CdnFox Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: You don't know what defunded means? Yes it means it doesn't have any funds. Defunded. opposite of funded. Quote Here's a clue: Oh sweetie, if you ever find one of those you really need to use it for yourself, don't be giving it away Quote it doesn't necessarily mean having every penny taken away. So in other words they had a small budget reduction which didn't impact the situation but you're going to try and twist it for political purposes. Well, that certainly has been your modus operandi in the past. So at least you get points for consistency Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: ...you won't find a conservative that didnt call the J6 riot stupid and uncalled for. What about the one who called it a day of love? 2 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 25 minutes ago, eyeball said: What about the one who called it a day of love? whilst playing the Didgeridoo? Quote
CdnFox Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 3 hours ago, User said: Um, yeah, yeah we do. Based on your posts here... And the judges say...... 2.1, 2.0, 2.7 and OOOooohhh -1.5 from the russian judge, how does that even happen? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
West Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 3 hours ago, User said: Um, yeah, yeah we do. Based on your posts here... EXACTLY 💯 💯 💯 1 Quote
robosmith Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, West said: EXACTLY 💯 💯 💯 You STILL don't know what you're talking about and never will. Texas floods reveal limitations of disaster forecasting under climate crisis Quote Texas’s ‘flash flood alley’ could bring even more floods in near future as Trump cuts compound with warming climate. An NWS source confirmed to the Guardian that the forecast office in San Angelo, where the heaviest rains fell, has two current vacancies – the meteorologist-in-charge, who leads each NWS office, and the staff hydrologist, who helps make decisions about flood threats. Additionally, the NWS office in Austin/San Antonio – which has primary responsibility for Kerr county – is missing a warning coordination officer, a leadership position whose primary function is to be a decision-making point of contact for local officials and the general public, especially during dangerous weather. .... Though it’s unclear to what extent staffing shortages across the NWS complicated the advance notice that local officials had of an impending flooding disaster, it’s clear that this was a complex, compound tragedy of a type that climate warming is making more frequent. Rainfall intensity in central Texas has been trending upward for decades, and this week’s rains were enhanced by the remnants of Tropical Storm Barry, which made landfall in northern Mexico last week. Barry’s circulation pulled record amounts of atmospheric moisture up to central Texas from the near-record warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico. The mix of Barry’s circulation and climate warming helped create conditions of record-high atmospheric moisture content over central Texas – in line with the trend towards increasing atmospheric moisture content globally as the world warms and the air can hold more water vapor. Quote
robosmith Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 'No alternative funding sources': Trump's stifling of disaster aid leaves cities adrift Politico https://www.politico.com › news › 2025/06/30 › cities-l... 8 days ago — Hundreds of communities, including this old industrial city, are struggling after Trump's cancellation of $4.5 billion for local projects that helped communities prepare for rising disaster damage. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 8, 2025 Author Report Posted July 8, 2025 7 hours ago, robosmith said: You STILL don't know what you're talking about and never will. Texas floods reveal limitations of disaster forecasting under climate crisis San Angelo is NOT the forecast office for the area affected AND your article does nothing to prove that Trump funding was the issue. 12 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: @robosmith is gping to hate this. He thinks he's so smart and above all us fly over country bumpkins. But here is a rednecked fly over country bumpkin taking @robosmith to school on what really happened. @robosmith just got pwned by a Bible thumping girl from Oklahoma. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Barquentine Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Texas’s ‘flash flood alley’ could bring even more floods This was a heart-breaking tragedy. But my question is: Regardless of politics or emergency services, why would anyone build in, or live in an area called 'Flash Flood Alley' unless they had no choice? Why do people even build in river flood plains? What do insurance companies think of this? What are government policies on this? Quote
