Black Dog Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Five of swords said: There is nothing that canada or Mexico could do that would cost the usa more money than they would be making on tariffs. Other than, perhaps, war. You can try that. I would enjoy seeing that. lmao enjoy paying an extra 25% for gas and groceries you dumb nazi f*ck. 1 Quote
Five of swords Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 41 minutes ago, Black Dog said: then why couldn't Trump do it the first time? It took circumstances beyond his control, namely a global pandemic, for him to get illegal immigration to the same levels as his predecessor. Because he didn't want to. But it is true...the task is not very hard. If I were dictator of the usa...I would consider this, for example: if we find someone who smuggled into the usa illegally, we will research who all of their relatives are in their home country all the way to first cousins. Them we well abduct them and force the person to skin all of them alive while we film the entire process. We then will force their home vountry to broadcast this entire ordeal to their own population as a warning of what happ3ns to people who enter the country illegally. Then the person who entered will be forced to work in slave labor until they finally die. I suspect that would substantially reduce illegal border crossings. Quote
Moonbox Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Five of swords said: There is nothing that canada or Mexico could do that would cost the usa more money than they would be making on tariffs. Tell us that you don't understand how the economy and how tariffs work without actually telling us. 🙄 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Aristides Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 15 minutes ago, Five of swords said: There is nothing that canada or Mexico could do that would cost the usa more money than they would be making on tariffs. Other than, perhaps, war. You can try that. I would enjoy seeing that. Tariffs mean they will be making it off of you. You honestly don’t know how tariffs work. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, Aristides said: Tariffs mean they will be making it off of you. You honestly don’t know how tariffs work. Doesn't know, and also doesn't care to know. Whatever the orange blob says is true. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
ironstone Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Aristides said: You are being a cringing wimp. You let someone like Trump insult and threaten us and are afraid to utter a peep in your own defence. Our current government allows protesters to chant 'death to Canada' on our own streets without fear of repercussion. They can freely insult and threaten us because they know the government is afraid to push back. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Five of swords Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 31 minutes ago, Aristides said: Tariffs mean they will be making it off of you. You honestly don’t know how tariffs work. I know exactly how they work.and no...it would have zero impact on me unless I am buying Canadian goods while in the usa. Which I would not need to do 44 minutes ago, Black Dog said: lmao enjoy paying an extra 25% for gas and groceries you dumb nazi f*ck. The usa makes more gas and food than the natives consume, bro. If the usa wanted to pay 1$ per gallon on gas they could simply lift sanctions on Iran lol. Canada doesn't matter. Quote
Aristides Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Five of swords said: I know exactly how they work.and no...it would have zero impact on me unless I am buying Canadian goods while in the usa. Which I would not need to do The usa makes more gas and food than the natives consume, bro. If the usa wanted to pay 1$ per gallon on gas they could simply lift sanctions on Iran lol. Canada doesn't matter. It isn’t just Canadian goods you buy, it is also goods made in the us that use Canadian suppliers. What the Orange blob doesn’t tell you is that if you take energy out of the picture, which you do need, the US actually has a 30 billion trade surplus with Canada. So you are going to buy oil from Iran who sponsors terrorists and pay more for it just to spite Canada. Maybe you should quit NATO and give up this leader of the free world bullshit. Many of your heavy oil refineries have only Canada to supply them because no one else is producing it and they have no pipelines to tidewater even if there was. Edited January 22 by Aristides Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: Ok we'll also make sure Santa doesn't come through as well, how about that. F*cking dolt. Is that all you've got? Weren't you the one complaining about not getting good dialogue here? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Trumps millions were actually 21,000 in the first 10 months of 2024. Most South Asians looking for better economic opportunities, not criminals and terrorists. But we do need to change our border policies, for us, not you. Trumps accusations of fentanyl imports from Canada amounted to 19.5 Kg in 2024 compared to over 9,000 kg from Mexico.Those are your own border agency numbers, not Canadian As usual Trump lies every time he opens his mouth and you just swallow it no questions asked. If it is mutually beneficial and avoids a tariff, why bot just do it? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Aristides Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: If it is mutually beneficial and avoids a tariff, why bot just do it? Why don’t you do something about guns and drugs coming across our border from the US. There has actually been a backlash over our governments immigration policies that had nothing to do with you or Trump. Quote
myata Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 Every time their bluff is called they are down to threats of what? Let's guess. It's not that difficult the one and default resort of all bullies. Canada didn't not initiate stupidity. It has nothing to answer for nor anyone in their sane senses to. So let's make the stupidity ratio count. The higher, the better. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 And by the way a reminder: U.S. politics have factually and officially crossed into the third world zone. This is what third world politics look and walk. This is what third world politics is. Done deal. Canada watch it closely: with a grossly outdated obsolete system, you aren't immune. 2 hours ago, Deluge said: America must be destroyed. Canada had nothing to do with the tariffs. Std? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Five of swords Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, Aristides said: It isn’t just Canadian goods you buy, it is also goods made in the us that use Canadian suppliers. What the Orange blob doesn’t tell you is that if you take energy out of the picture, which you do need, the US actually has a 30 billion trade surplus with Canada. So you are going to buy oil from Iran who sponsors terrorists and pay more for it just to spite Canada. Maybe you should quit NATO and give up this leader of the free world bullshit. Many of your heavy oil refineries have only Canada to supply them because no one else is producing it and they have no pipelines to tidewater even if there was. Raising wages also increases prices. Perhaps we can enslave black people again for the sake of your free world? And no...I didn't learn about what tariffs are from Trump. You make a lot of assumptions about my philosophy and education that are just stupid. Quote
