PIK Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 Carney wins, the country breaks up. Pure and simple. 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 1 hour ago, PIK said: We are not having a trade war with Europe. He should be at home dealing with Trump and China. And what little ti.e he would have over there ( back tomorrow) he would be better off using thd phone. This is just a expensive victory lap. He is gathering his friends to assist us in the trade war with trump. Are you really that dense? There is nothing better than face to face. Too look into the eyes of your friends (and enemies). A phone call is as useless are a facebook discussion LOL 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
WestCanMan Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 19 hours ago, herbie said: Parliament doesn't resume until the 24th. Hopefully you can wait for a whole week until he can crush your dreams. Is this a good time to have parliament shut down? 18 hours ago, ironstone said: Well to be fair, Carney did say he was European. “I am European, actually,” he told a moderator in a World Economic Forum session posted to social media. “I am an Irish citizen. Speaking as a European …” https://torontosun.com/news/national/warmington-mark-carney-has-spoken-as-a-european-but-will-he-speak-as-canadas-pm His true loyalty is to Mark Carney and no one else. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 17 hours ago, Army Guy said: What do you think the UK and france are going to do to trump....nothing both are fighting their own trump sh1t right now... And they have nukes. Hmmmmm. Chrystia Freeland must have been wrong 😂 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 17 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Yes, I am saying running in an election and trying to deal with Trump and a trade war is too much to do either proper justice.. The LPOC wasn't doing the country justice before the trade war, as evidenced by the ultra-low support for the Trudeau gov't in the polls, and the HoC is going to be a clown car from now until the election anyways. Quote How can the PM or his cabinet run their campaigns and deal with Tyrant Trump at the same time? The party of "maybe Britain will protect us from America with their nukes" can't be in charge of something this sensitive and this important. Quote I disagree, we cannot afford to be kicked around and in the nuts by Trump for another 2 or so months it takes for the election to run it's course. Too many Canadians can suffer greatly in the next few months and may not be able to recover. Carney is a deer in the headlights even when faced with a calm Pierre Poilievre. Did you see him stammering when PP asked him if China was committing a genocide against the Uyghurs? I don't want to see what Carney does when Trump comes at him with both barrels. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
blackbird Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: He is gathering his friends to assist us in the trade war with trump. Carney has not been elected yet to represent Canadians. Therefore he has no mandate to be representing Canadians. He is a lame duck Liberal choice for PM and does not yet have the confidence of the House of Commons. The caretake convention says he should not be doing anything significant on behalf of Canadians. That is just how democracy works. Edited March 17 by blackbird 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 17 minutes ago, blackbird said: Carney has not been elected yet to represent Canadians. Therefore he has no mandate to be representing Canadians. He is a lame duck Liberal choice for PM and does not yet have the confidence of the House of Commons. The caretake convention says he should not be doing anything significant on behalf of Canadians. That is just how democracy works. Yes he is the PM of Canada. Yes he can speak on behalf of all Canadians. There has been n the past and can be in the future too. What the F is "caretake convention"??? You had better become informed of what you are saying before you have take your foot out of your mouth (again). It is applicable during an election only. As the PM, he went to Europe to gather support for Canada. Who in the world even knows who PP is? He has only left the country to go on vacation. In the world political system, he is a zero, an unknown, and has no associations with anyone or anything. Not a very good place to be when Canada is in a crisis. 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Legato Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: He is gathering his friends to assist us in the trade war with trump. I know this back in 2018 but doe he really have any friends in the UK. Bank of England officials are to be grilled by MPs after new figures showed a “concerning” spike in bullying and harassment cases during Mark Carney’s term as Governor. https://jerseyeveningpost.com/morenews/uknews/2018/10/10/bank-of-england-faces-probe-after-bullying-and-harassment-rise-under-mark-carney/ Quote
