Poilevre wants to reverse the single-use ban on plastics!

[Barquentine]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Have you never driven a car while you were eating fast food?

Straws are a big issue for you, huh?

You didn't know most, if not all, sell cans and bottles of drinks as well. And of course, you don't have to drive while you're eating. And they sell metal straws now....

 

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Of course not, you're 12

I wish!

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

This is not about plastic straws.

This is literally about plastic straws.

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And not even about plastic packaging, much of which is necessary.  It's about removing as much plastic as possible from the waste chain and food chain. You don't think that's a good idea? 

So far it seems to be about virtue signaling.

If the goal is to remove something we perceive as a danger from the environment because they are harmful, and full disclosure here I haven't actually read a lot of research one way or the other about how harmful it actually is, Then any Sane person would have to agree that a solution that introduces even more harmful items to the environment is not a solution but rather is virtue signaling.

So if we've identified this as a problem then we need to take a step back and actually address it. The plastic band didn't address the problem. It was a virtue signaling move that was meant for optics rather than results. Not only did it fail to remove harmful elements from the environment, the product that replaced the straws are horrible and turn to pulp before you finish your drink half the time.

I can get behind real solutions, but so many of these solutions are just fake virtue signaling nonsense that make the problem worse not better and that's where I have an issue

[Army Guy]

23 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Got kids? Want them to grow up with micro-plastics in their blood and brain? Or maybe you just don't give a shit about anything except scoring a few political points. This is beyond short sighted politics.

So banning these few plastic things is going to magically fix theses micro plastic problems, The left is very good at making solutions that fix only a little bit of the problem so they can sleep at night....making these plastic recyclable is what PP wants, most of our plastics we have today are one time use, and fill our landfills, making them recyclable will take plastics out of the land fills....But you guys did not read that far into the conservative platforms...you never do...just like to point fingers....

What have you done to prevent your kids from being exposed to microplastics....or are you just chirping...and trying to score a few political points on a forum 

 

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Straws are a big issue for you, huh?

You didn't know most, if not all, sell cans and bottles of drinks as well. And of course, you don't have to drive while you're eating. And they sell metal straws now....

Yeah, sometimes I find myself driving 4-12 hrs at a time and I don't pack straws. I never stop to eat when I'm on a long drive unless my wife is with me. 

[herbie]

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

😂

Seeing as how you can't even counter the very quote you responded to and need to deflect to some other subject, please tell is in simple English what the f*ck CNN has to do with Cdn politics let alone CPC platform?

[herbie]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Then any Sane person would have to agree that a solution that introduces even more harmful items to the environment is not a solution but rather is virtue signaling.

WTF are you talking about? WHO introduces more harmful substances, or did you find lead shopping bags and asbestos straws somewhere for sale on the dark web?

The whole reversal idea is so petty and appeals only to the most disgruntled 'get off my lawn' types and virulent anti-environuts it's absurd. As are claims it's about "control" and "Virtue signalling".
Digging through the last few dregs to win support to their cause or what?

MOF it's just more outright proof of the MapleMAGA copying of the US agenda. Tariffs and deportations are about the only two things PP hasn't copied off Trump's playbook.... yet,

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, herbie said:

Seeing as how you can't even counter the very quote you responded to and need to deflect to some other subject, please tell is in simple English what the f*ck CNN has to do with Cdn politics let alone CPC platform?

Judging by how badly you want Canada to fail, you must be a houthie, and you just misspelled your username. You typed an "erb" instead of "outh"...

On the bright side, being phonetically challenged is the least of your problems. 

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

WTF are you talking about? WHO introduces more harmful substances, or did you find lead shopping bags and asbestos straws somewhere for sale on the dark web?

The glues and other toxins in paper straws end up inside your stomach, herbie.

Everything that they say is good for you now is what's found to cause cancer ten years from now. By the time you get hair on your earthworm, you'll know. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

WTF are you talking about? WHO introduces more harmful substances

For god sakes Herbie I posted a link to the story of the study and everything! It spells it out quite clearly! It's right there!

Honest to heaven's, if I were you I'd worry less about the impact of plastics on our environment and more about the impact of your mother drinking booze while pregnant. You never miss a chance to look stupid

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

The glues and other toxins in paper straws end up inside your stomach, herbie.

Everything that they say is good for you now is what's found to cause cancer ten years from now. By the time you get hair on your earthworm, you'll know. 