Aristides Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Raising wages also increases prices. Perhaps we can enslave black people again for the sake of your free world? And no...I didn't learn about what tariffs are from Trump. You make a lot of assumptions about my philosophy and education that are just stupid. Your country if you want to bring back slavery. Trump is now hedging and saying he can’t guaranty tariffs won’t raise prices. Quote
Aristides Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 We had a recreational property in the US for nearly 30 years and after we sold it we would go to SoCal for 3 months every year. I used to laugh at people who said the US was the only country we really had to fear. I don’t laugh anymore and go to Mexico in the winter. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: The simple, cost effective, way to prevent tariffs is to enforce your borders. That's all we are asking. Stop letting terrorists into your country so they can invade ours. That's it. Not to hard. Says the guy who's country allows thousands of guns to cross ours. Literally over 90 percent of all guns used in a crime in canada come from the us. At any rate, they are taking actions to secure the border. But the fact is that the US actually has it pretty good with Canada as a trading partner, and it would not be in the US's interest to ruin that 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: Sorta like how Trump had the GOP kill the last Biden border deal? Face it both parties use the border as a political football. Yeah there was a massive backlog plus a lot of instability in South America driving the surge in numbers. No, you need to let the other guy know what you're prepared to do if they f*ck around. 1. True except one side is working FOR the people and the other was working AGAINST the people. 2. Fck the backlog. Brandon invited these millions here. It was dumb as sh1t. 3. Never let the other guy know what your thinking. See what happens and then formulate and appropriate reaction. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 33 minutes ago, Aristides said: Why don’t you do something about guns and drugs coming across our border from the US. There has actually been a backlash over our governments immigration policies that had nothing to do with you or Trump. Talk to the blie states up there. They don't enforce laws. Trump will definitely stop the export of drugs and guns if it's a real problem. The right has zero problems with enforcing those laws. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Five of swords Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Aristides said: Your country if you want to bring back slavery. Trump is now hedging and saying he can’t guaranty tariffs won’t raise prices. Sales tax also raises prices. Presumably the government uses this sort of income to benefit its citizens. Does it? And if not...then is the state legitimate? I know what tariffs are. And my only point was that Canada can't do shit that would disincentivize tariffs among the us ruling class. That specifically is a claim that is either true or false...and you have said nothing which suggests it is false. You are just crying about tariffs and don't even know if I am in favor of them or not...you are just assuming I am a Trump supporter, lol Edited January 22 by Five of swords Quote
Aristides Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Talk to the blie states up there. They don't enforce laws. Trump will definitely stop the export of drugs and guns if it's a real problem. The right has zero problems with enforcing those laws. Borders are a federal jurisdiction. Like hell he will. Individuals can buy all the guns they want in the US and then smuggle them into Canada. Quote
Five of swords Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: Borders are a federal jurisdiction. Like hell he will. Individuals can buy all the guns they want in the US and then smuggle them into Canada. Fact check false. Individuals cannot just smuggle guns into Canada lol. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Aristides said: Borders are a federal jurisdiction. Like hell he will. Individuals can buy all the guns they want in the US and then smuggle them into Canada. No. The borders are a law enforcement issue. Local, state and federal can enforce them. But what I'm talking about is our blue states not enforcing broken windows. Do you know what the broken windows theory is? Edited January 22 by gatomontes99 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Says the guy who's country allows thousands of guns to cross ours. Literally over 90 percent of all guns used in a crime in canada come from the us. At any rate, they are taking actions to secure the border. But the fact is that the US actually has it pretty good with Canada as a trading partner, and it would not be in the US's interest to ruin that It is also in Canada's best interest to not lose its largest trading partner. We can afford to lose you, can you afford to lose us? As for the guns issue, we don't enforce our laws well in blue states and the blue states happen to border with your largest cities. If the blue stats would get off their asś and put criminals in jail with real bail, the problem would ebb. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Deluge Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 1 hour ago, myata said: And by the way a reminder: U.S. politics have factually and officially crossed into the third world zone. This is what third world politics look and walk. This is what third world politics is. Done deal. Canada watch it closely: with a grossly outdated obsolete system, you aren't immune. Canada had nothing to do with the tariffs. Std? You're crying because Trump is taking this country out of the gutter. What is it with you open borders sluts? It seems the only time you're happy is when something goes bad for the US, and even then you're not happy, as you're still crying like little b*tches about something else. You're always crying. Why? Quote
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