't anything inherent in Christianity that stopped it.  

17 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Which is what I'm doing.

Except not at all.  You're being very specific in your claims.  

17 hours ago, I am Groot said:

What prejudices? Prejudice suggests pre-judging. I'm not pre-judging Islam.

Except you don't seem to know anything about it.

18 hours ago, I am Groot said:

and what I have heard fairly reasonable people like Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and Douglas Murray tell me about this religion. All of those guys are atheists, btw.

A trifecta of pseudo-intellectual edgelords, performing and saying provocative things for their audience and to get invited on the talkshows or Joe Rogan.  Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this list suggests you're the type to be impressed by the likes of Jordan Peterson as well.  🙄

18 hours ago, I am Groot said:

How much do YOU know about Islam and the Muslim world? Because I gotta tell you, you come across as incredibly ignorant, as virtually knowledge-free.

It was a pretty simple question.  If the Islamic world so widely believes in stoning women for adultery, and there are over a billion Muslim women, you should be able to provide plenty of evidence of stonings across the Islamic world.  Where is it?  I already know the answer.  I think you do too, and that's why you won't answer.    

[CDN1]

46 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

The difference in timing doesn't change that you were categorically wrong that it was never part of Christian "Law".  Clearly there wasn't anything inherent in Christianity that stopped it.  

Except not at all.  You're being very specific in your claims.  

Except you don't seem to know anything about it.

A trifecta of pseudo-intellectual edgelords, performing and saying provocative things for their audience and to get invited on the talkshows or Joe Rogan.  Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this list suggests you're the type to be impressed by the likes of Jordan Peterson as well.  🙄

It was a pretty simple question.  If the Islamic world so widely believes in stoning women for adultery, and there are over a billion Muslim women, you should be able to provide plenty of evidence of stonings across the Islamic world.  Where is it?  I already know the answer.  I think you do too, and that's why you won't answer.    

All of them are far more educated, persuasive thinkers than your dumbass takes. Put up or shut up.

How old do you think those 72 virgins are? 9 years old like their prophet's wife, Aisha. It's a literal pedo death cult that believes terrorist martyrs are rewarded with a harem of little girls to use as they please.

As soon as America left Afghanistan & Iraq, child marriages were reinstated for 50-60+ year old men to breed like dutiful cattle.

If Christians started acting like Muslims you'd all be crying fascist nazis, but hey...you're already doing that. 

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2025 by CDN1

[Moonbox]

Another bozo for the ignore list.  

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

It was a pretty simple question.  If the Islamic world so widely believes in stoning women for adultery, and there are over a billion Muslim women, you should be able to provide plenty of evidence of stonings across the Islamic world.  Where is it?  I already know the answer.  I think you do too, and that's why you won't answer.    

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2024/05/08/1242306960/taliban-affirms-that-stoning-will-be-punishment-for-adulterers-especially-women

 

[taxme]

55 minutes ago, CDN1 said:

All of them are far more educated, persuasive thinkers than your dumbass takes. Put up or shut up.

How old do you think those 72 virgins are? 9 years old like their prophet's wife, Aisha. It's a literal pedo death cult that believes terrorist martyrs are rewarded with a harem of little girls to use as they please.

As soon as America left Afghanistan & Iraq, child marriages were reinstated for 50-60+ year old men to breed like dutiful cattle.

If Christians started acting like Muslims you'd all be crying fascist nazis, but hey...you're already doing that. 

 

 

 

FYI. There have been hundreds of reported rapes in Europe since Muslims have been allowed to enter Europe by the millions where Muslim men now go around raping European women because they are not totally covered up. They think that it is open season on European women. The aim of Islam in Europe is to get our white women to have to cover up and be forced to have to wear black body bag garments.

Why these Muslim bunch of ingrates want to come to Europe and then want to bring their foreign backwards culture with them is beyond me. Why do they come here and not want to assimilate? There are plenty of other Muslim countries to go too.

Trump is the only world leader in the western world that is putting a stop to all of this massive Muslim invasion immigration and their anti-white hatred towards white women. It is our own white political leaders that are behind all of this massive 3rd world invasion into white western countries. Our white politicians have become traitors and have committed treason against their own white people. Just my opinion of course. 

Maybe it is time for Christians to start crying fascist Nazi lieberals. Long overdue indeed. 

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

It was a pretty simple question.  If the Islamic world so widely believes in stoning women for adultery, and there are over a billion Muslim women, you should be able to provide plenty of evidence of stonings across the Islamic world.  Where is it?  I already know the answer.  I think you do too, and that's why you won't answer.    

plenty of Muslim countries practice stoning as punishment for many different crimes...

https://theweek.com/news/crime/957354/the-countries-where-men-women-can-be-stoned-to-death

 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Another bozo for the ignore list.  

Boy the number of people who scare you into hiding from them grows every day doesn't it   

[Moonbox]

18 hours ago, Army Guy said:

plenty of Muslim countries practice stoning as punishment for many different crimes...

https://theweek.com/news/crime/957354/the-countries-where-men-women-can-be-stoned-to-death

Never said it didn't happen, did I?  What do you figure you're answering here?  