The study I posted even shows that the chemicals will last in our environment longer than the Plastics will. They are true forever chemicals.

Honest to god I posted all of this stuff and links and everything, it sure seems like Herbie has a great deal of concern about Plastics in the environment and the health risks involved but absolutely no concern about the health risks involved with huffing gas 🙄   (apparently)

Edited April 20 by CdnFox

[herbie]

Oh FFS Mr Antivax is gonna shit over the glue in a paper straw (like how f*cking often do adults even use straws) and the other's gonna carry on about cotton and paper bags are worse....

FFS they got banned because the landfills and oceans are filling up with tossed away plastic that doesn't biodegrade.

So go gripe into a toilet bowl if you can't ever address the actual issue.

[blackbird]

Instead of banning plastics, which is a very difficult proposition when you consider bags and packing material, etc., why not stop dumping plastic into waterways.  Who is actually dumping it all into the rivers, streams and oceans?  That is where the government should be concentrating its efforts.  Plastic should only go into recycling bins.  It doesn't need to be banned.  If it is all collected, it can then be melted down and recycled.  Concentrate on stopping people from dumping into the environment.  Simple.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS Mr Antivax is gonna shit over the glue in a paper straw (like how f*cking often do adults even use straws) and the other's gonna carry on about cotton and paper bags are worse....

FFS they got banned because the landfills and oceans are filling up with tossed away plastic that doesn't biodegrade.

So go gripe into a toilet bowl if you can't ever address the actual issue.

But you're scared spent less of tiny particles of plastic. Okay

[Aristides]

Plastic straws weren’t used until the 1960’s. Before that we used waxed plastic straws. The US alone uses 500 million plastic straws a day and it takes over 1500 barrels of oil to make them. That’s a lot of plastic going into the environment from straws alone. Is the convenience really that important?

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Plastic straws weren’t used until the 1960’s. Before that we used waxed plastic straws.

And they stopped because something came along that performed considerably better at a lower price. We used to use horses instead of cars and horses burnt far less carbon fuel    But it's unlikely that we're going to be able to go back to a horse-based society or that we would be better off if we did

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The US alone uses 500 million plastic straws a day and it takes over 1500 barrels of oil to make them. That’s a lot of plastic going into the environment from straws alone. Is the convenience really that important?

As I pointed out from the studies above if we switch to paper we're putting every bit as much chemicals into the environment that will never go away and that are harmful.

Is your virtue signaling really that important? Because you're not actually doing anything positive for the environment.

I'm all over switching to a product that's more environmentally friendly but it has to actually be more environmentally friendly and it has to be practical. Similar price similar performance etc

I have no doubt that if there's a market out there somebody could invent that but right now moving to paper doesn't make anything better

[ExFlyer]

On 4/19/2025 at 9:47 AM, Barquentine said:

This is not about plastic straws. And not even about plastic packaging, much of which is necessary.  It's about removing as much plastic as possible from the waste chain and food chain. You don't think that's a good idea? 

Yes it is....it is all about plastic straws.

Thank gawd PP is going to save Canadians and give us plastic straws back!! LOL

Giving me my plastic straw back is his platform LOL

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Giving me my plastic straw back is his platform LOL

I thought it would REALLY appeal to you thought, considering you suck so much 😂😆🤣😁 Ba da bing!!! 

Oh come on, you can't blame me for that one, it was RIGHT THERE!

[herbie]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Giving me my plastic straw back is his platform LOL

If you're of retirement age you you didn't even use them until you were in or out of high school. The world must have been sheer hell before that.
And those flat wooden spoons in the waxed cardboard ice cream containers, they scraped along your tongue! Finding strips of wax in our quarts of milk, paper grocery bags that disintegrated in the rain!
Where would we be without our plastic shit that we could dig up and reuse 200 years from now?
It's not about waste disposals and the environment, it's all conspiracy about 'control' and woke virtue signalling... bring back our freedumb to dump used motor oil in the alley, shit in the well and chuck no-deposit bottles out the window on the freeway.

FFS it's sickening that a once legitimate Conservative Party has sunk to the level of courting dotards that promote single use plastics in 2025.

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I thought it would REALLY appeal to you thought, considering you suck so much 😂😆🤣😁 Ba da bing!!! 

Oh come on, you can't blame me for that one, it was RIGHT THERE!