User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 42 minutes ago, Barquentine said: But my question is: Regardless of politics or emergency services, why would anyone build in, or live in an area called 'Flash Flood Alley' unless they had no choice? Why do people even build in river flood plains? What do insurance companies think of this? What are government policies on this? Because, not all flash floods are equal. The normal types of flash flooding that occur here are not anywhere near this bad. Its not like every year that river hits 30 foot flooding. This is something like a 100 year type flooding. Well, a significant part of the entire country would be in something like a river floodplain. The notion that you are just never going to live in a flood plain because maybe once in 100 years a catasrphic event will occur is a bit extreme. What about tornadoes? Hurricanes? Earthquakes? Might as well say people can't live almost anywhere... Well, insurance companies charge more and the federal government ends up picking up some of that market share too. Quote
robosmith Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: This was a heart-breaking tragedy. But my question is: Regardless of politics or emergency services, why would anyone build in, or live in an area called 'Flash Flood Alley' unless they had no choice? Why do people even build in river flood plains? What do insurance companies think of this? What are government policies on this? Since Texas is run by RepubliCONS, public safety is a very low priority, which is why we often see chemical plants blowing up and killing people there. The priority is business freedom to make money and ordinary people pay the price. 🤮 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 8, 2025 Author Report Posted July 8, 2025 15 minutes ago, robosmith said: Since Texas is run by RepubliCONS, public safety is a very low priority, which is why we often see chemical plants blowing up and killing people there. The priority is business freedom to make money and ordinary people pay the price. 🤮 @robosmith you sure run away from a lot of posts. I've posted 4 times credible, irrefutable proof that you are lying about the NWS. Instead of acknowledging you are wrong, you just jump to another lie. Chemical planta are regulated by the federal government through the EPA. Texas has the most plants due to tax and infrastructure advantages over other states. That is why they are more likely to have incidents. https://www.aiche.org/resources/publications/cep/2025/may/laws-and-regulations-governing-chemical-process-industries-us https://www.powderbulksolids.com/explosion-protection-safety/what-state-has-the-most-hazardous-chemical-plants- 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
CdnFox Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: This was a heart-breaking tragedy. But my question is: Regardless of politics or emergency services, why would anyone build in, or live in an area called 'Flash Flood Alley' unless they had no choice? Why do people even build in river flood plains? What do insurance companies think of this? What are government policies on this? I mean it's a legit question. I live in an area where there are floodplains all around me and I have often wondered why people buy there. I think part of the issue is that often in those areas the floods don't happen very often and when they do it's a quick insurance claim clean everything up and you move on with life. In some places it is hard to get insurance but that just makes the homes cheaper so you can self-insure. But every now and then just like we saw in British Columbia with the great floods in the Fraser Valley and as we have now seen in Texas, you get a hell of a doozy and it does a lot more damage than people expected. It's kind of like earthquakes, we all know ones coming but how much do you think about it every day when you're buying a property? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
TreeBeard Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 5 former directors of the National Weather Service sent an open letter a few months ago about the potentially disastrous impact of cuts by Trump. It sure came true fast. But at least your taxes are slightly lower, and rich people’s are significantly lower. NWS staff will have an impossible task to continue its current level of services. Some forecast offices will be so short-staffed that they may be forced to go to part-time services. Not only are there fewer forecasters, there are also fewer electronic technicians, who are responsible for maintaining the critical NEXRAD radars. Our worst nightmare is that weather forecast offices will be so understaffed that there will be needless loss of life. We know that’s a nightmare shared by those on the forecasting front lines — and by the people who depend on their efforts. https://www.theinvadingsea.com/2025/05/06/national-weather-service-directors-letter-noaa-trump-budget-forecasting-hurricanes-tornadoes/ 1 Quote