The question, again, is how prevalent and widespread it is?  How often are women stoned in the Islamic world.  Again, if Islam is all for stoning women for adultery, you should be able to cite some statistics pretty easily, and not need to cite Iran as far back as 1992, or the freaking Taliban, who I doubt anyone here would ever in a million years defend.  

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Boy the number of people who scare you into hiding from them grows every day doesn't it   

Just another sign of your inferiority.  For all your efforts, you're still not on the list. 

Btw, why are you following me no-life? 🤡

[CouchPotato]

20 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Another bozo for the ignore list.  

If you can't beat em', ignore 'em.

[Moonbox]

13 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

If you can't beat em', ignore 'em.

There's a saying about id*ots and not arguing with them.  Maybe you've heard of it?  🤡

[CouchPotato]

Just now, Moonbox said:

There's a saying about id*ots and not arguing with them.  Maybe you've heard of it?  🤡

Well now that I have, I won't argue with you anymore.

[Moonbox]

Just now, CouchPotato said:

Well now that I have, I won't argue with you anymore.

Because you're too scared of me, r-right?  🤣

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Just another sign of your inferiority.  For all your efforts, you're still not on the list. 

 

OF course not, if you stopped obsessing about me there'd be no reason for you to be here  

Hey, whatever makes you feel better about running and hiding  

[Moonbox]

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

OF course not, if you stopped obsessing about me there'd be no reason for you to be here  

...and yet here I was, participating happily without you. 

Have a great weekend all by yourself, arguing with strangers on the internet.  🙃

[User]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Boy the number of people who scare you into hiding from them grows every day doesn't it   

Common theme from the leftists on here. I am surprised they don't all just run away to Bluesky, where they can preach to the choir of leftists there. 

 

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Never said it didn't happen, did I?  What do you figure you're answering here?  

The question, again, is how prevalent and widespread it is?  How often are women stoned in the Islamic world.  Again, if Islam is all for stoning women for adultery, you should be able to cite some statistics pretty easily, and not need to cite Iran as far back as 1992, or the freaking Taliban, who I doubt anyone here would ever in a million years defend.  

Just another sign of your inferiority.  For all your efforts, you're still not on the list. 

Btw, why are you following me no-life? 🤡

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n May, The Sun obtained classified records which revealed that Iran had sentenced 51 people to death by stoning for adultery, including 23 women.

The above happen in 2022, not 1992 so i guess it is prevalent in Iran and Afghanistan, but my source also list many other countries that still have these laws on their books. And you did say Muslim  countries which Iran , Afghanistan  and the rest of the countries in my source are...perhaps you should have out in a exclusion clause. 

[CdnFox]

23 hours ago, Moonbox said:

...and yet here I was, participating happily without you. 

 

LOL nothing you've ever posted here has ever suggested you're 'happy' at all   You mean you were participating miserably without me  

 

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Have a great weekend all by yourself, arguing with strangers on the internet.  🙃

Awww muffin  You're projecting again  

How's those math lessons going? 

[I am Groot]

On 9/4/2025 at 1:38 PM, Moonbox said:

The difference in timing doesn't change that you were categorically wrong that it was never part of Christian "Law".  Clearly there wasn't anything inherent in Christianity that stopped it.  

What the hell is the point you're trying to make? There has never been a country ruled by "Christian Law'. Most of the biblical rules and laws have only ever applied to clerics. But hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world today believe in living under Sharia law, including the majority of people in countries like Pakistan, which sends a lot of people here as immigrants.

On 9/4/2025 at 1:38 PM, Moonbox said:

Except you don't seem to know anything about it.

Your desperate defense of Islam suggests you know NOTHING about it, nothing about the Muslim world, nothing about the nature of Islamists, nor care.

In other words, a typical smug liberal hand-waving away concerns about Islam because you assume that, like you, most Muslims don't really pay much attention to their religion.

On 9/4/2025 at 1:38 PM, Moonbox said:

A trifecta of pseudo-intellectual edgelords, performing and saying provocative things for their audience and to get invited on the talkshows or Joe Rogan.  Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this list suggests you're the type to be impressed by the likes of Jordan Peterson as well.  🙄

Well, of course, none of them are in your league, oh mighty thinker.
Would you like to compare your education and accomplishments with theirs? For example, how many times have you been to the Muslim world? When was the last time you were in Israel? In Gaza? In Iraq? In Syria? How many times have you interviewed Muslim immigrants flooding across the Mediterranean or the Bosphorus Strait? Have you spoken to world leaders, including Netanyahu? How many world bestselling books have you written?  That's just Murray. No need to even get into the rest.

On 9/4/2025 at 1:38 PM, Moonbox said:

It was a pretty simple question.  If the Islamic world so widely believes in stoning women for adultery, and there are over a billion Muslim women, you should be able to provide plenty of evidence of stonings across the Islamic world.  Where is it? 

