US Manufacturing is coming back! Trump destroy critics!

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

First entry in the google search

l. du·ties

3. A tax charged by a government, especially on imports

 

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition 

 

But it's a tariff not a duty, You said so  

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I almost feel bad because I know you’re an impotent, lonely old loser who is easily manipulated by internet algorithms.

LOL it's always the case that when someone on the left on this forum loses an argument they start having freekish fantasies about me and start spending their time daydreaming about me. 

Kid, i don't think about you at all  

Anyway, no trump didn't raise taxes "across the board", no not "Every dictionary out there" thinks tariffs are taxes,  Yes trump is massively more conservative than Kammy and it was silly of you to pretend otherwise, yes, it's creepy that you're having weird fantasies about me and my life but i guess i can't stop you, it's not like you've got REAL friends, and yes, you're a twat and a loser   

Trump is sticking up for his people, he believes the tariffs will bring back manufacturing another jobs over time and lead to prosperity. As I have said many times I don't see that as being likely but time will tell and it's far too soon to know. 

But it is precious to hear you whimper and cry about it  

 

[Chrissy1979]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But it's a tariff not a duty, You said so  

LOL it's always the case that when someone on the left on this forum loses an argument they start having freekish fantasies about me and start spending their time daydreaming about me. 

Kid, i don't think about you at all  

Anyway, no trump didn't raise taxes "across the board", no not "Every dictionary out there" thinks tariffs are taxes,  Yes trump is massively more conservative than Kammy and it was silly of you to pretend otherwise, yes, it's creepy that you're having weird fantasies about me and my life but i guess i can't stop you, it's not like you've got REAL friends, and yes, you're a twat and a loser   

Trump is sticking up for his people, he believes the tariffs will bring back manufacturing another jobs over time and lead to prosperity. As I have said many times I don't see that as being likely but time will tell and it's far too soon to know. 

But it is precious to hear you whimper and cry about it  

 

Find a dictionary that doesn’t define a tariff as a form of taxation. I already showed you that defining it as a duty is defining it as s tax. Hou lose…as always.

And they are sweeping tariffs that will raise the price of consumer goods. That means everybody pays more money to enrich the government coffers. That’s a broad tax increase. Suck it up.

Snd if he really wanted to increase manufacturing jobs, he would give companies years of warning before implementing them so they can adjust and not just go out of business because of the chaotic economic environment. Do you think randomly adding and removing tariffs is helping the auto industry? Again, no wonder you’re a Trump supporter. You have  no clue.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Find a dictionary that doesn’t define a tariff as a form of taxatio

I literally posted one already above, and it was the first in the google search. The definition doesn't mention taxation at all 😮 

"FIND ME THE THING YOU ALREADY FOUND AND POSTED!"  LOLOL 

Sorry loser.  Trump's doing great and it's pissing you off    

3 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Find a dictionary that doesn’t define a tariff as a form of taxation. I already showed you that defining it as a duty is defining it as s tax. Hou lose…as always.

And they are sweeping tariffs that will raise the price of consumer goods. That means everybody pays more money to enrich the government coffers. That’s a broad tax increase. Suck it up.

Snd if he really wanted to increase manufacturing jobs, he would give companies years of warning before implementing them so they can adjust and not just go out of business because of the chaotic economic environment. Do you think randomly adding and removing tariffs is helping the auto industry? Again, no wonder you’re a Trump supporter. You have  no clue.

That's a lot of words to say you're wrong.   

[Chrissy1979]

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I literally posted one already above, and it was the first in the google search. The definition doesn't mention taxation at all 😮 

"FIND ME THE THING YOU ALREADY FOUND AND POSTED!"  LOLOL 

Sorry loser.  Trump's doing great and it's pissing you off    

That's a lot of words to say you're wrong.   

