Carney & Monarchy: Clueless

[ExFlyer]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL .

Kid, every time you use the down arrow .'t.....hate the messenger  

Opinions vary....

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Oh..poor baby..hurt your feelings did I?? Don't really care do I LOL

 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Oh..poor baby..hurt your feelings did I??

 

No.  And that appears to be why you're triggered  

[PIK]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Give it up... I never said that, you did and therein lies the problem LOL

I said "Being anti monarchy but still welcoming the King is not mutually disagreeable.

He is still the head of State in Canada so, symbolically, figuratively and Constitutionally.

I am anti monarch but it is entrenched in our constitution so, he is always welcome."

Nothing hypocritical about what I said.

Why anti monarchy?

[ExFlyer]

13 minutes ago, PIK said:

Why anti monarchy?

I just do not think the monarchy, other than historical reasons, has any value in Canada any more.

It is just a personal opinion and worth nothing to anyone else.

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, Legato said:

But it would be if Palaver had invited Charles. You know that.

No I don't. You have to be living in a cave not to see that Trump has changed the priorities of the average Canadian. Partisan politics is taking a back seat to national unity for the first time in decades, except for the most partisan who have to make everything political. Of course it won't last but we should appreciate it while we can.

Edited May 13 by Aristides

[Legato]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Give it up... I never said that, you did and therein lies the problem LOL

I said "Being anti monarchy but still welcoming the King is not mutually disagreeable.

He is still the head of State in Canada so, symbolically, figuratively and Constitutionally.

I am anti monarch but it is entrenched in our constitution so, he is always welcome."

Nothing hypocritical about what I said.

That's what you're saying now after Carney became PM. Before, staunch anti-monarchist.

Hypocrisy to the front and center.

 

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

No I don't. You have to be living in a cave not to see that Trump has changed the priorities of the average Canadian. Partisan politics is taking a back seat to national unity for the first time in decades, except for the most partisan who have to make everything political. Of course it won't last but we should appreciate it while we can.

Elbows up.

[August1991]

On 5/12/2025 at 8:05 PM, cougar said:

I smell Alberta in you

True. I am a foreigner - my father was not born a Canadian.

[August1991]

On 5/11/2025 at 8:37 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Are you still holding on to the idea that Trump is actually smart? 

He told Carney that Canada doesn't do much business with the US, didn't he? 

Carney is a career banker, and Trump is a career Carnival Barker. 

You have this exactly backwards

Many Anglo Central Canadians view as you do.

I disagree.

IMV, Trump is wily like a fox.

Carney is a typical ambitious bureaucrat.

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Let's see how this plays out.

[Michael Hardner]

6 hours ago, August1991 said:

1. Trump is wily like a fox.

2. Carney is a typical ambitious bureaucrat.

3. Let's see how this plays out.

1. Foxes are indeed wiley but they can't do basic arithmetic.

2. The Carney question is separate.  Whether he has the ability to succeed is an open question. 

3. We have no choice.

 

 

[herbie]

Wiley is about the last word I'd use to describe a man who compulsively blurts out his intentions.

[blackbird]

15 hours ago, August1991 said:

Carney is a typical ambitious bureaucrat.

Carney is a slave of the Pope.  The previous Pope was a Jesuit Socialist.  That means leftist, globalist.  Keep sending billions of dollars around the globe and continue the war on climate change.   

Edited May 14 by blackbird

[August1991]

On 5/14/2025 at 3:32 PM, blackbird said:

Carney is a slave of the Pope.  The previous Pope was a Jesuit Socialist.  That means leftist, globalist.  Keep sending billions of dollars around the globe and continue the war on climate change.   

Fergawdsakes, years ago Carney was Roman Catholic.

Nowadays, religion is irrelevant.

Carney favours green.

[blackbird]

6 hours ago, August1991 said:

Fergawdsakes, years ago Carney was Roman Catholic.

Nowadays, religion is irrelevant.

Carney favours green.

Hey I just found a far more revealing article describing PM Carney and what he will be like.  So I am replacing the previous post with this one.   It shows you are actually quite correct.  According to this article, Carney is Trudeau 2.0 or really 3.0   (Trudeau 1.0 being Pierre Trudeau).  It looks like Carney is a very typical liberal and so we can expect pretty much a continuation of Liberal policies and ideology.

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Some Canadian Catholics are eager to have a prime minister who shares their faith yet offers a contrast to Justin Trudeau. Mark Carney appears to fit the bill. In 2015, while serving as Governor of the Bank of England, Carney was named Britain’s “most influential Catholic” by The Tablet. My co-religionists would be wise, however, to look beyond flattering headlines and critically examine the political machinery Carney represents.

