Liberal Party Takes Lead in Polls

[TreeBeard]

54 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

If that happens then i would say no it does not care what PP says or does....but thats a pretty big ask...liberal majority...

The odds favour a Lib majority right now.  
 

 

55 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

well sir you're the one jumping up and down defending Carney,

When I said he promotes bad policy?  Read a bit more carefully.

 

56 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

which even weakens you case even more a vote for the NDP is a wasted unless the liberals run another minority government..

I don’t believe there’s such a thing as a wasted vote.  
 

58 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

if you support NDP

Why do you think I support the NDP?

[August1991]

2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

The odds favour a Lib majority right now.

 

And in 1993. they favoured the Tories.

And in 2016. the polls favoured Clinton.

=====

There are bigger issues now:

1. No one knows who Mark Carney is. (In French Canada, this matters more than elsewhere.)

2. To the extent anyone knows Carney, he's an international banker. (For young male voters, that's a loser.) 

[West]

11 minutes ago, August1991 said:

And in 1993. they favoured the Tories.

And in 2016. the polls favoured Clinton.

=====

There are bigger issues now:

1. No one knows who Mark Carney is. (In French Canada, this matters more than elsewhere.)

2. To the extent anyone knows Carney, he's an international banker. (For young male voters, that's a loser.) 

Carney creeps me out. The Liberal Party should try and keep the guy out of the spotlight until the election cause I can't see him being popular. 

Right now CTV is trying to make it the Liberal Party vs Donald Trump. Sadly the Eastern Canadians have a bad case of the Trump Derangement and have no problem going with a sketchy unknown character so long as they feel morally superior. 

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, West said:

Carney creeps me out. The Liberal Party should try and keep the guy out of the spotlight until the election cause I can't see him being popular. 

Right now CTV is trying to make it the Liberal Party vs Donald Trump. Sadly the Eastern Canadians have a bad case of the Trump Derangement and have no problem going with a sketchy unknown character so long as they feel morally superior. 

Well they're going to run into a problem because even carney is turning around and making it about Canada being independent and if he goes down that road poilievre might very well scoop him.

A good campaign here on Poilievre's Part and still very easily bury Kearney and reduce the liberals to a fraction of their current standing. But that's not guaranteed. We'll have to see how it goes

[SpankyMcFarland]

Carney has not performed well under questioning so far. He needs to speak more slowly and remember journalists are doing their jobs. By contrast, Poilievre’s problem is more basic - convincing Canadians he can be trusted to stand up to Trump. 

[West]

2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Carney has not performed well under questioning so far. He needs to speak more slowly and remember journalists are doing their jobs. By contrast, Poilievre’s problem is more basic - convincing Canadians he can be trusted to stand up to Trump. 

There's a third path and that's deescalating thr current climate that the Liberals created by uttering threats against their top trading partner and to stop using American tax payers money to fund drag story hours in Toronto. 

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Carney has not performed well under questioning so far. He needs to speak more slowly and remember journalists are doing their jobs. By contrast, Poilievre’s problem is more basic - convincing Canadians he can be trusted to stand up to Trump. 

And leave his damned cufflinks alone. 

He's also falling into kamala's trap of talking so much that he winds up saying nothing.  Also quit snarling at reporters. 

Polivre has to do what he does well and  just speak to people without trying to get a tag line in every 2 minutes 

[PIK]

He didn't do well in NFLD, where in north York,PP filled the place. A lot BS from the media on PP. While protecting carney. I still thinking con majority. I don't think carney will even win his seat.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, PIK said:

He didn't do well in NFLD, where in north York,PP filled the place. A lot BS from the media on PP. While protecting carney. I still thinking con majority. I don't think carney will even win his seat.

I think day one of the campaign is going to be Carney's best day and it will go down from there

And I agree I see the polling numbers and it looks like people are going crazy and cocopuffs for Carney, but then i see his rallies and the attendance and it's like nobody cares about this guy where as PP still packs them in. 

Carney has about a week, MAYBE 2 in order to turn his painted lead into real gold before he starts to sink. And i'm not really seeing it. 