I can’t believe even you don’t understand that defining a tariff as a duty, which is defined as a tax, means a tariff is defined as a tax. You’re just one of those guys who loses so much he has grown used to denying reality so he can not feel like such a loser. 😆 

[Nationalist]

11 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I can’t believe even you don’t understand that defining a tariff as a duty, which is defined as a tax, means a tariff is defined as a tax. You’re just one of those guys who loses so much he has grown used to denying reality so he can not feel like such a loser. 😆 

Hi Chrissy Baby.

Hun...degrading people does not prove squat. Your tariff duty tax argument is a bit of a stretch.

[Chrissy1979]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Hi Chrissy Baby.

Hun...degrading people does not prove squat. Your tariff duty tax argument is a bit of a stretch.

It’s only a stretch if you don’t know how words work. 

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I can’t believe even you don’t understand that defining a tariff as a duty, 

You can't believe you got caught in your lie.    Which is weird because you always do!

You lied now you cried  Awww little chrissy, poor thing  

Trump's doing great, the dems are in the shitter.  That's what you get little girl!

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

It’s only a stretch if you don’t know how words work. 

How words work?

Chrissy...Baby...when you have to make word-salad in order to make an argument, your argument is likey bullshit.

As it is in this case.

Piece of advice...word-salads are quite Kamala-esque and really only embarass you...

And any Libbies trying the same dumb sh1t.

[eyeball]

40 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

...when you have to make word-salad in order to make an argument, your argument is likey bullshit.

Why do you feel compelled to deny pretend or suggest Trump's tariff duty tax doesn't come out of Americans pockets and go into the governments to simply stick it to a libbie?

You need to get out more often.

[Chrissy1979]

Tariffs are duties, which are taxes. Crazy word salad. Cadillacs are cars and they are GM vehicles too. That must blow your mind.

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Why do you feel compelled to deny pretend or suggest Trump's tariff duty tax doesn't come out of Americans pockets and go into the governments to simply stick it to a libbie?

You need to get out more often.

Well it's simple. Tariffs, duties and taxes are different things.

And...nobody wants to stick it to Libbies. That might make more Libbies.

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Well it's simple. Tariffs, duties and taxes are different things.

Sure and they're represented by different things defined as money, cash or moolah.

And America's federal government collect these from who's citizens again?

At this point they simply call it revenue. Apparently it's making everyone rich. I think it was even a promise.

[LinkSoul60]

9 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Stellantis operates three manufacturing facilities in Ontario, Canada: Brampton Assembly, Etobicoke Casting, and Windsor Assembly. The Brampton and Windsor plants are assembly plants, while the Etobicoke facility is an aluminum casting plant. Stellantis is also investing in a new electric vehicle battery plant in Windsor. Quite literally across the lake.

With higher tariff it does not make sense to manufacture in Illinois because you would have to pay tariff every time a component crosses the border. Why not just make it in one country and pay the taxes once. 
 

You struggle with geography....  Brampton or Etobicoke are not 'quite literally across the lake' from Windsor, they're a ~3 hour drive on the 401.  Across the lake is New York.

So, in whatever you're trying to rationalize you're agruing against that your own thread title 'US Manufacturing is coming back! Trump destroy critics!'. Well done...

And for what it's worth, vehicle components cross the Can/US/Mex borders in some cases multiple times before the final assembly.  

[LinkSoul60]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Trump is sticking up for his people, he believes the tariffs will bring back manufacturing another jobs over time and lead to prosperity.

Reading through this thread and laughing at you. You're really that oblivious to tariffs.... wow, and naturally have to resort to being an angry little man when you're getting schooled. 

Couldn't help but notice this comment of yours....  Am I to guess you'd say that if Poilievre was PM we'd be the only country to have negotiated no tariffs with Trump?  

Too funny...  you're complimentary of Trump and his goal but blame Carney for everything Trump.  Just a partisan hack....

[paxamericana]

30 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Well done...

Wait and see, Trump is squeezing Mexico and Canada. He wants to have more manufacturing inside the United States. Obviously longterm manufacturing will move to where it is lowest cost. 

