What More Of A Disgrace To Canadian Democracy Then An Unelected Taking The PM Chair?

[Political Smash]

 

 If Crash and Burn Carney (I find it obvious he advocates for Canada to crash and burn with his so called advice to Trudeau for years now) takes the liberal leadership, an election needs to be immediately called so Canadians can elect their next Prime Minister as opposed to allowing these radical infiltrators of our government to install a severely regressive unelected individual. Sickening these compulsive obsessive liars try to push on the public through a liberally guided severely corrupted media that this guy taking the leadership would close the gap to Pierre. The lies never end with these pathetic excuses for Canadians.

 

 I have been extremely ill lately.

 

 FYI Thursday Jan. 30^th I sent President Trump the following after hearing that tariffs were going to be applied to Canada Feb 1st.

 

President Trump, 

 

 Really, you're going to tariff Canada on my birthday? Can't you tell that radicals infiltrating positions of Canadian power are deliberately out to destroy Canada for WEF sociopaths? Could you at least wait until we have an election? Thanks for your time and consideration from a soon to be 54 year old concerned Canadian.

 

love

 

Primary Factual Fundamentalist

World Class Activist

David Jeffrey Spetch

Owen Sound Ontario Canada

Ps. Be good, be strong!

[Barquentine]

No disgrace at all. Just one aspect of our system. We elect parties, not prime ministers. The winning party can choose whoever they want for "Prime" minister. However it is very important for that person to get into the Commons (if they aren't there already) to answer the opposition's questions.

Sorry you're feeling ill and hope you get better soon.

[Aristides]

John Turner and Mackenzie King both served time as PM without a seat. New party leaders are often without a seat until a by election can be held. They just can’t sit in parliament until they get a seat.

[Army Guy]

23 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

No disgrace at all. Just one aspect of our system. We elect parties, not prime ministers. The winning party can choose whoever they want for "Prime" minister. However it is very important for that person to get into the Commons (if they aren't there already) to answer the opposition's questions.

Sorry you're feeling ill and hope you get better soon.

I see you've meet the local racist/ redneck....But he does have a point we do elect people, there is a name on the ballot, along with a party name....those that are in government have been elected by their electoral sector for a lack of the right word...Carney was not elected by anyone yet, he is currently by his own admission receiving government insiders information, about a wide variety of topics he is even giving advice or direction to those liberals involved in trade talks...not that justin is any help here...

Edited February 13 by Army Guy

[Barquentine]

And who knows - maybe Freeland will win. Trump doesn't like her so she must have done something right.

[Aristides]

11 hours ago, Barquentine said:

And who knows - maybe Freeland will win. Trump doesn't like her so she must have done something right.

I think she is qualified but I don't think Liberals have forgiven her for the way she turned on Trudeau. They also know that to have a chance in the next election, they can't choose someone who was so close to Trudeau and such a part of his policies.

[Aristides]

Provincially , Christie Clark didn't have a seat  in the legislature when she was made party leader and became premier. A sitting MLA in a safe seat had to step down so a bye election could be held for her.

[ExFlyer]

14 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I see you've meet the local racist/ redneck....But he does have a point we do elect people, there is a name on the ballot, along with a party name....those that are in government have been elected by their electoral sector for a lack of the right word...Carney was not elected by anyone yet, he is currently by his own admission receiving government insiders information, about a wide variety of topics he is even giving advice or direction to those liberals involved in trade talks...not that justin is any help here...

He will not be elected by the time he is leader and he will also not have a seat in government and able to vote or speak  on anything official.

He will not have been the first (or last) party leader not to have a seat.

Having said that, there will not be any sitting of parliament till after the election anyway so, the point and discussion is moot.

[herbie]

Look South. Gerald Ford wasn't elected either.
And contrary to what some pinheads believe a PM does not rule by decree. The Party decides, not just the leader.

[SpankyMcFarland]

I presume Carney won’t be without a seat for long. In Britain, members of the House of Lords have been ministers before eg David Cameron. 

[Shady]

Our country and system of government is a joke.  Parliament is completely shut down, so that one political party can decide on who its next leader is going to be.  Imagine Republicans shutting down congress while they decide on a leader.  It’s so absurd.

[herbie]

Or imagine Congress so chickenshit they fear to even criticize their chosen leader. That's what's f*cked up. On top of a leader who decides and enacts laws without their consent, that's really f*cked up.

You're claiming a Party that CAN say to the leader you're so f*cking unpopular we're  choosing a new one is the one that's absurd.

Edited February 14 by herbie

[Legato]

12 minutes ago, herbie said:

You're claiming a Party that CAN say to the leader you're so f*cking unpopular we're  choosing a new one is the one that's absurd.

Choosing? As if that is taking place? A pretense in an attempt to be seen to be above board.