[BeaverFever]

On 3/20/2025 at 11:55 AM, CdnFox said:

Sorry kid but that's just a lie that you tell yourself to try and make yourself feel better about Not being able to substantiate your claims. It's just utterly false. And his lies like that which cost the democrats the election in the first place. People, even non-maga types, are just sick to death of the obvious lies repeated again and again and again.

LMAO How many times do you need to be told you can’t call opinions you don’t like lies. What exactly is it you’re claiming that Im”lying” about? 

Post-truth is not a term I invented. Everyone knows he is a prolific liar. You know he lies also. Often his lies aren’t even carefully crafted calculated lies, they’re implausible bullshit he invents right on the spot and have zero basis in reality.

On 3/20/2025 at 11:55 AM, CdnFox said:

Trump gets away with his nonsense because most people recognize it for what it is. He deludes himself into believing what he's saying is true regardless of whether it is or it isn't. Just like you do, except Is generally don't last more than a month or so and then he changes his tune on it  

No he absolutely bullshits fake lies in the spot, often forgetting what he said later, just like you do. Claiming he prefers working with Liberals over conservatives being the perfect example, especially after denouncing them on multiple occasions naming Trudeau and Freeland specifically as the “the worst” people to work with,  “nasty” etc. 

 

On 3/20/2025 at 11:55 AM, CdnFox said:

Trump gets away with his nonsense because most people recognize it for what it is. He deludes himself into believing what he's saying is true regardless of whether it is or it isn't. Just like you do, except Is generally don't last more than a month or so and then he changes his tune on it  

It’s long been said Trumps supporters take him seriously but not literally while his opponents take him literally but not seriously. Some of his cultist followers believe his lies and others just don’t care when they’re debunked, they just go “so what the point still stands”. There’s no way he could honestly believe fentanyl is pouring across the Canadian border for example and his repeated refusal to provide even a shred of evidence or a number around that is proof. Also his many fake stories he can’t possibly believe such as when he claimed the COVID scientists at CDC marvelled at his knowledge of microbiology and remarked he knew almost as much as they did on the subject. It’s not possible he believes these things. He constantly recites completely made up numbers that he must know he made up, although I am sure that after repeats them enough times he loses track of which ones he invented and which came from some other source. 
 

On 3/20/2025 at 11:55 AM, CdnFox said:

That makes no sense, and if you had 1 mm of objectivity you would realize that. Trudeau is gone. If the liberals get elected it won't be trudeau.  So your claims there are just asinine. On top of it even if Trudeau were running trump can hate him and still think he's the easiest guy to push around. He's been pushing him around for 2 terms now 

No, you’re not making sense and you’re being dishonest about what Trump said  He has said on many occasions Canada is tough to deal either ok? He said Canada is nasty, Canada was very unfair and wouldn’t budge. He specifically mentioned Freeland by name  If the Liberals were so easy for him to push around then why is he complaining that the USMCA deal HE NEGOTIATED with Liberals is so very unfair to America and takes advantage of USA?  

And as I said before he has no experience with any Canadian conservatives and admits he knows nothing about them so how could he possibly know they would be difficult to work with?Clearly your assertion doesn’t make any sense and ONCE AGAIN you’re the one lacking basic objectivity.  You are absolutely gaslighting when you try to pretend he said Canada was a pushover and he just didn’t like Trudeau personally. But I suspect you’ve gaslit yourself. 

 

On 3/20/2025 at 11:55 AM, CdnFox said:

And he was pretty clear that while he thinks he'd be better off with the liberals in he doesn't really care and it's not a big deal to him, so 'not knowing' PP well is irrelevant. He did say PP said bad things about him which he thought was stupid. 

Seriously?

HE IS A LIAR

What don’t you understand?

Of course when confronted with inconvenient facts he can’t deny he is going to say he doesn’t care. You are honestly still trying to argue that we can take him as his word and if he made a mistake he would admit to it?
 

On 3/20/2025 at 11:55 AM, CdnFox said:

This is a simple as it gets. Trump thinks the liberals are weak and that he can get along with them because he can push them around. So he said he thinks he's better off with them. And he meant it for now. He also said it really wasn't a big deal so it's not like it's a super strong opinion or anything like that. But it's very obvious that he would prefer to see liberals in rather than PP. Thanks for the liberals, but you've decided it's a bad sounding thing because you're trying to make it that trump just loves poilievre and Poilievre loves trump and that doesn't fit your narrative so instead you're going to lie and create a bunch of absolutely Puerile pap In a desperate effort to try and defend your preconceived belief.

