WestCanMan Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 1 minute ago, Aristides said: A ceasefire without guarantees is just an opportunity for Putin to build up for a new assault. Could be. It could also be an opportunity for the US to get more weapons in the hands of the Ukrainians, dumbass. And ceasefire "guarantees" are as good as arse-wipe anyways. They hold or they don't, and that's got more to do with "who's in the WH" 😘 At the end of the day, it's usually just a few less days when there was killing, and/or maybe a ray of hope. Quote Trump doesn't give a rats ass about Ukrainian lives, That's just you talking out of your ass again. Trump has shown over and over again that he wants to end wars, not start them, and Biden has shown nothing but a lust for blood and death in Ukraine. I'm just the messenger. Don't take it personally, stupid. Quote all he cares about is how much he can extort from Ukraine before he hands it over to the Russians. I think most Ukrainians would take an end to the war over some minerals. Citizens never get money from oil and minerals (aside from maybe Alaskans), just from the jobs in extracting them. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Aristides Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 Quote Quote Dear Republicans; We get it. You all saw what he did to Liz Cheney, and you don’t want that to happen to you. Short of outright political banishment, if you displease him in the slightest, he might even mean-tweet you from his golf cart in Florida. You all tremble at the mere thought of that. And he knows it, which is why he does it; to control you. To get you to confirm the most unqualified Cabinet secretaries in American history. If the gravity of that situation wasn’t so solemn, it would be comical. But what’s done is done. You didn’t want to suffer the indignity of being mean-tweeted, so you seated a drunk who paid a woman $50,000 to buy her silence to become America’s Secretary of Defense, an anti-science conspiracy theorist for Health and Human Services and a man who openly hates the FBI to run it. You’ve watched in silence as his hatchet man—or should I say his chainsaw man—has wiped out the careers of untold thousands of Americans, the cascading effects of which will no doubt threaten the very existence of poverty-stricken communities who rely on America’s bounty and generosity. You fidgeted in your seats a bit when he shook his fist at Mexico, Canada, Panama and Denmark. But no outright condemnation from any of you, because again, you can’t: the spirit of Liz Cheney might haunt you. You’re in a unique position. Hard as it is to believe, you’re the gatekeepers. Once upon a time, in a magical epoch known as pre-Trump, Congress was a coequal branch of government. That means YOU had it within your power to keep lawlessness and tyranny in check. But that was then and this is now. You’ve ceded your authority because; say it with me: Liz Cheney. In the hierarchy of things that matter to you, in order from most to least, are: • Me • My personal safety • Not getting mean-tweeted • Getting re-elected • People who won’t vote for me • People in shithole countries • The nation At the far end of the courage spectrum from you and at the far side of the planet, there’s a guy named Volodimr Zelenskyy. He must look like an alien species to you, because his priorities are diametrically opposed to yours. When offered a chance to be airlifted out of his embattled nation, he turned it down and confronted the threat pouring over his nation’s borders. He then addressed his people from a darkened corner somewhere in Kyiv, reassuring them that he and his government will stand and fight on their behalf. But now he and his 38 million fellow Ukrainians face a new threat: Blatant betrayal by the President of the United States. If Trump follows through with it, Zelenskyy himself, perhaps the most iconic example of raw courage in the world today, will be hunted. And if captured, meted out Navalny justice. But that can only happen if you let it. Yes, I know, you murmur amongst yourselves over martinis how you had to swallow hard to vote for Tulsi Gabbard, or to stay silent when he gutted the USAID and the national parks. But unless you take a hard stand, and say HELL NO, I’m drawing the line right HERE… you’re as complicit as he is. This quote has never been more relevant: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.” ~ Edmund Burke This is your moment. History will document your names right alongside his. I’m looking at you, Lindsey the Lionhearted. Ted the Turd. Joni, Queen of Castraters. Rise up. Fear not the mean-tweet. Liz Cheney knowingly sacrificed her career, as did Adam Kinzinger, because they made the calculus: Who am I and what are my core values? And they deduced that there are bigger things in this world than themselves. Thus far, not a single Republican in this picture has come to a similar conclusion. Cowards, all. And if you allow Ukraine to fall by your inaction, you’ll be accomplices in mass murder, as well as the beginning of the end for NATO. Quote
User Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Hey dumbass as Zelensky pointed out Putin has already violated multiple ceasefires since his invasion started in 2014 so why should Ukraine sign away its critical mineral rights to Trump just to get another empty promise that Trump wont even guarantee? A ceasefire isn’t a peace treaty What good is a mineral rights agreement with America... if Ukraine is conquered and/or at war and they can't be used? Your logic here doesn't work. This is not the entirety of the deal, either. You are conflating at least 3 different things here with any proposed peace deal, security arrangements after, and this economic partnership. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 (edited) I challenge the left to watch the first 35 minutes of this and come up with how Trump attacked Z. It got heated when Z started lecturing JD and Trump. Edited March 2 by gatomontes99 2 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
suds Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 (edited) UK, France and Ukraine will present peace deal to Trump, Starmer says.... Britain and France will work on a peace deal with Ukraine and present it to Donald Trump, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said on Sunday, describing it as a step in the right direction following Friday's explosive meeting in the White House. Starmer, due to host Western leaders in London in a bid to revive a peace deal, said he hoped a European "coalition of the willing" would come together to support Kyiv, but that any ceasefire had to be underpinned by the United States to prevent Russian President Vladimir Putin from invading Ukraine again. "In other words, we've got to find those countries in Europe that are prepared to be a bit more forward leaning," he told BBC television. "The UK and France are the most advanced on the thinking of this and that is why President Macron and I are working on this plan, which we will then discuss with the US." Starmer spoke to Macron and Trump on Saturday after he hosted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in Downing Street, a day after Trump and Zelenskiy clashed in an extraordinary meeting at the White House. Starmer repeated his assertion that a peace deal would only work in Ukraine if a possible European peacekeeping force had a security guarantee from the United States. "I've always been clear that that is going to need a US backstop, because I don't think it would be a guarantee without it," he said. https://www.tbsnews.net/world/uk-france-and-ukraine-will-present-peace-deal-trump-starmer-says-1082401 Edited March 2 by suds Quote
Aristides Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 Just one problem, Trump's guarantees aren't worth the paper they are written on. He has never kept an agreement if he has seen it in his interest to break it. Quote
suds Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Aristides said: Just one problem, Trump's guarantees aren't worth the paper they are written on. He has never kept an agreement if he has seen it in his interest to break it. Perhaps. But if you can get UK, France, and U.S. to arrive at some understanding it is significant that they are all nuclear powers. Edited March 2 by suds Quote
CdnFox Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Norwegian fuel company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced it will cease supplying fuel to U.S. military forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine. In a strongly worded statement, the company criticised a televised event involving U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance, referring to it as the “biggest shitshow ever presented live on TV.” Haltbakk Bunkers praised Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky for his restraint, accusing the U.S. of “putting on a backstabbing TV show” and declaring that the spectacle “made us sick.” As a result, the company stated: “We have decided to immediately STOP as fuel provider to American forces in Norway and their ships calling Norwegian ports. No Fuel to Americans!” Haltbakk Bunkers also urged Norwegians and Europeans to follow their lead, concluding their statement with the slogan “Slava Ukraina” in support of Ukraine. Who is Haltbakk Bunkers? Haltbakk Bunkers is a Norwegian fuel supplier that provides marine fuel for shipping and military operations. Based in Kristiansund, Norway, the company specialises in bunkering services for vessels operating in Norwegian waters, offering fuel logistics and distribution for both civilian and military customers. Haltbakk Bunkers plays a significant role in Norway’s maritime industry, supplying fuel to vessels calling at Norwegian ports, including NATO and allied forces. The decision to cut off the U.S. military could have logistical implications for American naval operations in the region. Norway is a key NATO member and frequently hosts U.S. and allied forces for joint exercises and Arctic defence operations. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/norwegian-fuel-supplier-refuses-u-s-warships-over-ukraine/ Wow. thats surprisingly strong. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Russia was very careful not to engage Ukraine directly while Trump was in the WH. That's cause he knew Trump would give him everything he wanted, cause Trump is already IN HIS POCKET. 🤮 As most people know, Putin knows where Trump's bodies are buried. Quote
