CdnFox Posted May 10 Author Report Posted May 10 7 hours ago, ExFlyer said: You mean to those that lost the election as a leader of his party and then even lost his own seat? So, democracy is to kick out a loyal member so the loser can take his spot ? Well that will be up to the people in that riding. I know, you don't want them to have the choice. The party is indicated that they want Poilievre to stay on as a leader, the people in the writing of indicated they're happy to have Poilievre represent them, the guy is willing to step aside of his own free will, and the people in the writing will have to vote as to whether or not they approve of this in the end. But you think it's absolutely terrible and horrible and evil and no good very bad that any of these people be given a choice. Democracy should only happen when it suits you after all. That is the liberal way Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Aristides Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, myata said: Keeping the objective numbers in mind I can't quite agree and neither should anyone who can count. 1.2 to 1.5 million $ for unnecessary election spent versus ~ 10% "saved"? Ohoh. It surely works out of someone's pocket just not his. Unnecessary?. Trudeau had lost the confidence of his own party and we were due for an election in the fall anyway. Would you have rather had a PM without a seat until the fall? Or are you just referring to the upcoming bye election? Would it have been OK with you if the Liberals had just held a bye election to give Carney a seat until the fall instead of a general election in the spring? Edited May 10 by Aristides Quote
eyeball Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Where is gov't oversight supposed to come from, pray tell? I think that if you were being honest, you'd say that you want the opposition under heavy scrutiny, and mostly muzzled. Dang, nothing gets past you does it? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted May 10 Author Report Posted May 10 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Dang, nothing gets past you does it? Not when it wallows and squeals like a pig in a trough. Which you do. You constantly defend the liberals corruption, you constantly say that elections are pointless and not a way to hold parties to account, you make the most ridiculous suggestions and you keep voting for the left and supporting the liberals every opportunity you get here. And that's when you're not blaming harper for justin's criminal behavior. It's pretty obvious you're just fine with corruption as long as it's the liberals doing it. I will now wait your inevitable sea lioning where you pretend you've never even heard of the liberals never mind defended them 🙄🙄🙄 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I will now wait your inevitable sea lioning where you pretend you've never even heard of the liberals never mind defended them. Okay, have it your way...I love 'em. And you can take that to the bank.😇 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Okay, have it your way...I love 'em. And you can take that to the bank.😇 Yeah. We know. Just like we all know you'll deny it again tomorrow Hey. You're a leftie. It's in your blood to lie. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
myata Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 8 hours ago, Moonbox said: the election was unnecessary. PP's very own by-election, approximately a day after Canadian citizens and taxpayers have spoken loud and clear. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 47 minutes ago, myata said: PP's very own by-election, approximately a day after Canadian citizens and taxpayers have spoken loud and clear. What's that got to do with anything? Poilievre doesn't get to stay on his leader unless his party approves. That's democratic. Poilievre doesn't get to take over the riding unless the electorate approves. The gentleman in question wouldn't step down unless he approved. Across the board this is completely democratic Are you seriously complaining that democracy cost money? Why is it your kind of people always hate democracy unless it's specifically benefits them? What a bunch of freaking fascists you are Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
cougar Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 (edited) On 5/9/2025 at 6:45 PM, CdnFox said: I rather doubt you'd see a liberal doing that Just a political stunt. Pre-election campaigns cost big money. He gets a big "Like" vote from all Canadians for just $154K while making the rest look bad. You wait and see what happens if he gets elected. It is also very possible the Oil and Gas industry paid him the $154K and asked him to turn the severance down so his chances are better next time around. Edited May 11 by cougar 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 1 hour ago, cougar said: Just a political stunt. A 155 THOUSAND dollar political stunt? He's entitled to the money, that's a hell of a stunt. Can you name a time when any other political leader in history has given up 155 thouand dollars he's personally entitled to out of his own pocket for a 'stunt'? Hell Jaggers sold out his own party for a pension. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: Well that will be up to the people in that riding. I.... Yup, it sure will and if the people in that riding cannot see past the pony the PP is, well, then they deserve him. https://cupe.ca/pierre-poilievre-it-banks-billionaires-and-big-polluters-not-you Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