User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: 5 former directors of the National Weather Service sent an open letter a few months ago about the potentially disastrous impact of cuts by Trump. It sure came true fast. But at least your taxes are slightly lower, and rich people’s are significantly lower. What does that have to do with what happened here? Answer: Nothing. 1 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 9, 2025 Author Report Posted July 9, 2025 Dear God, this tragedy is just unspeakable. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted July 9, 2025 Author Report Posted July 9, 2025 (edited) Here is a great American and someone that should be a national hero along with every single Coast Guard member that was there. Edited July 9, 2025 by gatomontes99 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
TreeBeard Posted July 9, 2025 Report Posted July 9, 2025 “Years of discussion” and concern about taxes. No flood warning apparatus. Now dozens of kids are dead. well, at least taxes are low in Texas, eh? https://abcnews.go.com/US/hard-hit-texas-county-flood-warning-sirens-despite/story?id=123531823 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 9, 2025 Author Report Posted July 9, 2025 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: “Years of discussion” and concern about taxes. No flood warning apparatus. Now dozens of kids are dead. well, at least taxes are low in Texas, eh? https://abcnews.go.com/US/hard-hit-texas-county-flood-warning-sirens-despite/story?id=123531823 Or they could buy a noaa radio and be warned: https://a.co/d/hQ9Ai5s Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted July 9, 2025 Report Posted July 9, 2025 (edited) CLEARLY DOGE CUTS PLAYED A ROLE in HUNDREDS of DEATHS in TEXAS FLOODS and yes Trump was RESPONSIBLE for DOGE firings because Musk had NO AUTHORITY without Trump's ORDERS. As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service ... The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics 3 days ago — The Weather Service's nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning ... DOGE Cuts Contributed to Texas Flood Impact—Former ... Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com › doge-cuts-texas-floods-n... 12 hours ago — Former NOAA administrator Rick Spinrad said an NWS vacancy could have been why some people didn't receive flood warnings. Debate erupts over role job cuts played in weather ... AP News https://apnews.com › article › weather-texas-floods-tru... 1 day ago — The vacancies include a key manager responsible for issuing warnings and coordinating with local emergency management officials. Across Texas, key positions at National Weather Service ... Dallas News https://www.dallasnews.com › News › Weather 6 hours ago — Key positions at National Weather Service offices across Texas are vacant, sowing doubt over the state's ability to respond to natural disasters... Edited July 9, 2025 by robosmith 1 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 9, 2025 Report Posted July 9, 2025 6 hours ago, robosmith said: CLEARLY DOGE CUTS PLAYED A ROLE in HUNDREDS of DEATHS in TEXAS FLOODS and yes Trump was RESPONSIBLE for DOGE firings because Musk had NO AUTHORITY without Trump's ORDERS. As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service ... The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics 3 days ago — The Weather Service's nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning ... DOGE Cuts Contributed to Texas Flood Impact—Former ... Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com › doge-cuts-texas-floods-n... 12 hours ago — Former NOAA administrator Rick Spinrad said an NWS vacancy could have been why some people didn't receive flood warnings. Debate erupts over role job cuts played in weather ... AP News https://apnews.com › article › weather-texas-floods-tru... 1 day ago — The vacancies include a key manager responsible for issuing warnings and coordinating with local emergency management officials. Across Texas, key positions at National Weather Service ... Dallas News https://www.dallasnews.com › News › Weather 6 hours ago — Key positions at National Weather Service offices across Texas are vacant, sowing doubt over the state's ability to respond to natural disasters... I accept the wording of the articles, as they're contemplative and speculative. But we'll never know for sure. The inability to assess the truth to a high degree of certainty means objective knowledge again is elusive, in our time. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