As Ive established above you have concocted a narrative that doesn’t match reality. Trump has complained repeatedly that the Liberals were in fact too difficult to work with, not too weak. Not only are your opinions “not very obvious” they are hilariously dubious and based on nothing except your desire to take the most shameless liar in western politics at his word on just this one occasion, base your entire argument on this one comment and literally ignore observed reality. 

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO How many times do you need to be told you can’t call opinions you don’t like lies. What exactly is it you’re claiming that Im”lying” about? 

LOL oh look you're being dishonest yet again and yet again you somehow think it's my fault  

 

Quote

Post-truth is not a term I invented.

that doesn't make it true kiddo  

Sorry but the whole 'post truth' thing is a lie that people like you tell yourself to justify your positions. It's not real. 

 

Quote

Everyone knows he is a prolific liar. You know he lies also. Often his lies aren’t even carefully crafted calculated lies, they’re implausible bullshit he invents right on the spot and have zero basis in reality.

Sure he lies but the vast majority of the time when he says something that's untrue he believes it.  Now ... that's not exactly a much BETTER mental health issue but it's the way it is  

BTW  biden lied almost as much. Politicians do that. 

Quote

No he absolutely bullshits fake lies in the spot, often forgetting what he said later,

He 'fake lies'?  Kid, you're just making shit up at this point. 

Quote

just like you do.

Sure kid. Trump is my fault 🙄🙄

Quote

Claiming he prefers working with Liberals over conservatives being the perfect example, especially after denouncing them on multiple occasions naming Trudeau and Freeland specifically as the “the worst” people to work with,  “nasty” etc. 

Well you'd be the one lying now.  

He didn't say he preferred working with the liberals.  He said he didn't care but in the end he'd be better off with the liberals probably but it didn't matter.  I'm certain he believed that was true and it's pretty obvious why. 

There's no 'lie' in that. 

Quote

It’s long been said Trumps supporters take him seriously but not literally while his opponents take him literally but not seriously. Some of his cultist followers believe his lies and others just don’t care when they’re debunked, they just go “so what the point still stands”. There’s no way he could honestly believe fentanyl is pouring across the Canadian border for example and his repeated refusal to provide even a shred of evidence or a number around that is proof. Also his many fake stories he can’t possibly believe such as when he claimed the COVID scientists at CDC marvelled at his knowledge of microbiology and remarked he knew almost as much as they did on the subject. It’s not possible he believes these things. He constantly recites completely made up numbers that he must know he made up, although I am sure that after repeats them enough times he loses track of which ones he invented and which came from some other source. 

Blah blah blah orange man bad yes yes.

Fentynal is crossing the border. That is true. And it gives him the excuse to declare an 'emergency' and act without congress, so there you go. But it is true that fentynal is crossing the border.  Sorry to break it to you. 

Quote

No, you’re not making sense and you’re being dishonest about what Trump said  He has said on many occasions Canada is tough to deal either ok? He said Canada is nasty, Canada was very unfair and wouldn’t budge. He specifically mentioned Freeland by name  If the Liberals were so easy for him to push around then why is he complaining that the USMCA deal HE NEGOTIATED with Liberals is so very unfair to America and takes advantage of USA?  

Wah wah wah facts give me diaper rash!!!! 

I haven't been dishonest about a thing. Sorry but freelands gone and so is justin. He's talking about carney now.  Fact is he pushed freeland and justin around quite a bit but even you know that's not what he's discussing. 

 

Quote

And as I said before he has no experience with any Canadian conservatives and admits he knows nothing about them so how could he possibly know they would be difficult to work with?Clearly your assertion doesn’t make any sense and ONCE AGAIN you’re the one lacking basic objectivity.  You are absolutely gaslighting when you try to pretend he said Canada was a pushover and he just didn’t like Trudeau personally. But I suspect you’ve gaslit yourself. 

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

well maybe that's why he prefers liberals.  He didn't give a reason. But you're making my case for me. Soooooo... yeah. 

 

Quote

Of course when confronted with inconvenient facts he can’t deny he is going to say he doesn’t care. You are honestly still trying to argue that we can take him as his word and if he made a mistake he would admit to it?