CdnFox Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Yup, it sure will and if the people in that riding cannot see past the pony the PP is, well, then they deserve him. https://cupe.ca/pierre-poilievre-it-banks-billionaires-and-big-polluters-not-you LOL still quoting reputable sources i see 😂🤣😆 Fun fact, Poilievre got more endorsements from unions than anyone else. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: LOL still quoting reputable sources i see 😂🤣😆 Fun fact, Poilievre got more endorsements from unions than anyone else. Oh, you dispute the Canadian Union of Public Employees as being a reputable source? Of course you do as it does not jive with your narrative??? As always LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
CdnFox Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 21 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Oh, you dispute the Canadian Union of Public Employees as being a reputable source? The fact that you don't shows what an amazing tribalist and cultist you are. Remember when they got in trouble for supporting hamas's attacks? Pepperige farm remembers It is literally their job to be bias. And i notice you couldn't deal with the fact PP got more union endorsements than anyone else Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 28 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The fact that you don't shows what an amazing tribalist and cultist you are. Remember when they got in trouble for supporting hamas's attacks? Pepperige farm remembers It is literally their job to be bias. And i notice you couldn't deal with the fact PP got more union endorsements than anyone else I respect CUPE and that is why I linked their endorsement to you. I deal with the fact that the Canadian public endorsed Carney and not PP LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
CdnFox Posted May 11 Author Report Posted May 11 5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I respect CUPE LOL i bet you do HAHAHA!! Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 On 5/10/2025 at 10:00 AM, ExFlyer said: You mean to those that lost the election as a leader of his party and then even lost his own seat? So, democracy is to kick out a loyal member so the loser can take his spot ? I would think in doing so serves his personal immediate purpose?? Hopefully the residents of the riding he is stealing see what he is, a loser, and will not let him get away with it. He did not kick out another member, thats a liberal myth....that MP volunteered his own seat, as a gesture to the parties leader.... i know foreign concept for the left.... But yes it is in our own rules of democracy, the party leader can ask members to step down....Of course if your a liberal you don't ask you just accuse them of some wrongdoing dismiss them from the party then step in that riding....like you own the place...a lot of double standards going on... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Army Guy said: He did not kick out another member, thats a liberal myth....that MP volunteered his own seat, as a gesture to the parties leader.... i know foreign concept for the left.... But yes it is in our own rules of democracy, the party leader can ask members to step down....Of course if your a liberal you don't ask you just accuse them of some wrongdoing dismiss them from the party then step in that riding....like you own the place...a lot of double standards going on... Oh yeah, the conservatives looked for someone willing to give up their hard won huge majority seat.:) Never once said they kicked out another sitting member. Never once said it was undemocratic either. Yeah, fell on his sword for the good of the party LOL WTF Army Guy...it was him or someone else that would commit political suicide to keep the fourth loser leader of the party in office. I never accused anyone of wrongdoing and you can apologize and I will accept it. When are the conservatives ever going to find a guy that is a real leader and win an election. Shit, the Libs parachuted in Carney, never a politician and never ran for office and the party was 28 points behind and still kicked conservative butt!! That has to tell you something about the conservative leader and his platform. And this is the first time in my voting life I ever voted for a liberal. I hated liberals form way back when Trudeau took a train ride through BC and told BCers to Fuddle Dudlde. Shit, I even voted for that bonehead O'Foole Edited May 11 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
Legato Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Oh, you dispute the Canadian Union of Public Employees as being a reputable source? CUPE is a reliable source? Lol How many bottles a day do you rub to see if a genie pops out? Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 24 minutes ago, Legato said: CUPE is a reliable source? Lol How many bottles a day do you rub to see if a genie pops out? Ok, I said I respect CUPE and the 750,000 members of CUPE . I guess you are a better source??? Oh wait, you predicted a conservative win and ...guess what.? You LOST. So, you are far from a reliable source LOL Gotta love the LOSERS though, they are in full denial mode. But hey, that is the first phase of grief. They are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Eventually you will be in 5th stage. You have 4+ years to work on it LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