gatomontes99 Posted July 9, 2025 Author Report Posted July 9, 2025 8 hours ago, robosmith said: CLEARLY DOGE CUTS PLAYED A ROLE in HUNDREDS of DEATHS in TEXAS FLOODS and yes Trump was RESPONSIBLE for DOGE firings because Musk had NO AUTHORITY without Trump's ORDERS. As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service ... The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics 3 days ago — The Weather Service's nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning ... DOGE Cuts Contributed to Texas Flood Impact—Former ... Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com › doge-cuts-texas-floods-n... 12 hours ago — Former NOAA administrator Rick Spinrad said an NWS vacancy could have been why some people didn't receive flood warnings. Debate erupts over role job cuts played in weather ... AP News https://apnews.com › article › weather-texas-floods-tru... 1 day ago — The vacancies include a key manager responsible for issuing warnings and coordinating with local emergency management officials. Across Texas, key positions at National Weather Service ... Dallas News https://www.dallasnews.com › News › Weather 6 hours ago — Key positions at National Weather Service offices across Texas are vacant, sowing doubt over the state's ability to respond to natural disasters... You keep lying despite the fact that I've definitively proven you wrong on at least 5 posts. Why? 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted July 10, 2025 Report Posted July 10, 2025 Demand for Investigation Into National Weather Service After Deadly Floods In Texas Quote “Following the disastrous and deeply devastating flash flooding in Texas this weekend, I write to urge you to immediately to open an investigation into the scope, breadth, and ramifications of whether staffing shortages at key local National Weather Service (NWS) stations contributed to the catastrophic loss of life and property during the deadly flooding,” Schumer wrote in the letter. In the letter, Schumer cited a New York Times article that reported positions at the San Antonio and San Angelo National Weather Service offices were vacant because President Donald Trump’s administration encouraged retirements and put a freeze on hiring. “The roles left unfilled are not marginal, they’re critical,” Schumer wrote. “These are the experts responsible for modeling storm impacts, monitoring rising water levels, issuing flood warnings, and coordinating directly with local emergency managers about when to warn the public and issue evacuation orders. To put it plainly: they help save lives.” After Paul Yura, the National Weather Service’s warning coordination meteorologist, accepted a retirement offer from the Trump administration earlier this year, the role has been left vacant, according to Reuters. Rep. Julian Castro (D-Texas) echoed Schumer’s concerns. On Monday, Castro told CNN that the vacant positions at the National Weather Services should be investigated. “I don’t think it’s helpful to have missing key personnel from the National Weather Service not in place to help prevent these tragedies,” he said. Right wingers here demand we IGNORE the impact of Trump/DOGE haphazard firings of critical expertise which would have SAVED LIVES. 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Quote
paxamericana Posted July 10, 2025 Report Posted July 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Demand for Investigation Into National Weather Service After Deadly Floods In Texas Right wingers here demand we IGNORE the impact of Trump/DOGE haphazard firings of critical expertise which would have SAVED LIVES. 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 You’re approaching the problem incorrectly. It’s not about how many expert opinion you have. It’s about how early on can a warning be made. There are some predictive modeling that has to take place along with the right measurements of input variables. Oh and by the way, we do not currently have the math to calculate weather pattern down to the city zip code level. You’re quite literally blaming Trump for the weather. Trump derangement syndrome was circa 2017-2024. Maybe look into getting that Fauchi ouchy again? 1 Quote
robosmith Posted July 10, 2025 Report Posted July 10, 2025 1 minute ago, paxamericana said: You’re approaching the problem incorrectly. It’s not about how many expert opinion you have. It’s about how early on can a warning be made. There are some predictive modeling that has to take place along with the right measurements of input variables. Oh and by the way, we do not currently have the math to calculate weather pattern down to the city zip code level. Sorry you don't get to specify the "correct" way to approach ANY PROBLEM. The FACT is, the NWS issued a warning 3:20 in advance of flooding, but the expert on getting warnings out to PEOPLE had been FIRED by DOGE and it was NOT sent out until after the flood had trapped MANY PEOPLE. 1 minute ago, paxamericana said: You’re quite literally blaming Trump for the weather. Trump derangement syndrome was circa 2017-2024. Maybe look into getting that Fauchi ouchy again? FAR FROM IT. The BLAME LIES WITH Trump for FIRING the experts in MANAGING WARNINGS and getting PEOPLE OUT of DANGER. Thanks for demonstrating you don't know HOW TO READ. LMAO Quote
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