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Posted
18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

In the context of using Woke as the issue and means of our destruction.

The fact you people even capitalize the word now speaks volumes about how desperate you are to change the channel back to where it was.

That's conservatism for you....driving with your gaze fixed wistfully on the rear view mirror.

Trump's arrival when Trudeau is leaving is changing everything.

PP's floundering in the face of the swiftly moving circumstances attending this says a lot about the most important skill set he's not bringing to the job he's applying for...thinking on the fly...adapting to things in the certain confident manner the circumstances call for.

Mind you it shouldn't take a genius to put Trump in his place.

Is PP still flogging the carbon tax horse that died under him?

Listen to carney? He started it again.lol

Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

Posted
13 minutes ago, GroundskeeperWillie said:

Still crying about PP, huh?

Laughing. Stop channeling CdnFox.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
2 minutes ago, PIK said:

Listen to carney? He started it again.lol

Yup. Lol is the operative word here.

Just now, GroundskeeperWillie said:

Is CdnFox another person that you cry about?

Only when I'm laughing.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
14 minutes ago, GroundskeeperWillie said:

So you laugh as someone punishes your butt?

Not as hard as I'm laughing now 🤣

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
51 minutes ago, PIK said:

Listen to carney? He started it again.lol

indeed

the Liberals keep invoking Identity Group v. Identity Group as the basis of governance

while calling it "Inclusiveness" in Orwellian fashion

then they play the victim, crying about "fascism"

only victims of their own schemes to divide & conquer ; blowing up in their faces therein

Posted
37 minutes ago, GroundskeeperWillie said:

Is it because I am punishing your butt

Not anymore given your sudden weird focus on my butt.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
6 hours ago, herbie said:

There you go again quoting the same everybody that Trump hears in his head

You have no idea what trump hears in his head. And what you hear in your own head is the numerous voices whom I've told you are not your friends.

A simple glance around the world can see that everybody's fed up with the woke. In fact speaking of trump the only reason that the US has trump in power right now is because people are sick of the woke. People have had enough. The sick of people like you demanding that we have free drugs that are turned over to the criminals to sell to our children all will you demand that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a terrible person.

The work is broke. And now you're just a joke.

Posted
17 hours ago, GroundskeeperWillie said:

You know fully well what people mean by woke.  But keep asking questions like this to detract you from the fact that most people are fed up with it.  You probably think you are being a good debater, haha.

Yes, I know it means being aware of systemic injustices. Why are you fed up with people being aware of systemic injustice? Isn’t that their right in a free society?

Posted
16 hours ago, eyeball said:

Not anymore given your sudden weird focus on my butt.

pull your head out of the sand and you would not have to worry about your butt....

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
58 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Yes, I know it means being aware of systemic injustices. Why are you fed up with people being aware of systemic injustice? Isn’t that their right in a free society?

Thats what history classes are for, Justin has said sorry to every group on the planet, it is time to treat every the same, thats how we stop racism. You can't change the past...only the future. And feeling the need to wallow in the past is not a right, not in the law, or constitution of any free society...

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We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Yes, I know it means being aware of systemic injustices. Why are you fed up with people being aware of systemic injustice? Isn’t that their right in a free society?

it has more to do with demanding than others obey your perception of what you think are systemic injustices whether they exist or not.

Wow, the guy hasn't been on the board for more than a few weeks and he's already shooting you down Chrissy :) 

Posted
18 hours ago, eyeball said:

But you say it's from the liberal parties..

So like which parties and how many are you talking about? Or do you mean liberals partying?

It seems you're just connecting a bunch of disparate partisan feelings and impressions of your own into something cogent.  You think examples like this is what PP means when he talks about what's woke? You figure this is the winning formula  will sway Canadians into remaining or going back to being comatose?

Good luck with it.

Hey, big falla, you asked for a picture of what they/ them looks like....i gave you one....And conservatives don't buy into the whole they/ them, ze/ zur what ever thats a liberal thing....This is what liberalism looks like...i did not invent it you guys created it and now we all have to live with it. 

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We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted
17 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Hey, big falla, you asked for a picture of what they/ them looks like....i gave you one....And conservatives don't buy into the whole they/ them, ze/ zur what ever thats a liberal thing....This is what liberalism looks like...i did not invent it you guys created it and now we all have to live with it. 

Creators of Woke......

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Posted
35 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Hey, big falla, you asked for a picture of what they/ them looks like....i gave you one....And conservatives don't buy into the whole they/ them, ze/ zur what ever thats a liberal thing....This is what liberalism looks like...i did not invent it you guys created it and now we all have to live with it. 