It is the only thing he can talk about as he has no security clearance and does not know what is going on in the world let alone with world leaders. LOL

Even the Premier of Manitoba went and had discussions with the the European Union. PP has not been out of the country in 10 years except to go on vacation to Maro Lago LOL

You were crying becasue the libs and NDP did not release a costed platform and yet, here they have and PP has not.

So, suck on that through your plastic straw LOL.  If plastic straws is all PP has got, he is even sadder than I figured. He has nothing. And he should know the problem plastics are all over the world. But, if he cannot meet with world leader...he can surely Google it LOL

[CdnFox]

59 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

It is the only thing he can talk about as he has no security clearance and does not know what is going on in the world let alone with world leaders. LOL

 

Wow. I was wrong you do actually suck  

He's talked about a lot of things. He's talked about how your current chairman, oh sorry party leader, tried to protect a person who suggested killing someone who was his political opponent by turning him over to china for the bounty. He's coming to that the next person he put in was also a Chinese agent. You'll notice the others didn't actually comment on any of that. They can't

He's also commented on carney's disasters budget. You don't need security clearance to see that that's a nightmare waiting to happen

He's also commented on the 10 years of absolutely dismal liberal performance and that carney was there for a good hunk of it advising on economic matters.

He's commented that carney has never actually LED anything out of a crisis which is absolutely true according to everyone that's been around carney during a crisis.

These pointed out and talked about how courtney was a complete failure at the bank of England according to everybody from England and a fair number for Ireland.

Who's also talked about how he would do things differently and why it would be successful

No wonder you want to make this all about plastic straws    Everything else he talks about explains why you and scum like you should never be listened to.

I will now wait your hissy fit where you go on for seven pages posting ass p*** or other childish memes because you can't cope with reality and you're actually a 15 year old child living in your mother's basement   Toodles!

[blackbird]

Looking forward to plastic straws again.  They are clean, smooth and don't crumble like paper straws.  Whoever forced paper straws on people should be locked up.  They are garbage.  They get soggy, absorb moisture and fall apart.  

The problem is with the system of disposal.  They should always be put in a recycling bin and never dumped into waterways or on land.  They should all be recycled.  That's all there is to it.

[betsy]

On 4/18/2025 at 9:41 AM, Barquentine said:

I can't believe this id*ot wants to go backward on one of the worst environmental problems. We should be banning more plastics, like individually wrapped cheese slices. We're already finding micro-plastics in food and wildlife. What a troglodyte!!!

 

Poilievre 's climate policy makes sense, and actually gives results!

 

  You get countries like India to buy clean energy from us - they (India) will lower their emission! 

India's population, NO CONTEST with Canada!  That's a big result!

 

Anyway - if it's really that dire.....

Have you ever wondered why they hadn't banned plastic altogether - in whatever shape or form?

Edited April 21 by betsy

[ExFlyer]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Wow. I was wrong you do actually suck  

He's talked about a lot of things....

...

I will now wait your hissy fit where you go on for seven pages posting ass p*** or other childish memes because you can't cope with reality and you're actually a 15 year old child living in your mother's basement

OK, let me re-phrase that, he can only whine, cry and complain ...in Canada becasue no one in the world will talk to him becasue he has no security clearance.

All the things you cite are complaints LOL

Speaking of whining and complaining, PP has for more then a month whined and complained that Carney has not shown a costed platform. Well, surprise surprise, Carney an the NDP provided theirs and wait...PP has not???  So, once again, whine and complain and not even doing what he is whining about LOL

No hissy fit, just stating facts.  Those are the things you seem to filter out

As for a 5 year old child living in your mother's basement, well , that is how I have described you for a long time,. You should give me credit if you are going to use my words LOL

Edited April 21 by ExFlyer

[Barquentine]

On 4/19/2025 at 12:54 PM, CdnFox said:

virtue signaling

You guys use that catch-phrase any time someone does or supports something good.

 

On 4/19/2025 at 12:54 PM, CdnFox said:

these solutions are just fake virtue signaling

Ho-hum...

 

On 4/19/2025 at 12:54 PM, CdnFox said:

rather is virtue signaling.

See a pattern?

 

On 4/19/2025 at 12:54 PM, CdnFox said:

a virtue signaling move

This is getting monotonous. You guys love your catch-phrases. So much easier than thinking for yourself.

 

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

your virtue signaling

 

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I'm all over switching to a product that's more environmentally friendly but it has to actually be more environmentally friendly and it has to be practical. Similar price similar performance etc

Agreed.

[Nationalist]

Libbies. Saving the planet, one straw at a time.