[LinkSoul60]

1 minute ago, paxamericana said:

Wait and see, Trump is squeezing Mexico and Canada. He wants to have more manufacturing inside the United States. Obviously longterm manufacturing will move to where it is lowest cost. 

'Obviously longterm manufacturing will move to where it is lowest cost'....  You're catching on. Well done...

[paxamericana]

8 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

lowest cost'

meaning with tariff.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Why do you feel compelled to deny pretend or suggest Trump's tariff duty tax doesn't come out of Americans pockets and go into the governments to simply stick it to a libbie?

You need to get out more often.

Why do you feel compelled to pretend people said something they didn't just to stick it to a rightie?

You need to visit earth more often. 

 

[Chrissy1979]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well it's simple. Tariffs, duties and taxes are different things.

You guys don’t get embarrassed doubling down on your stupidity? You don’t think, now that Trump has taken to nationalizing private companies and trying to destroy Canada, that you might have backed the wrong horse? 😆 

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You guys don’t get embarrassed doubling down on your stupidity? You don’t think, now that Trump has taken to nationalizing private companies and trying to destroy Canada, that you might have backed the wrong horse? 😆 

Nationalize what companies?

Trump is trying to destroy Canada? Do tell?

[Aristides]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well it's simple. Tariffs, duties and taxes are different things.

 

All of them are taking money out of consumer and business pockets and sending it to government. 

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Reading through this thread and laughing at you.

Kid, every time you say that we know you've been crying  

 

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You're really that oblivious to tariffs.... wow, and naturally have to resort to being an angry little man when you're getting schooled. 

Said the angry little man who's crying about getting schooled  

Every accusation is a confession for you isn't it  

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Couldn't help but notice this comment of yours....  Am I to guess you'd say that if Poilievre was PM we'd be the only country to have negotiated no tariffs with Trump?  

No, that's stupid. And it's especially stupid to claim you're getting that from that comment   But there's little doubt he would have forced trump back to the table and worked out something better than what we've got now, what we've got now is set to wipe out 20 percent or more of our small businesses within the next few months. 

At the VERY least you have to get something for what you're giving up.  Everybody who's got any kind of brain knows this.  If all you do is cave trump just pushes harder, thinking he can get more out of you.  Which is precisely what's happened. 

In the end carney is doing badly and you're big mad about it, and you desperately want it to somehow be my fault which seems to be a common theme on the left:  if things are bad it's because of the OTHER guys, not us!!!!

There's nothing this guy could do that would make you stop defending him is there. You guys were sticking up for justin till the last year so it's no real surprise i guess.  Cultists gonna cult. 

 

[CdnFox]

Just now, Aristides said:

All of them are taking money out of consumer and business pockets and sending it to government. 

So is user fees and royalties but they're not taxes. 

Tariffs are different in that their purpose generally isn't to raise money but to impact the economy by discouraging dumping of other products in the country which would hurt your industries or by giving your industries a competitive environment until they grow. 

Or to pressure other countries for negotiation purposes. 

So there's an effect and benefit that's beyond collecting money for services like taxes.  So the impact is different and you have to account for that.  IF more businesses wind up  investing and spending money in the US and creating jobs and industry as a result that has a strong positive impact on gov't revenues AND the job market and money in people's pockets.  Which is generally something taxes can't do 

It's not a subtle difference, it's huge.  

Of course the question remains whether it'll work. I think it's going ot hurt them in the long run and the results won't be as good as trump thinks but we'll know for sure in about a year one way or another. We should start go see some signs by the end of this year. 

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

All of them are taking money out of consumer and business pockets and sending it to government. 

Duties and tariffs are designed to protect local businesses. 

Taxes are designed to simply fund the government. 

See the stark difference?

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Duties and tariffs are designed to protect local businesses. 

Taxes are designed to simply fund the government. 

See the stark difference?

well these are the same people who can't tell the difference between a duck hunter's shotgun and an ak-47.   Or anything else and an ak 47