There's nothing inconvenient about any of this for him. And that's the thing, he has absolutely no reason to lie or to care about it or anything. He made a relatively off hand comments when they bugged him he said he didn't care it didn't matter but now that he thinks about it maybe the liberals would be better for him to deal with but in the end he doesn't care

And you're trying to present that as some Machiavellian 4D chess move. Go bang your head on something it can only benefit your intelligence
 

Quote

As Ive established above you have concocted a narrative that doesn’t match reality. Trump has complained repeatedly that the Liberals were in fact too difficult to work with, not too weak. Not only are your opinions “not very obvious” they are hilariously dubious and based on nothing except your desire to take the most shameless liar in western politics at his word on just this one occasion, base your entire argument on this one comment and literally ignore observed reality. 

Cry babying and pooing yourself is not establishing anything. The only thing you successfully established is that you are irrational. And that you didn't listen to what trump actually said

It's pretty obvious that trump meant what he said and that it's what he believed in the moment and it's also fairly obvious that he didn't really have a lot of feelings about it one way or another. He's made it very clear he doesn't like Polievre. He says PP said bad things about him (he didn't but 'trump', what can you do). 

Now grow up. We have better things to discuss than your insecurities and lack of emotional maturity 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL oh look you're being dishonest yet again and yet again you somehow think it's my fault  

So you didn’t answer the question just more empty insults. No wonder you’re a PP follower. 
 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry but the whole 'post truth' thing is a lie that people like you tell yourself to justify your positions. It's not real. 

I know you folks on the far right live in a black hole if information but post-truth has been a thing for a decade now.  So far your response in every linenof both posts is just you with your fingers in tour ears baselessly say “whatever you say is  a lie la la la”. You don’t even offer an attempt at rebuttal. Or do you think “you’re a liar” is an intelligent rebuttal to any argument you don’t want to believe?  So childish of you. 
 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sure he lies but the vast majority of the time when he says something that's untrue he believes it.  Now ... that's not exactly a much BETTER mental health issue but it's the way it is  

BTW  biden lied almost as much. Politicians do that. 

Cmon NOBODY lies as much as Trump. In any western country. Nobody. And he can’t possibly believe all of them. He tells tall tales like he knows more about the military than generals or as much about COVID as scientists. He completely makes up numbers and invents stories that never happened. As I said before, the ones he repeats often enough he will probably forget that he was the one who invented them and he believes them to be true but he has absolutely no problem repeating things he knows to he false. His objective is to get people to agree with him and he will say anything to do it. It’s classic narcissistic behaviour and Trump is a textbook narcissist. Sure he does truly believe that he is one of the greatest people alive and so people should follow and revere him, so there’s one thing he believes as true. But he will tell any lie to achieve that goal with the belief that the truth doesn’t otherwise matter  

As I said originally, they don’t have well-formed beliefs  Trump probably believes that tariffs are good, but he probably couldn’t write a high-school level paper on what they are and how they work.  He thinks somehow the exporter pays them (false) and the cost doesn’t get passed on to the buyer (also false) But since he has this belief that is little more than memorizing “tariffs good” he will say anything to promote that even if happens to know or ought to know it’s untrue like fentanyl pouring over the border from Canada. He simply doesn’t care id it’s true or not its a means to an end:  if it’s true, great; if not, so what tariffs are still good  

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well you'd be the one lying now.  

He didn't say he preferred working with the liberals.

YOUR EXACT WORDS:

“There's little doubt in my mind he would prefer a liberal government. “

 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

said he didn't care but in the end he'd be better off with the liberals probably but it didn't matter.  I'm certain he believed that was true and it's pretty obvious why. 

No It’s not obvious why especially since on multiple occasions he has complained the Liberals were the most difficult to work with and that he didn’t know anything about PP. And you still won’t explain your argument other than to say “it’s obvious”.   Because you don’t have an argument. 
 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Fentynal is crossing the border. That is true. And it gives him the excuse to declare an 'emergency' and act without congress, so there you go. But it is true that fentynal is crossing the border.  Sorry to break it to you. 

