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Army Guy Grand Master

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Does not matter who wins the liberal party leadership, it is only going to be temporary at the very least, no one is going to remember this point in history, 5 years from now....What they will remember is who was the worst PM ever....

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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CdnFox Grand Master

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Carney will win. The lib supporters are looking at him as a 'white knight' who will come across as  a great economics expert and save the party. 

He isn't and he won't but they believe he is and will and freeland is basically a gender bent trudeau, tied at the hip with all of his decisions. They might as well have run him as her. 

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August1991 Grand Master

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On 2/3/2025 at 4:07 AM, CdnFox said:

Carney will win. The lib supporters are looking at him as a 'white knight' who will come across as  a great economics expert and save the party. 

He isn't and he won't but they believe he is and will and freeland is basically a gender bent trudeau, tied at the hip with all of his decisions. They might as well have run him as her. 

I'm not so certain

I have not looked at the voting rules.

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If the federal Liberals think that Carney will become our next PM, they are totally delusional.

If the people in the federal Liberal party think that they have a hope of a chance, John Turner style, they will vote for Freeland.

August1991 Grand Master

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Federal Liberals (Ontario/Quebec/Maritimes) have this obtuse belief that they always win.

Laurier, Mackenzie-King, Laurier, Pearson, Trudeau, Martin, Chretien.

Liberals win!

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Well, Ignatieff lost.

 

CdnFox Grand Master

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2 hours ago, August1991 said:

I'm not so certain

I have not looked at the voting rules.

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If the federal Liberals think that Carney will become our next PM, they are totally delusional.

If the people in the federal Liberal party think that they have a hope of a chance, John Turner style, they will vote for Freeland.

I don't know that I'd go so far as to say they think he would win. I think they're hoping he does well enough to save the furniture. A bad loss for them would normally be being reduced to about 100 seats. It's not easy to fight your way back from that.

At the moment it looks like they could be reduced to as much as 40 seats. Which would be disastrous. So they're hoping that he can bring them back up to closer to the hundred seats

betsy Grand Master

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This race is a sham.

 

We already know the chosen one who's been designated by Trudeau to be his successor.  Freeland just happened to have upset Trudeau's apple cart.  She won't stand a chance.  She'll leave the Liberal Party, and sits as an independent...................if she stays in politics.

 

She might cross the aisle to the Conservatives.

 

We're wasting valuable time - at a most critical time the country had ever faced - waiting for the Liberals, as they play their silly game!

 

 

 

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

Disagree.

Many federal Liberals think that Carney will be our next PM.

 

 

I'm not counting him out.  We'd seen how Canadians gave Trudeau a second term.

Canada has become left-leaning.

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ExFlyer Grand Master

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On 2/3/2025 at 4:07 AM, CdnFox said:

Carney will win. The lib supporters are looking at him as a 'white knight' who will come across as  a great economics expert and save the party. 

He isn't and he won't but they believe he is and will and freeland is basically a gender bent trudeau, tied at the hip with all of his decisions. They might as well have run him as her. 

I agree, Carney will win.

I like Carney. I think he is a smart guy.

I am astonished he decided to become a Liberal.... maybe I am wrong and is not such a smart guy. LOL

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

Moonbox Grand Master

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2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I agree, Carney will win.

I like Carney. I think he is a smart guy.

I am astonished he decided to become a Liberal.... maybe I am wrong and is not such a smart guy. LOL

I feel almost the exact same way.  Carney would have been a great PM, but signing up now doesn't show great political instincts, unless he figures he can play the long game and last until 2029.  

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CdnFox Grand Master

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10 hours ago, August1991 said:

Disagree.

Many federal Liberals think that Carney will be our next PM.

If by many you mean about 7 then sure. There's probably that many who can exercise that level of self-delusion

They all have to claim that he's going to be prime minister because that's what you have to do, you don't enter an election by saying oh our guy is definitely losing. But nobody expects him to win.

Everyone acknowledges that there is always a possibility of a victory. In Canadian politics anything is theoretically possible. Poilievre could slip and fall down the stairs and accidentally eat a baby. You never know.

But everyone knows that it's not about winning the election, that is the least likely possible outcome. It's about keeping the loss to a minimum so that they have something to be rebuilding.

It's harder to win a seat back when you've lost it. It's hard to recruit people to run in that riding, it's much harder to raise money, and it's harder to get volunteers for the ground forces that really win elections. So every seat they lose hurts.

They are going to be hoping that carney can deliver them closer to 100 seats rather than 50 seats. We will have to see

Queenmandy85 Grand Master

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On 1/20/2025 at 8:55 PM, Army Guy said:

.What they will remember is who was the worst PM ever....

Mike Pearson???? The man of more scandals than Rex. The Prime Minister who wrecked the Canadian Forces.

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CdnFox Grand Master

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35 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Mike Pearson???? The man of more scandals than Rex. The Prime Minister who wrecked the Canadian Forces.

Not even close. Trudeau was easily the worst prime minister ever, both historians and the general public seem to agree. Wrecking the Canadian Forces is nothing compared to wrecking the Canadians, and right now most can't afford housing or food properly

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August1991 Grand Master

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On 2/5/2025 at 3:36 AM, betsy said:

This race is a sham.

We already know the chosen one who's been designated by Trudeau to be his successor.  Freeland just happened to have upset Trudeau's apple cart.  She won't stand a chance.  She'll leave the Liberal Party, and sits as an independent...................if she stays in politics.

 

Disagree.

In 2016, the Republicans chose Trump

Queenmandy85 Grand Master

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On 2/5/2025 at 3:31 PM, CdnFox said:

Not even close. Trudeau was easily the worst prime minister ever, both historians and the general public seem to agree. Wrecking the Canadian Forces is nothing compared to wrecking the Canadians, and right now most can't afford housing or food properly

You have to be kidding. Lucien Rivard, the Spenser affair, the tripple furniture bribe, the mafia money that went into Pearson's 1963 campaign and the election interference by the CIA that promoted Pearson over the Conservatives. 

 How do you compare the current government that with the mafia run government of Lester Pearson. Pearson's own Parliamentary Secretary offered a $50K bribe to get Rivard out on bail. Dinah Christie sang songs about the many scandals in Mike's government.

CanFox, my friend, you have a short memory. 

 

 

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Queenmandy85 Grand Master

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People who don't understand the Canadian political system talk about election a Prime Minister. We don't, of course. We elect a Member of the House of Commons. 

But, now for the simple act of taking out a free membership in the LPC, we have that rare opportunity to elect the Prime Minister. (You cannot be a member of the LPC if you have a membership in another party but not many people do). Unfortunately, if you were slow off the mark, you have lost the opportunity. Membership sales have closed.

 

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On 2/5/2025 at 3:45 AM, August1991 said:

Many federal Liberals think that Carney will be our next PM.

You mean after the next election?

It's possible. As I asked earlier, what would happen if the conservatives get the most votes of any party but not enough for a majority? Who would join them in a coalition government? If no one, then the liberals get another kick at the can.

I predict Carney wins the leadership race, but hopefully Freeland stays on in a top position. She's probably the most effective federal politician we've had in a long time.

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