NAME REMOVED Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 6 hours ago, Barquentine said: What socialist regime? because we have health care, old age security, etc...? The U.S. has medicaid, social security, food stamps, etc... What keeps Trump up at night is probably his bowels. Mcdonald's every day'll do that. Betsy has never heard of Europe, where many Governments are social democratic, and enjoy some of the highest standards of living in the World. 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 4 hours ago, blackbird said: Canada, under the Liberal left/NDP, is more Socialist, progressive, woke, authoritarian and Marxist. That would bother Trump, but I don't think it would keep him up at night. The border has been wide open under Trudeau all along. You have no idea what you are talking about. 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 17 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: The border has been wide open under Trudeau all along How was the border different under Harper? 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: And the thing is, the NDP gets a lot more support at the provincial level. I wonder why that is. Maybe something akin to how midterm elections in the US turn out is at work. When federal governments lean right do provincial voters lean left - and vice versa when things go the other way? Like counterweights balancing things out. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, suds said: It means you put the good of the country ahead of everything else. It's why we're in the mess we're in now. The exact opposite of putting one's own self interest first, or Party first, or ideology first. or just plain stuck on stupid. You're expecting the impossible. How can anyone who seeks public office avoid not putting themselves first on their road to power? This dilemma could best be addressed by governing ourselves with citizen's assemblies - where representatives are essentially drafted and vetted like jurors. With no strings attached right from the get go. Political parties should be afforded no more status, importance or influence than a social club. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
I am Groot Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The whole Trump shit-show really played into CBC's hand. They were able to showcase Trudeau as a defender of Canada, and there's no law saying that they had to admit that Trudeau caved to Trump's demands. When election time comes, can Canadians really vote for an MP that followed Trudeau around like a sick puppy for ten years? I dunno. Seems kinda revolting. NO. They will vote for a completely new OUTSIDER who has absolutely NOTHING to do with Liberal policies over the past ten years even though he's spoken approvingly of them many times except to say they should be even stronger. 2 hours ago, Aristides said: The last time it went over four years was 1993. Canada first is a nice slogan but what does it mean? Maybe it means don't give money to gender ecology farming training in Nigeria while people are freezing to death on our streets? Quote
eyeball Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The whole Trump shit-show really played into CBC's hand. They were able to showcase Trudeau as a defender of Canada, and there's no law saying that they had to admit that Trudeau caved to Trump's demands. What on Earth would such a law look like - what would you call it and how would it be worded? Something like a Fairness Doctrine perhaps? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: Something like a Fairness Doctrine perhaps? Implementing the fairness doctrine should be a priority. Look at what happened to American when Reagan eliminated it in 1986- FOX was born. As an added bonus, it would make these "Independent" media sources like Rebel News, True North, etc. disappear. Quote
Aristides Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 1 hour ago, suds said: It means you put the good of the country ahead of everything else. It's why we're in the mess we're in now. The exact opposite of putting one's own self interest first, or Party first, or ideology first. or just plain stuck on stupid. Everyone has their own idea of what is good for country. It is just a slogan until you get specific about what it means to you. Quote
eyeball Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 11 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Implementing the fairness doctrine should be a priority. Yes it should but I doubt very much that's what WCM has in mind. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
herbie Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 There's no need for CBC to showcase Trudeau as a defender of Canada. He's a Trudeau so regardless of how much you dislike the guy, any mention he does not have Canada's best interests in mind is slanderous and a bold faced lie. Typical of a disgruntled alt-right whiner. 1 3 Quote