Legato Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Ok, I said I respect CUPE and the 750,000 members of CUPE . I guess you are a better source??? Oh wait, you predicted a conservative win and ...guess what.? You LOST. So, you are far from a reliable source LOL Gotta love the LOSERS though, they are in full denial mode. But hey, that is the first phase of grief. They are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Eventually you will be in 5th stage. You have 4+ years to work on it LOL "Oh, you dispute the Canadian Union of Public Employees as being a reputable source?" Your words, meaning that you imply they are. Suck it up sunshine, get back to rubbing bottles. Quote
Army Guy Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Oh yeah, the conservatives looked for someone willing to give up their hard won huge majority seat.:) Never once said they kicked out another sitting member. Never once said it was undemocratic either. Yeah, fell on his sword for the good of the party LOL WTF Army Guy...it was him or someone else that would commit political suicide to keep the fourth loser leader of the party in office. I never accused anyone of wrongdoing and you can apologize and I will accept it. When are the conservatives ever going to find a guy that is a real leader and win an election. Shit, the Libs parachuted in Carney, never a politician and never ran for office and the party was 28 points behind and still kicked conservative butt!! That has to tell you something about the conservative leader and his platform. And this is the first time in my voting life I ever voted for a liberal. I hated liberals form way back when Trudeau took a train ride through BC and told BCers to Fuddle Dudlde. Shit, I even voted for that bonehead O'Foole That member has told the media he volunteered his seat, nobody ask him for his seat...like i said liberal myth... Quote So, democracy is to kick out a loyal member so the loser can take his spot ? Ya you did is that not your words. i thought you were going to be honest. Political suicide how ? exactly.... No but you do have double standards, how was it Carney got his seat anyways....I mean it's all over the media, but some how thats ok....and what PP is doing is not....OK... When will the conservatives find a leader that will win...sorry my crystal ball is broken, what i do know is carney is not going to be in office for 4 years.... It's your vote,use it any ways you like, you decided to vote liberal you have to live with that, we have already lived through 9 years of liberals wrecking the country, i guess you did not get enough of them .... ....just as i have to live with voting conservative.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Legato said: "Oh, you dispute the Canadian Union of Public Employees as being a reputable source?" Your words, meaning that you imply they are. Suck it up sunshine, get back to rubbing bottles. Nope, the question is to you and, as usual, you deflect and will not answer. So, once again "Oh, you dispute the Canadian Union of Public Employees as being a reputable source?" Also, as I said " I said I respect CUPE and the 750,000 members of CUPE " Clearly you do not otherwise you would say so So, you you?? LOSER?? This is PP and you and some others on this forum LOL Edited May 11 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
ExFlyer Posted May 11 Report Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: That member has told the media he volunteered his seat, nobody ask him for his seat...like i said liberal myth... Ya you did is that not your words. i thought you were going to be honest. Political suicide how ? exactly.... No but you do have double standards, how was it Carney got his seat anyways....I mean it's all over the media, but some how thats ok....and what PP is doing is not....OK... When will the conservatives find a leader that will win...sorry my crystal ball is broken, what i do know is carney is not going to be in office for 4 years.... It's your vote,use it any ways you like, you decided to vote liberal you have to live with that, we have already lived through 9 years of liberals wrecking the country, i guess you did not get enough of them .... ....just as i have to live with voting conservative.... Do you truly believe that?? What do you expect him to say??? The conservative kool aid must taste good LOL How? Exactly? Well, he is a relatively new member of parliament representing his riding by a landslide and potentially a long career ahead of him and he steps away for a leader that actually lives over 3000 kms away from the riding?? yeah, my crystal ball is broken too. Like I said, this is the first time I could not vote conservative. Yes, it was my choice. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
Moonbox Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Oh wait, you predicted a conservative win and ...guess what.? You LOST. He didn't just predict a conservative win...he predicted a conservative majority. That Kool-Aid is mighty potent. Reality bends to his desires. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
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