Carney is no moderate. Nor is he a reformer. He is a well-connected globalist with deep ties to institutions such as the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, Bank for International Settlements, and the Financial Stability Board. These organizations place little value on national sovereignty, individual liberty, or democratic accountability. His rise is not rooted in public trust or grassroots support. It’s the product of backroom deals, media adoration, and elite coordination.

The need for “Catholic Carney caution” goes well beyond the veteran national banker’s personal strengths and weaknesses. It is rooted in the very party he has chosen to lead.

The federal Liberal Party has long been Canada’s most aggressive force opposing Catholic social teaching. It pushes policies that are openly hostile to the Church’s moral framework. This is the party that:

Labels opposition to abortion as “misogyny” and being “anti-women”

Proposes revoking the charitable status of “anti-abortion organizations” and seeks to amend the Income Tax Act to eliminate “the advancement of religion” as a charitable purpose

Aggressively promotes Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD), turning euthanasia into a default “solution” for those suffering from poverty, mental illness, or disability

Advances radical gender ideology, pressuring institutions – including Catholic schools –to adopt policies that contradict basic Catholic anthropology, including the sterilization and chemical castration of vulnerable children

The concerns don’t end there. The party Carney leads also:

Demonizes political dissidents

Demonizes those who stand for medical freedom and against coercive vaccine mandates

Freezes the bank accounts of peaceful protestors

Shows sympathy toward Communist China

Promotes censorship and restricts free speech through legislation such as Bill C-16 and Bill C-4

This is not a party that tolerates dissenting views rooted in Catholic moral teaching, let alone advocates for them. Carney’s Liberal party alignment raises serious questions about the principles that will shape his leadership.

Concern extends beyond personal religious consistency. Canadians, Catholic or otherwise, must consider the broader consequences of a government led by Mark Carney:

Continuation of the Trudeau era’s economic failures: Reckless spending, heavy taxation, and inflationary policies disguised with buzzwords like “green transformation”

Opposition to financial decentralization: As a lifelong central banker, Carney is a vocal critic of Bitcoin and other decentralized cryptocurrencies, which challenge centralized monetary control. While the world increasingly embraces financial independence through digital currencies, Carney is committed to preserving central bank dominance by ensuring Canadians remain tied to inflationary fiat currency

Expansion of financial surveillance

Preference for global elites over Canadian citizens: Through his involvement with the World Economic Forum and similar global institutions, Carney shows his priorities lie with transnational technocrats – not ordinary Canadians

An undemocratic path to power: Carney’s political rise is not a reflection of popular support. It’s the result of elite orchestration. Less than 0.5% of Canadians had any say in his leadership

Mass Immigration: Mark Carney recently appointed Mark Wiseman chair of the Century Initiative, an organization advocating for a Canadian population of 100 million by the end of the century. Wiseman has said publicly Canada should eliminate all immigration screening and adopt an open-door policy

Carney is not a neutral technocrat. He represents the calculated continuation of a political order built on control and centralization of power. He is Trudeau 2.0.

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A Catholic’s caution about Mark Carney | The Catholic Register

Sounds like the Catholic religion is very flexible.  It accept anybody with any beliefs.  They don't have to hold traditional Catholic values.  Obviously the beliefs of Liberals are completely contrary to traditional teachings in many ways.  In other ways, Catholic values appear to be kind of globalist or Socialist.  Several things stand out:

1.  Mass immigrations appears to be on the agenda.

2.  Preference for global elites over Canadian citizens.  After all what have ordinary Canadians got to contribute to global elites or their agenda?  Nothing really.  We the citizens are just a convenient tool for a global elitist to gain more political power on the world stage and push their global elitist agenda.

3.  Continuation of the Trudeau era’s economic failures: Reckless spending, heavy taxation, and inflationary policies disguised with buzzwords like “green transformation”

[blackbird]

7 hours ago, August1991 said:

Nowadays, religion is irrelevant.

Carney favours green.

In Roman Catholicism, yes, you are correct.  One can be quite devoted and a practicing Catholic, yet be a committed Liberal progressive at heart and reject traditional moral values.  Look at Trudeau 2.0.  He was a Catholic but never followed their teachings on opposing abortion, and he supported MAID and the LGBTQ+2S agendas including sexual orientation and gender identity.  Carney will be the same.  Rome does not enforce its moral beliefs on its members.  It is basically a free-for-all.  So, you are correct.  Even devout followers do not take the moral teachings of their religion seriously.  Globalist and liberal ideology comes first.