blackbird Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 (edited) 42 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: As the PM, he went to Europe to gather support for Canada. Who in the world even knows who PP is? The fact is as I stated, Carney has no mandate. Tough if you don't like it being pointed out. It just shows his dishonesty in acting as if he has a mandate to deal with foreign relations. He has no mandate to do so. He is not even an elected member of Parliament. He is only a the liberal party's choice for the next PM. He is kind of caretaker PM but has no mandate to do anything of any significance. That's just how it works. I never said PP has a mandate to act as PM either. So why make stuff up? Edited March 17 by blackbird Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 32 minutes ago, Legato said: I know this back in 2018 but doe he really have any friends in the UK. Bank of England officials are to be grilled by MPs after new figures showed a “concerning” spike in bullying and harassment cases during Mark Carney’s term as Governor. https://jerseyeveningpost.com/morenews/uknews/2018/10/10/bank-of-england-faces-probe-after-bullying-and-harassment-rise-under-mark-carney/ I am not sure but, he is very familiar with the European trade system and does have, at least, colleagues and associates there. I am not and have not ever said he was without "controversy". He was not a saint as governor of the bank of canada either. Those jobs are not to please everyone but to keep the money straight. That pisses off someone all the time LOL Point is, he at least has "connections" in Europe and is hoping to call in favours, for Canada. PP is not saying anything because he knows no one over there. And Jagmeet, well, he does not know anyone at all and those that do, do not like him LOL I am not and will not endorse him but, I am glad that he is trying something. 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 Just now, blackbird said: The fact is as I stated, Carney has no mandate. Tough if you don't like it. He is not even an elected member of Parliament. He is only a the liberal party's choice for the next PM. He is kind of caretaker PM but has no mandate to do anything of any significance. That's just how it works. I never said PP has a mandate to act as PM either. So why make stuff up? As much as you try and as much as you don't like it, he is the PM of Canada until and election says otherwise. He does not have to be elected to be PM. He has all the mandate as any other PM before him. Who said PP was PM? Not me. So,you are making stuff up again...as you did with that caretaker convention shit. You seriously gotta get your own shit together and gather facts before you make stupid unfounded statements. Your shit has flowed from your bowels to your head and has made your blue eyes brown LOL 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
TreeBeard Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: So,you are making stuff up again...as you did with that caretaker convention shit. To be fair, @blackbird is parroting an op-ed in the National Post. A particularly ignorant op-ed, that is just partisan hackery, but writing in the NP does give these people influence over the opinions of people like the poster. Critical thinking skills are lacking. Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Are you really that dense? The partisan hacks are scared that this helps Carney politically. That’s all it is. They don’t want to see him improve Canada’s situation because they can’t stand the Libs. The would prefer Canada to lose if it means they can get their party elected. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The LPOC wasn't doing the country justice before the trade war, as evidenced by the ultra-low support for the Trudeau gov't in the polls, and the HoC is going to be a clown car from now until the election anyways. The party of "maybe Britain will protect us from America with their nukes" can't be in charge of something this sensitive and this important. Carney is a deer in the headlights even when faced with a calm Pierre Poilievre. Did you see him stammering when PP asked him if China was committing a genocide against the Uyghurs? I don't want to see what Carney does when Trump comes at him with both barrels. I agree but, the trade war is upon us now. Where and when did any party claim Britain will protect us??? He went to Britain and France to gather support in the trade war and to show support to Ukraine. Did you see any of the press conferences?? PP is in panic mode. Far from calm. LOL His lead has all but vanished. Well,in my opinion (like it or not, iIdo not care), he will be better equipped to speak economics and facts than PP who has sucked the government teat his entire life and has admitted to liking trump and his policies. PP has no idea what is going on as he did not even get security clearance. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 On 3/16/2025 at 3:50 PM, ironstone said: It's more proof that he would like to prolong the trade war with the US as long as it benefits his party. One person is responsible for this trade war. If you live in Canada you should at least know that much. Quote
ironstone Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 29 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: One person is responsible for this trade war. If you live in Canada you should at least know that much. I am of the opinion that Trump is to blame and that his tariffs are not necessary. Canada has been abiding by the USMCA which came about during Trump's first term. However, I do feel that Carney should consider the tariff war to be his top priority right now. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