Everyone knows his fentanyl claims are bogus and you ought to also. The amount crossing from Canada is about as close to zero as any can realistically achieve. Trump lied and said it is “pouring” across the border “at levels never seen before”. The drug problem at the border is largely US drugs flowing into Canada not the other way around. 
 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Wah wah wah facts give me diaper rash!!!! 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

So childish. You have not made a single intelligent argument. Seriously you ought to be embarrassed. 
 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

There's nothing inconvenient about any of this for him. And that's the thing, he has absolutely no reason to lie or to care about it or anything. He made a relatively off hand comments when they bugged him he said he didn't care it didn't matter but now that he thinks about it maybe the liberals would be better for him to deal with but in the end he doesn't care

And you're trying to present that as some Machiavellian 4D chess move. Go bang your head on something it can only benefit your intelligence

Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound?   There’s nothing inconvenient for him about accidentally tanking conservative parties and boosting left wing parties in Canada all over the western world? Especially the party of people he hates and has openly lambasted multiple occasions?  He has no reason to lie about his screwups?

Lying about his screwup that he can’t admit to is a 4D chess move?

 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Cry babying and pooing yourself is not establishing anything. The only thing you successfully established is that you are irrational. And that you didn't listen to what trump actually said

More of your juvenile insults, and YOUR irrational argument which is nothing other than “but Trump denied he screwed up”. 

TRUMP IS THE MOST SHAMELESS LIAR 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It's pretty obvious that trump meant what he said and that it's what he believed in the moment

It’s pretty obvious he was bullshitting “In the moment” because he is incapable of admitting he is incompetent 
 

 

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

So you didn’t answer the question just more empty insults. No wonder you’re a PP follower. 
 

I know you folks on the far right live in a black hole if information but post-truth has been a thing for a decade now.  So far your response in every linenof both posts is just you with your fingers in tour ears baselessly say “whatever you say is  a lie la la la”. You don’t even offer an attempt at rebuttal. Or do you think “you’re a liar” is an intelligent rebuttal to any argument you don’t want to believe?  So childish of you. 
 

Cmon NOBODY lies as much as Trump. In any western country. Nobody. And he can’t possibly believe all of them. He tells tall tales like he knows more about the military than generals or as much about COVID as scientists. He completely makes up numbers and invents stories that never happened. As I said before, the ones he repeats often enough he will probably forget that he was the one who invented them and he believes them to be true but he has absolutely no problem repeating things he knows to he false. His objective is to get people to agree with him and he will say anything to do it. It’s classic narcissistic behaviour and Trump is a textbook narcissist. Sure he does truly believe that he is one of the greatest people alive and so people should follow and revere him, so there’s one thing he believes as true. But he will tell any lie to achieve that goal with the belief that the truth doesn’t otherwise matter  

As I said originally, they don’t have well-formed beliefs  Trump probably believes that tariffs are good, but he probably couldn’t write a high-school level paper on what they are and how they work.  He thinks somehow the exporter pays them (false) and the cost doesn’t get passed on to the buyer (also false) But since he has this belief that is little more than memorizing “tariffs good” he will say anything to promote that even if happens to know or ought to know it’s untrue like fentanyl pouring over the border from Canada. He simply doesn’t care id it’s true or not its a means to an end:  if it’s true, great; if not, so what tariffs are still good  

YOUR EXACT WORDS:

“There's little doubt in my mind he would prefer a liberal government. “

 

No It’s not obvious why especially since on multiple occasions he has complained the Liberals were the most difficult to work with and that he didn’t know anything about PP. And you still won’t explain your argument other than to say “it’s obvious”.   Because you don’t have an argument. 
 

Everyone knows his fentanyl claims are bogus and you ought to also. The amount crossing from Canada is about as close to zero as any can realistically achieve. Trump lied and said it is “pouring” across the border “at levels never seen before”. The drug problem at the border is largely US drugs flowing into Canada not the other way around. 
 

So childish. You have not made a single intelligent argument. Seriously you ought to be embarrassed. 
 

Do you not realize how ridiculous you sound?   There’s nothing inconvenient for him about accidentally tanking conservative parties and boosting left wing parties in Canada all over the western world? Especially the party of people he hates and has openly lambasted multiple occasions?  He has no reason to lie about his screwups?

Lying about his screwup that he can’t admit to is a 4D chess move?