robosmith Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Trump has shown over and over again that he wants to end wars, not start them, and Biden has shown nothing but a lust for blood and death in Ukraine. You have confused Putin with Biden. Everything Biden has done is purely DEFENSIVE. Even put limits on the use of US arms. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Just one problem, Trump's guarantees aren't worth the paper they are written on. He has never kept an agreement if he has seen it in his interest to break it. Just grow up ffs. That's literally the opposite of Trump's attitude towards every war. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Hodad Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 22 hours ago, West said: You were ecstatic when Biden threw 70 year old grannies in prison. That's a communist move That's right, in real 'Murica, after age 70 you can just break whatever laws you want without consequence. 🤦♂️ Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 50 minutes ago, robosmith said: That's cause he knew Trump would give him everything he wanted, cause Trump is already IN HIS POCKET. 🤮 As most people know, Putin knows where Trump's bodies are buried. If that was the case then he would have attacked Ukraine while Trump was in the WH and Ukraine didn't have access to all of America's weapons. Get it? "Duh, thanks for the offer of letting us take over Ukraine Mr Trump, but we will wait for Biden to be president so that it's more of a challenge." I can never tell if you're being serious or if you're just saying the stupidest thing that comes to mind before myata says it. 1 minute ago, Hodad said: That's right, in real 'Murica, after age 70 you can just break whatever laws you want without consequence. 🤦♂️ "In real 'Murica, after age 70 you can just break whatever laws you want without consequence." - Joe Biden Fixed it for ya. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
West Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 29 minutes ago, Hodad said: That's right, in real 'Murica, after age 70 you can just break whatever laws you want without consequence. 🤦♂️ Selective prosecution. Hundreds of churches were firebombed by woke lunatics during the Biden administration and they laid zero arrests. Instead they targeted a non violent 70 year old lady. Pretty vile stuff Quote
Hodad Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 9 hours ago, ironstone said: So this is what's happening to the future generation in Ukraine now. It is likely the exact same for Russia. https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2025/03/02/watch-viral-cctv-video-shows-ukrainian-soldiers-abducting-youth-walking-his-dog-for-military-recruitment-to-fight-russia-war.html What happens when the available pool of young men gets smaller and smaller? Progressives think this is the best path instead of trying to end the war? Nationalist will get a big discount on his next mail order bride? Quote
Aristides Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 2 hours ago, suds said: Perhaps. But if you can get UK, France, and U.S. to arrive at some understanding it is significant that they are all nuclear powers. The US under Trump only stands by agreements as long as it is convenient for Trump. Canadians are getting an object lesson in this right now. Making an agreement with Trump means nothing. 1 Quote
suds Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 More news from Sunday's summit.... European Commission President makes clear that EU will not accept any deal that cedes Ukrainian territory to Russia seized since full scale invasion in 2022. Starmer announces a finance deal to help Ukraine purchase 5000 missiles and that the UK is prepared to put boots on the ground and planes in the air, but insists any deal must have strong U.S. backing. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-ukraine-peace-deal-trump-b2707585.html Quote
West Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Could be. It could also be an opportunity for the US to get more weapons in the hands of the Ukrainians, dumbass. And ceasefire "guarantees" are as good as arse-wipe anyways. They hold or they don't, and that's got more to do with "who's in the WH" 😘 At the end of the day, it's usually just a few less days when there was killing, and/or maybe a ray of hope. That's just you talking out of your ass again. Trump has shown over and over again that he wants to end wars, not start them, and Biden has shown nothing but a lust for blood and death in Ukraine. I'm just the messenger. Don't take it personally, stupid. I think most Ukrainians would take an end to the war over some minerals. Citizens never get money from oil and minerals (aside from maybe Alaskans), just from the jobs in extracting them. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1896248819547070782/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1896248819547070782¤tTweetUser=elonmusk Gabbard suggests that the leftist talking points are just conditioning the masses to accept suspended elections effectively creating a dictatorship Quote
Hodad Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, West said: Selective prosecution. Hundreds of churches were firebombed by woke lunatics during the Biden administration and they laid zero arrests. Instead they targeted a non violent 70 year old lady. Pretty vile stuff You are a liar and a fool. Full stop. Hundreds of churches were not firebombed--let alone by "woke lunatics" during the Biden administration. And anyone caught for burning a church was absolutely prosecuted. And none of it is relevant, because the law prohibits harassment of people accessing churches or medical care. Nothing about firebombing whatsoever. Jeebus. Edited March 3 by Hodad 1 Quote
West Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, Hodad said: You are a liar and a fool. Full stop. Hundreds of churches were not firebombed--let alone by "woke lunatics" during the Biden administration. And anyone caught for burning a church was absolutely prosecuted. And none of it is relevant, because the law prohibits harassment of people accessing churches or medical care. Nothing about firebombing whatsoever. Jeebus. Once again you live in an echo chamber. It's pathetic. Full stop. "At least 368 incidents have occurred across 43 states and the District of Columbia since May 2020. Incidents include arson, statues beheaded, limbs cut, smashed, and painted, gravestones defaced with swastikas and anti-Catholic language and American flags next to them burned, and other destruction and vandalism." https://www.usccb.org/committees/religious-liberty/Backgrounder-Attacks-on-Catholic-Churches-in-US This is JUST CATHOLIC CHURCHES. Quote
Aristides Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 21 minutes ago, West said: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1896248819547070782/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1896248819547070782¤tTweetUser=elonmusk Gabbard suggests that the leftist talking points are just conditioning the masses to accept suspended elections effectively creating a dictatorship Gabbard 🤣 Quote
Aristides Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 50 minutes ago, suds said: More news from Sunday's summit.... European Commission President makes clear that EU will not accept any deal that cedes Ukrainian territory to Russia seized since full scale invasion in 2022. Starmer announces a finance deal to help Ukraine purchase 5000 missiles and that the UK is prepared to put boots on the ground and planes in the air, but insists any deal must have strong U.S. backing. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-ukraine-peace-deal-trump-b2707585.html Even if it does get US backing the EU better be prepared to go it alone because Trump will not honour anything unless it is in his own interest. Quote
West Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 13 minutes ago, Aristides said: Gabbard 🤣 DNI director. Pretty powerful position Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: He violated ceasefires when Biden and Obama were in power. Not Trump. Russia was very careful not to engage Ukraine directly while Trump was in the WH. One again you prove that you are as uninformed as you are gullible. Why do you even bother? FACT: In 2019 while Trump was president Russia signed a ceasefire and then violated it a month later you clueless dumbass. Second of all how gullible do have to be to believe Putin the most evil and ruthless dictator in the world is going to keep hos word THIS TIME just because Trump is president when Trump can’t even bring himself to say one unpleasant word about Putin and defends him at every tuen. Trump won’t even off a security guarantee but expects everyone to take Putin at his word. Trump and his administration appointees are so incompetent they couldn’t hold Putin accountable even id they weren’t putin supporters. Get your clueless gullible head out of your ass 6 hours ago, WestCanMan said: A cease-fire temporarily ends the killing while Trump starves Ukraine, steals its critical minerals and Russia rearms FTFY Quote
Aristides Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) 14 minutes ago, West said: DNI director. Pretty powerful position Ya and generally regarded as a Russian asset. How much intelligence will the Five Eyes partners be willing to share with her in that position. Edited March 3 by Aristides Quote
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