eyeball Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 17 minutes ago, herbie said: There's no need for CBC to showcase Trudeau as a defender of Canada. He's a Trudeau so regardless of how much you dislike the guy, any mention he does not have Canada's best interests in mind is slanderous and a bold faced lie. Typical of a disgruntled alt-right whiner. Trudeau probably felt much the same way about that biatch Jody Wilson-Raybould. The gall of the woman. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 hour ago, herbie said: There's no need for CBC to showcase Trudeau as a defender of Canada. He's a Trudeau so regardless of how much you dislike the guy, any mention he does not have Canada's best interests in mind is slanderous and a bold faced lie. Typical of a disgruntled alt-right whiner. OMG, what a pathetic little fanboy you are. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 hour ago, herbie said: There's no need for CBC to showcase Trudeau as a defender of Canada. He's a Trudeau so regardless of how much you dislike the guy, any mention he does not have Canada's best interests in mind is slanderous and a bold faced lie. Typical of a disgruntled alt-right whiner. The Trudeau's are very loyal to Canada, unlike PP, who is a Trump boot-licker. 1 2 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 8 hours ago, suds said: It means you put the good of the country ahead of everything else. It's why we're in the mess we're in now. The exact opposite of putting one's own self interest first, or Party first, or ideology first. or just plain stuck on stupid. Trudeau believes that what is good for him personally is what's best for Canada Because he is best for Canada. Ha ha! Where is your god now?!! Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: The Trudeau's are very loyal to Canada, unlike PP, who is a Trump boot-licker. The Trudeaus are loyal enough to Eastern Canada to get votes, but their hatred for Alberta has never been hidden. They've done more damage to the Alberta economy than every other PM combined. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The Trudeaus are loyal enough to Eastern Canada to get votes, but their hatred for Alberta has never been hidden. They've done more damage to the Alberta economy than every other PM combined. lol. Oh WCM. You rascal. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 (edited) 14 hours ago, herbie said: There's no need for CBC to showcase Trudeau as a defender of Canada. He's a Trudeau so regardless of how much you dislike the guy, any mention he does not have Canada's best interests in mind is slanderous and a bold faced lie. Typical of a disgruntled alt-right whiner. Yeah Trudeau is your saviour. Set up an alter with his photo entitled dictator for life. The Trudeau Liberals have achieved the seemingly impossible by being both soft and naive AND oppressive. They overspend and tell weak-minded people how they should think, which is basically to embrace false anti-Canadian equity rhetoric. It’s gross and irresponsible and you love it. Edited February 9 by Zeitgeist Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 The gap between Liberal and conservatives in the polls will diminish. I think the Liberals will gain a lot of support when Trudeau steps down. I still think the conservatives will win but not with the margin they are now polling.will Problem is that for years PP is a one trick pony...he has had the "axe the tax" message and nothing else and even the liberal contenders are now saying they will also "axe the tax". PP's thunder has left the building.. PP has to get out and make folks want him as a leader for the whole country and a plan for more than just getting rid of carbon tax. He has to speak to all Canada and not preach in french while in the West. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
I am Groot Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: The gap between Liberal and conservatives in the polls will diminish. I think the Liberals will gain a lot of support when Trudeau steps down. I still think the conservatives will win but not with the margin they are now polling.will Problem is that for years PP is a one trick pony...he has had the "axe the tax" message and nothing else and even the liberal contenders are now saying they will also "axe the tax". PP's thunder has left the building.. Poilievre has had a lot to say about a lot of things that are unrelated to carbon taxes. Including cutting immigration, freeing up our natural resource sector, rebuilding the military, and reigning in crime. And the Liberals are not getting rid of the carbon tax. Carney's plan is to hide it by shifting it onto industries and business so that people merely pay it secondhand through higher prices - without the rebates. As for driving industry out of Canada or into bankruptcy, his plan it to start a tariff war with the US, China, Mexico, and India, among others. Not that I think Carney actually cares about Canadian companies being driven bankrupt. He's on record (and video) as saying with some degree of satisfaction that industries and businesses that don't get with the green program will be forced into bankruptcy. And while he's been doing his best to destroy the oil and gas industry in Canada his company has been actively investing in oil and gas in Nigeria. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 minute ago, I am Groot said: And the Liberals are not getting rid of the carbon tax. Carney's plan is to hide it by shifting it onto industries and business so that people merely pay it secondhand through higher prices - That's precisely what Poilievre has in mind as well. And it will cost Canadians even more than the carbon tax. What Poilievre is not talking about is that he really doesn't give a shit about AGW. Putting the tax on industry and scrapping the carbon tax is just virtue signalling no different than Carney's. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: The gap between Liberal and conservatives in the polls will diminish. I think the Liberals will gain a lot of support when Trudeau steps down. I still think the conservatives will win but not with the margin they are now polling.will Problem is that for years PP is a one trick pony...he has had the "axe the tax" message and nothing else and even the liberal contenders are now saying they will also "axe the tax". PP's thunder has left the building.. PP has to get out and make folks want him as a leader for the whole country and a plan for more than just getting rid of carbon tax. He has to speak to all Canada and not preach in french while in the West. I honestly think the Liberals will win again. Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives are brain dead, mimicking Trump-like populism, and copying slogans from MAGA (Canada First, etc). Trump has been making threats about annexing Canada, and he is universally despised to the point people boo the American anthem. All Carney and the Liberals have to do, is run on an anti-Trump campaign, and they will probably win. Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 29 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: I honestly think the Liberals will win again. Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives are brain dead, mimicking Trump-like populism, and copying slogans from MAGA (Canada First, etc). Trump has been making threats about annexing Canada, and he is universally despised to the point people boo the American anthem. All Carney and the Liberals have to do, is run on an anti-Trump campaign, and they will probably win. Geez, I hope not LOL My point is, PP , contrary to others here, is riding on the "axe the tax" coat tails. While, as someone else has said, he has said a lot, fact is, his "axe the tax" is his over riding mantra, making him, in my mind, hiding everything else he may be saying. He has to get with this country and what he is going to do besides axing the tax. He has to speak about international affairs and how he is going heal Canada very poor reputation. Anti Trump is not going to win the election. Working with Trump has to be the platform. Like it or not, Trump has the power and he and his followers could care less about Canada. When Trudeau said he will also hit the US with tariffs, he said many things will have tariffs, including things we desperately need like fruits and veggies....even Trump saw he needs oil and reduced the tariffs on that. People booing the American anthem is hugely disrespectful; It should not have anything to do with the politics, it is their (and our) anthem, beyond politics. And yes, they booed our anthem...because we booed theirs. The Americans in general like Canadian but when we hit at their nationalism, they get pissed and it is us that will lose. They will back Trump even more. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Army Guy Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 16 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: The Trudeau's are very loyal to Canada, unlike PP, who is a Trump boot-licker. How so, i mean if your in love with this family please explain to us what this loyalty gave this nation...other than free pot...it's your turn ... 2 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: Poilievre has had a lot to say about a lot of things that are unrelated to carbon taxes. Including cutting immigration, freeing up our natural resource sector, rebuilding the military, and reigning in crime. And the Liberals are not getting rid of the carbon tax. Carney's plan is to hide it by shifting it onto industries and business so that people merely pay it secondhand through higher prices - without the rebates. As for driving industry out of Canada or into bankruptcy, his plan it to start a tariff war with the US, China, Mexico, and India, among others. Not that I think Carney actually cares about Canadian companies being driven bankrupt. He's on record (and video) as saying with some degree of satisfaction that industries and businesses that don't get with the green program will be forced into bankruptcy. And while he's been doing his best to destroy the oil and gas industry in Canada his company has been actively investing in oil and gas in Nigeria. Many of the investment properties and companies he has been working with for years now are outside of Canada and will benefit if Canadian businesses begin to fail in many circumstances. You think there isn't a reason he's buying oil pipelines in South America but demanding the Canada not produce oil? One thing I do know is campaigns matter. And the shine tends to come off a candidate very quickly during a campaign. Poilievre is definitely an excellent campaigner. He's also got a lot of money which the liberals do not right now and you can bet that even as we speak they are stockpiling tons of ads about Carney and things he said in the past and problems with what he's proposing now and will flood social media and the airwaves when he is elected Leader. They will keep their powder dry until it's obvious that there is about to be an election, because there's no point spending all your money if the liberals won't end up doing a deal with the NDP to push the election back Quote
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