So that's it - the image you provided is the gist of what PP will be basing his campaign on? When people ask what he means by woke this video is what people will be given?

Good luck.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
On 2/5/2025 at 7:19 PM, Michael Hardner said:

What he should have said is: the culture wars are divisive and pointless. 

Let's move on.

Instead, the strong implication is "I'm on the side of woke and I will fight to the death to ensure merit has no place in hiring, promotion, appointments, grants or anything else in this country!"

On 2/6/2025 at 12:19 AM, Moonbox said:

All he did was acknowledge that Carney could have worded it better.   

It seemed to me he suggested Carney meant he wanted to end the culture wars. But that's not what it sounded like to me at all. It sounded like a stolid insistence on maintaining the Left side's fight in the culture wars.

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Posted
On 2/6/2025 at 6:31 AM, Michael Hardner said:

The problem is that politics is more than winning elections. 

Big problems need deep thinking, and collaboration with the public as well as experts. 

Slogans don't solve big problems.

No, but they help win elections. God knows Trudeau used populism in all his election wins, and rarely followed through on his promises.

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Posted
20 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

They cannot refute people in a legitimate argument, so they have to make up imaginary words, like "woke" 

The Left made up the term to describe how noble and enlightened they were.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Yes, I know it means being aware of systemic injustices. Why are you fed up with people being aware of systemic injustice? Isn’t that their right in a free society?

In the context of the government, it means pretending every governmental institution is 'systemically racist', despite there being no evidence of this. It means tilting the playing field in favor of every group other than straight white males - tilting it more depending on how high on the hierarchy of victimhood various identity groups are, and allocating resources to them ahead of others, including hiring, promotions, awards and grants. As well as requiring all people and organizations bow to the same social justice view or face governmental punishment. 

It means giving preference in applications, be it for awards, grants, jobs, or university admission to people whose skin color is not white to somehow or other recognize this 'racism' even though the great majority of them were either not born in Canada, or are children of first-generation immigrants. This was and is a moronic policy in the US but at least they could claim they were trying to make it up to blacks for slavery, segregation, etc. There is no excuse here but the Left simply lifted the whole social justice framework from their progressive American counterparts and plunked it down here.

Posted (edited)
On 2/5/2025 at 7:11 PM, Aristides said:

Of course he never said any such thing. He said that while Americans engage in a war on woke, Canadians will continue to value the truth.

Anyone got a problem with that?

That is not what he said. He said "There is a fever gripping America. And while it rages, Canadians will continue to remain true to our values. While America engages in a war on woke, Canadians will continue to value inclusiveness.

In other words, Canadian values involve 'inclusiveness'. And the problem with that word is that it is inextricably bound up in DEI and has become a statement in itself that means "We're going to go well out of our way to hire/promote/enroll/give grants and recognition to anyone other than straight white people. Screw merit. We make all decisions based on identity group membership."

That is NOT a Canadian value. It is left LIBERAL value. It is an NDP value. 

It is also, btw, a sneer at Trump and his party. Is that really wise? If he intends being prime minister, is it a good idea to start by publicly sneering at a central part of their ideology? For what reason? Just to virtue signal?

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Posted
28 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

  I will fight to the death to ensure merit has no place in hiring, promotion, appointments, grants or anything else in this country!"

You're believing propaganda. 

I don't think we can talk about this anymore. I work in corporate and I see a great benefit in the utter death of the old boys club. Managers that I work for in the 1980s would not be able to work in our environment today.  Those guys couldn't have worked for an Indian woman without shooting their mouth off, I guarantee it.

25 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

No, but they help win elections. God knows Trudeau used populism in all his election wins, and rarely followed through on his promises.

Very good point. It was an old er kind of populism, based on a national meme that we're super kind, polite people. People. I'm not sure that we are anyway, and I never liked the way the Liberals won elections... Ever.

Posted
27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You're believing propaganda. 

I don't think we can talk about this anymore. I work in corporate and I see a great benefit in the utter death of the old boys club. Managers that I work for in the 1980s would not be able to work in our environment today.  Those guys couldn't have worked for an Indian woman without shooting their mouth off, I guarantee it.

And what are the odds that an Indian manager today would hire a white man if they could hire an Indian?

27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Very good point. It was an old er kind of populism, based on a national meme that we're super kind, polite people. People. I'm not sure that we are anyway, and I never liked the way the Liberals won elections... Ever.

Sure, in the context of inciting class warfare. Remember that one of his main promises was to take more money from 'the rich' and give it to the middle class. Of course, he didn't actually take money from the rich but from the upper middle class. 

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