 

More of your juvenile insults, and YOUR irrational argument which is nothing other than “but Trump denied he screwed up”. 

TRUMP IS THE MOST SHAMELESS LIAR 

It’s pretty obvious he was bullshitting “In the moment” because he is incapable of admitting he is incompetent 
 

 

Good lord you get long winded when you get neurotic. I'll shorten it up and do it all here. 

Considering you answer the question in your next line I assumed it was rhetorical. Either that or you've got the worst short-term memory issues that I've ever seen

And no, not the way you use it it isn't

Yes, I'm afraid that many of the democrats lie as much or more than trump. Differences is that trump doesn't care if he's obvious about it because in his mind at the time is the truth. So people kind of Snicker and let him carry on. How many times for example did Biden say that trump claimed there would be blood in the streets? I was a blatant lie that he knew was false. And that's one of a billion examples, it became a running joke. If trump said He shot an eagle on the 9th hole the media would say he shot nine bald eagles

And in fact his fentanyl claims aren't grounded in reality. There's a significant question about whether or not we should be responsible for his border failures, and it's obvious that the Canadian connection is far less than some of the other sources, but yes that's an old does absolutely come across the Canadian border into America. They busted several absolutely massive major fentanyl laps in Canada

And it is extremely obvious that he's saying what he thinks when he talks about who's going to win the Canadian election, the rest is just derangement in your head

All of my arguments have been intelligent junior. I'm mocking your childish responses.

And he doesn't give a flying F about whether or not it's a conservative or a liberal government in Canada. He wants to Annex Canada. All he cares about is how easy or hard it's going to be to get there. He thinks maybe it might be easier under a liberal government but he doesn't care

Again you've got him playing some sort of 4D Mastermind chess and it's just not happening

And juveniles get juvenile insults.

Your entire position is childish. You're so worked up that maybe trump might have suggested something that you perceive as being negative about the liberals and you are literally losing your crap over it. Like I said if I was the liberals I would seize on that and say look even trump thinks we're a better choice to deal with him.

But because you lose all objectivity when you feel your tribe is being challenged and your echo chamber threatened you set that aside and are making the most insane and irrational statements

Nor would he if you think about it for 2 seconds. All he cares about is taking over Canada and how to get that done easily and honestly he thinks it doesn't matter who's in charge he'll win in the end anyway which is 100% exactly how you'd expect him to think because he's trump

Go have a cookie and a nap. It's getting painful watching you again

[Gaétan]

The media say that the Chinese, the Hindus, the Russians and who else influence Canada's democratic elections, but in my opinion it is the cia that decides who will form the government.

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The media say that the Chinese, the Hindus, the Russians and who else influence Canada's democratic elections, but in my opinion it is the cia that decides who will form the government.

Well given the last 10 years they must hate us very much. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Another awkward foreign policy story for Poilievre to address. In fairness, interference of this type will be a potential challenge in every Canadian election henceforth:

Quote

Agents of India and their proxies allegedly meddled in the 2022 election of Pierre Poilievre as Conservative Party Leader as part of a larger effort to cozy up to politicians of all parties, according to a source with top-secret clearance.

The source said the Canadian Security Intelligence Service learned that Indian agents were involved in raising money and organizing within the South Asian community for Mr. Poilievre during the leadership race, which he won handily. But the CSIS assessment did not indicate that this effort was done in a sweeping and highly organized way, the source said. Mr. Poilievre won on the first ballot with 68 per cent of the vote.

CSIS also did not have evidence that Mr. Poilievre or members of his inner circle were aware of the alleged actions of India’s agents and their proxies, said the source, who has national security clearance to see top secret reports.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-india-alleged-foreign-interference-pierre-poilievre-conservative/

 

 

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Another awkward foreign policy story for Poilievre to address. In fairness, interference of this type will be a potential challenge in every Canadian election henceforth:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-india-alleged-foreign-interference-pierre-poilievre-conservative/

 

 

He did address it.  Spectacularly. Now carney has some questions to answer. 

Poilievre presses Carney's China ties after India report | National Post

The report makes it clear that none of the candidates would have known they were being targeted and that the results were not impacted. So it's a nothing story

In the meantime it apparently turns out that carney, working on behalf of the Canadian government, visited china and walked away with a three-quarter billion dollar loan for his company. A company he still has massive investment in.