herbie Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 Shame how the continual toss trash and play the victim nonsense has overtaken the entire Tory movement. I don't like it so it's corruption, undemocratic, unethical etc. etc. You want to be ruled by decree where one man can rule say so and it is done, even dissolve Parliament. Then you can whine about that because he's not your man. 2 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 6 hours ago, ExFlyer said: He is gathering his friends to assist us in the trade war with trump. Are you really that dense? There is nothing better than face to face. Too look into the eyes of your friends (and enemies). A phone call is as useless are a facebook discussion LOL Trump's trade war is with the European union, not sure if france can act independently or not, ....British economy do you think it is strong enough to make a difference for canada...how so ? even the european unions total economy might not be enough to tackle the US. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 13 minutes ago, Army Guy said: tackle the US. Isn’t the goal to mitigate the disaster of Trump policies as much as possible? Where did anyone claim that we could just hold hands with Europe and the pain will all go away? You seem to be arguing against a straw man; an argument that no one has made. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: The partisan hacks are scared that this helps Carney politically. That’s all it is. They don’t want to see him improve Canada’s situation because they can’t stand the Libs. The would prefer Canada to lose if it means they can get their party elected. Be real, Treebeard. This is the exact same flock of LPOC toadies that licked Trudeau's feet for 9 years, and they absolutely do need to be punted for the good of the country. Otherwise all we would be doing is swapping out Ayatollah Trudeau for Ayatollah Carney. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
ExFlyer Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Trump's trade war is with the European union, not sure if france can act independently or not, ....British economy do you think it is strong enough to make a difference for canada...how so ? even the european unions total economy might not be enough to tackle the US. Canada can use help and establish more trading partners. Asking to do more trade is very doable and viable. Canada has been to Europe regularly with trade delegations, this time the new PM went over... What has PP or Jagmeet or May done for us lately?? Besides complain?? LOL Edited March 17 by ExFlyer 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Army Guy Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 59 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Canada can use help and establish more trading partners. Asking to do more trade is very doable and viable. Canada has been to Europe regularly with trade delegations, this time the new PM went over... What has PP or Jagmeet or May done for us lately?? Besides complain?? LOL This trip has very little to do with establishing new trade partners....No trade delegation, he has very limited powers to start with....what we need is an election before carney screws things up no one can fix... Who runs the country again, can PP or the rest of them travel to europe and talk about trade, nope that's not how things work....everyone has a job to do...Carney should be trying to solve this trade tariff thing..then worry about diversifying our trade....atleast seeing trump to see what the ground rules are...new PM, new Rules Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 2 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Isn’t the goal to mitigate the disaster of Trump policies as much as possible? Where did anyone claim that we could just hold hands with Europe and the pain will all go away? You seem to be arguing against a straw man; an argument that no one has made. By doing what exactly, the french are part of the european union, and i'm pretty sure can not make independent trade negotiations, and Britain is a key US allied, and is not going to upset that basket....so what can carney possibly mitigate by seeing these two guys....it is a distraction from the main problem trump....So if nothing is going to be accomplished thats exactly what he is doing holding hands with people that can not or will not influence any thing. It's not a straw man....it's a waste of time and money...might as well of went to the beach in the Bahamas' Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Army Guy said: i'm pretty sure can not make independent trade negotiations There are never bilateral discussions with EU member states any longer? 13 minutes ago, Army Guy said: it's a waste of time and money This is the most petty criticism of a PM. “He should stay in Canada and not do diplomacy”. I swear conservatives would prefer to watch Canada burn than to see a Liberal PM out trying to solve issues. I think voters see this reflected in Poilievre too, which is probably why he’s likely to lose the election. Normal Canadians want to see their country do well, regardless of the party in power. Edited March 17 by TreeBeard Quote
Army Guy Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: There are never bilateral discussions with EU member states any longer? This is the most petty criticism of a PM. “He should stay in Canada and not do diplomacy”. I swear conservatives would prefer to watch Canada burn than to see a Liberal PM out trying to solve issues. I think voters see this reflected in Poilievre too, which is probably why he’s likely to lose the election. Normal Canadians want to see their country do well, regardless of the party in power. "YOU" think it is petty, we are in the middle of a major trade war and he is off seeing european friends...i think it is of utmost importance to concentrate on that...and calling an election. let's wait until the election is called before declaring a winner....and if Canadians have not had their fill of those liberal government then they clearly have not learned anything in the last 8 plus years...it is the same cabinet , all thats has changed is 3 new members and carny has gone from advising to running the party....same sh1t in the same bag only this time Carney has fooled most canadians into think he is the next liberal god... Liberal Canadians are not normal, this is the same liberal party Justin ran , and carney advised...don't expect anything thing to change....Justins liberals don't change anything they kick problems down the road for someone else to fix... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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