The circus guy was picked weeks ago.

[herbie]

The one with the most business and economic experience isn't chosen yer.
Not that you'd even be interested in having a choice, you aren't a Liberal.
And neither am I, but I don't complain about not choosing their leader for them.

[eyeball]

On 2/12/2025 at 6:35 PM, Barquentine said:

However it is very important for that person to get into the Commons (if they aren't there already) to answer the opposition's questions.

I suppose, but there's a reason why they don't call Question Period Answer Period

It would still be a bunch of hooey in either case.

[Barquentine]

14 hours ago, Shady said:

Parliament is completely shut down

14 hours ago, Shady said:

one political party can decide on who its next leader is going to be

 

The Tories had shut down parliament for months before the prorogue. They didn't care then.

And yes, that's how our system works.

 

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, Barquentine said:

The Tories had shut down parliament for months before the prorogue. They didn't care then.

And yes, that's how our system works.

 

Sure they cared. And they tried to have confidence motion several times only to be shot down by the NDP. The government of the day could have unjammed that in 2 seconds by providing the information that they were supposed to, let's remember the only reason the conservatives were able to cause that jam is because the house speaker had instructed the liberals to provide documents and they had refused. That's what allowed the conservatives to hold up parliament

So to try to pretend it was the conservatives is laughable and cheap.

[Barquentine]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

the conservatives is laughable and cheap.

Could be Poilevre's new slogan.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Could be Poilevre's new slogan.

Wow. Your emotional immaturity and lack of self esteem is so bad that you actually deliberately misquoting me because you can't cope with some simple facts     That's where the left and it's remaining supporters are at is it?  

LOL   We're going to eat you alive in the next election  

Although while carney is still dropping hints that he's going to go as soon as he's confirmed as liberal leader i suspect he's still thinking about buying himself another year and a  half. 

 

[Barquentine]

Aw, hell, I couldn't resist. That was funny. Poilievre could have seen the documents. But he didn't want to get a ruling on it. He just wanted to score quick political points.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Aw, hell, I couldn't resist.

Sure. i guess when you've got nothing else, childish twatery is the left's go to most of the time. It distracts from the fact you have no argument and aren't man enough to just cope with that. Lying about what other people said is defintely a left wing staple around here,

And no, you're mistaken. The libs were ordered to turn it over and didn't.  The fault is 100 percent there's. The conservatives had already asked the speaker to rule and he had in their favour and the libs were already ignoring that. 
 

But thats another common leftist trait isn't it.  Blaming the right and others for their own crimes or incompetence. 

[Barquentine]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The conservatives had already asked the speaker to rule and he had in their favour and the libs were already ignoring that.

You should actually do research and not just work off the headlines.

[WestCanMan]

The Libs are in the same position as the Dems down south: they're out of serious candidates right now.

Their problem is that the liberal media in our countries thought that they were helping the Libs/Dems by just backing everything they said and did, no matter how corrupt or frivolous it was, and then waving the pom-poms harder and harder every time the lefties went further into trans-kookery and DEI drivel, so the leftist politicians have become a parody from a bad Adam Sandler movie, while the conservatives have taken ownership of all the serious issues.

If you see a politician on TV trying to convince you that we need to spend billions on something outrageously stupid you don't have to guess what party they're in, you just have to know which side of the border they're on. 

[Aristides]

On 2/14/2025 at 5:51 AM, Shady said:

Our country and system of government is a joke.  Parliament is completely shut down, so that one political party can decide on who its next leader is going to be.  Imagine Republicans shutting down congress while they decide on a leader.  It’s so absurd.

Congress has made itself irrelevant, Trump rules the US now, only the courts are holding him back.

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You should actually do research and not just work off the headlines.

In June, the Conservatives introduced a motion demanding that the government turn over all SDTC documents to the Commons law clerk within 30 days. The clerk, in turn, would turn over those files to the RCMP for a possible criminal investigation into this troubled fund.

MPs passed the motion before rising for the summer break.

Not all of the government's documents were handed over to the clerk by the specified deadline.

That led Conservative MP Andrew Scheer, the party's House leader, to claim in September that parliamentary privilege had been violated because the government was not complying with a clear directive approved by MPs.

Speaker Greg Fergus agreed the documents should be produced, even if it would set an unusual precedent because MPs are requesting documents in order to hand them over to a third party — in this case, the police.

 

 

 

 

 

Speaker of the House of Commons Greg Fergus has suggested the matter be referred to a Commons committee for study. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

"The House has the undoubted right to order the production of any and all documents from any entity or individual it deems necessary to carry out its duties," Fergus said.

"The House has clearly ordered the production of certain documents, and that order has clearly not been fully complied with."

Fergus said he "cannot come to any other conclusion but to find that a prima facie question of privilege has been established."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sdtc-explainer-1.7347506