That story is going to probably have a little bit more in the way of legs

[SpankyMcFarland]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He did address it.  Spectacularly. Now carney has some questions to answer. 

Poilievre presses Carney's China ties after India report | National Post

The report makes it clear that none of the candidates would have known they were being targeted and that the results were not impacted. So it's a nothing story

In the meantime it apparently turns out that carney, working on behalf of the Canadian government, visited china and walked away with a three-quarter billion dollar loan for his company. A company he still has massive investment in.

That story is going to probably have a little bit more in the way of legs

That’s raising another accusation, not addressing the one against him. 

[TreeBeard]

338Canada updated.   It’s a bloodbath in the polls….   
 

PP needs to put forward ideas.   What can he do to turn it around?   To appeal to normal Canadians, and not anti-vax, WEF conspiracy loonies?  Because, as much as those are popular with posters here, normal Canadians are turned off by those things.  

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

That’s raising another accusation, not addressing the one against him. 

No, he addressed the ones to him very specifcally

I take it you didn't read the post and just replied because 'tribal"  

He pointed out the commissions found the parties targeted would have had no knowledge, that it was ineffective and disorganized and that even his opponents like brown have come forward and said it was a fair and square win. 

THEN pointed out that carney has a massive massive conflict of interest and is not in any position to question anyone else's 'interference' issues. 

C'mon man. I provided it directly, it's not a long read, you gotta do SOME of the work i'm not going to read it to you every time   

18 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

338Canada updated.   It’s a bloodbath in the polls….   
 

PP needs to put forward ideas.   What can he do to turn it around?   To appeal to normal Canadians, and not anti-vax, WEF conspiracy loonies?  Because, as much as those are popular with posters here, normal Canadians are turned off by those things.  

 

He has put forward many normal ideas. Just ask mark carney, he's been stealing them all  

And the only thing he has to put forward to win the election is going to be mark carney at this stage. The guy is spending half his time explaining the gaffes he makes the other half of the time

In this gig if you were explaining you're losing

[cougar]

On 3/22/2025 at 12:26 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

Just ask yourself how many Trumps could any economy afford and you begin to get a measure of his abilities. 

You may as well marvel about the ingenuity of those East Indian scumbags who stole a pallet of gold from Pearson Airport.  The gold is still not recovered and the mastermind is back in India with his wife.

Just ask yourself how many such scumbags can our economy afford.

Then you get a measure of what brain farts you can produce!

[SpankyMcFarland]

49 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, he addressed the ones to him very specifcally

I take it you didn't read the post and just replied because 'tribal"  

He pointed out the commissions found the parties targeted would have had no knowledge, that it was ineffective and disorganized and that even his opponents like brown have come forward and said it was a fair and square win. 

THEN pointed out that carney has a massive massive conflict of interest and is not in any position to question anyone else's 'interference' issues. 

C'mon man. I provided it directly, it's not a long read, you gotta do SOME of the work i'm not going to read it to you every time   

He has put forward many normal ideas. Just ask mark carney, he's been stealing them all  

And the only thing he has to put forward to win the election is going to be mark carney at this stage. The guy is spending half his time explaining the gaffes he makes the other half of the time

In this gig if you were explaining you're losing

Are you referring to the NP article link you posted in your reply to me? Because nearly all of it is about Carney. I don’t see Brown referenced there at all and the article does not necessarily clear Poilievre. And his reply is comparing chalk with cheese. 

Edited March 26 by SpankyMcFarland

[TreeBeard]

Libs projected to win seats in Alberta….  let that soak in.  
 

Can PP do anything to right the Con ship?  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Libs projected to win seats in Alberta….  let that soak in.  
 

Can PP do anything to right the Con ship?  

See you on voting day big guy  

[SpankyMcFarland]

This is seriously bad news for Poilievre. Once again, Trump offers a noose rather than a lifeline for his conservative comrade:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/federal-election/article-carney-calls-trumps-tariffs-on-vehicles-imported-to-us-unjustified/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/article/tariff-for-tariff-doug-ford-says-he-supports-retaliatory-tariffs-in-light-of-trumps-25-per-cent-auto-levy/