You act like those countries keep careful records of such things. But you know they don't. That's why you demand an answer. You also know that stonings is only a fractional part of Sharia law. How many women have been murdered, tortured to death in Iran alone for not wearing a stupid piece of cloth on their heads? 

[Moonbox]

On 9/6/2025 at 4:04 PM, I am Groot said:

What the hell is the point you're trying to make? There has never been a country ruled by "Christian Law'.

Except for the hundreds of years that Catholic canon law formed the framework of European law, and how the various monarchies based their authority on the Biblical/Divine Right of Kings?  

Sorry, but your facts are as mixed up and cherry-picked as your reasoning.    

On 9/6/2025 at 4:04 PM, I am Groot said:

Your desperate defense of Islam suggests you know NOTHING about it, nothing about the Muslim world, nothing about the nature of Islamists, nor care.

In other words, a typical smug liberal hand-waving away concerns about Islam because you assume that, like you, most Muslims don't really pay much attention to their religion.

Well which one is it?  Am I "desperate", or am I "smug"?  Am I both at the same time? 🙄

I don't need to be an expert on Islam to point out how obviously uninformed you are on the topic, and how nonsensical your generalizations are.  

On 9/6/2025 at 4:04 PM, I am Groot said:

Well, of course, none of them are in your league, oh mighty thinker.
Would you like to compare your education and accomplishments with theirs? For example, how many times have you been to the Muslim world? When was the last time you were in Israel? In Gaza? In Iraq? In Syria? How many times have you interviewed Muslim immigrants flooding across the Mediterranean or the Bosphorus Strait? Have you spoken to world leaders, including Netanyahu? How many world bestselling books have you written?  That's just Murray. No need to even get into the rest.

If being a best-selling author makes you an intellectual, let me introduce you to the brilliance of Donald J. Trump.  😆

The worst part about all of this though is that you're literally, with a straight face, trying to tell me that you've informed yourself on Islam from Douglas freaking Murray, board member of the Israeli funded NGO Monitor, who you've also been citing on this forum.  If there was any question of what came first between your opinion on Islam and any actual knowledge of it, it's this:  

 

 

International Advisory Board:

 

 

 

 

[Moonbox]

On 9/5/2025 at 4:21 PM, Army Guy said:

The above happen in 2022, not 1992 so i guess it is prevalent in Iran and Afghanistan, but my source also list many other countries that still have these laws on their books. And you did say Muslim  countries which Iran , Afghanistan  and the rest of the countries in my source are...perhaps you should have out in a exclusion clause. 

Again, you need to read what I am actually saying.  I never said it didn't happen, did I?

I asked how often it happens and how widely it occurs.  Your own source tells us how uncommon it is, and how rarely it's cited in a world with 50 Muslim-majority countries and 2 billion adherents. 

[Venandi]

On 9/4/2025 at 2:38 PM, Moonbox said:

you should be able to provide plenty of evidence of stonings across the Islamic world.  Where is it? 

In the west, any available statistics are typically captured under the heading of "honour killings,"

In general, use of the term "stoning" should probably be considered analogous here... especially in the west because it's more hidden. By that I mean villages don't gather on a Saturday night for stonings in Canada. When it happens it's a bit more subtle and difficult to characterize as such.

As immigration patterns have changed you see honour killings showing up in countries were they never existed before and in sufficient number to be concerning. It seems to me that the statistics are a bit murky in assigning it as a cause though and I suspect many just fall into the category of (I'll call them) "standard murders". By way of example, In Norway between 2000-2022 there were 24 murders that were confirmed as honour killings, in Sweden (in 2016 alone) ten of the 105 murder cases were confirmed to be honour killings and the UK runs at about 12 per year.

That doesn't mean there wasn't more though because looking at raw data doesn't tell the whole story. Honour related crimes can also include such things as torture, forced suicide, forced marriages, rapes assaults etc. 

In short, and IMO of course, it's a difficult thing to get a solid handle on. 

So there ya go... I'm not going to enter the fray with you over this or defend one side over the other I just wanted to point out that the whole thing is a bit more nuanced than some might think.

Personally, my fear is that this sort of thing won't even be seen as a problem until statistical awareness of it increases and people realize that the issue itself extends beyond simple (and sarcastic) references to "stoning."

 

Edited September 10, 2025 by Venandi

[Army Guy]

20 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Again, you need to read what I am actually saying.  I never said it didn't happen, did I?

I asked how often it happens and how widely it occurs.  Your own source tells us how uncommon it is, and how rarely it's cited in a world with 50 Muslim-majority countries and 2 billion adherents. 

I'm not going to argue with you on what your definition of common or uncommon is, the fact remains there are Muslim countries that still stone people to death, in Iran case some 50 in one day, and in Afghanistan who knows but it still happens, and many more that still have that law on their books as a punishment...And if your trying to point out that Muslims are these kind and wonderful people your wrong....every Muslim sh!t hole I've been to have been on the crazy side on the crazy train....going to crazy town...life means squat to these people...

 

Edited September 10, 2025 by Army Guy