Trump to discuss ending childhood vaccination programs with RFK Jr.

[Hodad]

Who needs doctors and scientists when you have Brain Worm and Bleach Blood on the case. Idiocracy come to life. Welcome back, polio!

 

Reuters

 U.S. President-elect Donald Trump in an interview published on Thursday said he will be talking to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee to run the Department of Health and Human Services, about ending childhood vaccination programs.

 

When asked if he would sign off if Kennedy decided to end childhood vaccinations programs, Trump told Time magazine, "we're going to have a big discussion. The autism rate is at a level that nobody ever believed possible. If you look at things that are happening, there's something causing it."

 

When asked if the discussion could result in his administration getting rid of some vaccinations, Trump said: "It could if I think it's dangerous, if I think they are not beneficial, but I don't think it's going to be very controversial in the end."

 

Asked in the Nov. 25 interview if he thinks childhood autism is linked to vaccines, Trump said: "No, I'm going to be listening to Bobby," referring to Kennedy. Trump said he had a lot of respect for Kennedy and his views on vaccinations.

[gatomontes99]

Wow. You guys really don't get nuance, do you?

[Politics1990]

these 2 dumbnuts  are gonna set back american health  decades by  the time 2028 comes around sad really

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This is the worst case scenario. We nearly eradicated cases of polio, smallpox, whopping cough, etc. If the Trump administration does away with vaccinations, it could lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths.

The Autism link that Trump and RFK are pushing, was a long debunked study from 1998. There is no evidence that vaccines cause Autism.

Edited December 17, 2024 by DUI_Offender

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[User]

OMG, they are going to talk?

 

[Deluge]

13 hours ago, Hodad said:

Who needs doctors and scientists when you have Brain Worm and Bleach Blood on the case. Idiocracy come to life. Welcome back, polio!

 

Reuters

 U.S. President-elect Donald Trump in an interview published on Thursday said he will be talking to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee to run the Department of Health and Human Services, about ending childhood vaccination programs.

 

When asked if he would sign off if Kennedy decided to end childhood vaccinations programs, Trump told Time magazine, "we're going to have a big discussion. The autism rate is at a level that nobody ever believed possible. If you look at things that are happening, there's something causing it."

 

When asked if the discussion could result in his administration getting rid of some vaccinations, Trump said: "It could if I think it's dangerous, if I think they are not beneficial, but I don't think it's going to be very controversial in the end."

 

Asked in the Nov. 25 interview if he thinks childhood autism is linked to vaccines, Trump said: "No, I'm going to be listening to Bobby," referring to Kennedy. Trump said he had a lot of respect for Kennedy and his views on vaccinations.

Relax, pervert, you've had your turn. Now it's time for the country to be great again.  

[gatomontes99]

His actual views:

His basic premise is that all vaccines should have continuous studies to ensure the safety of their use. Who here thinks that is horrible?

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43 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

His actual views:

His basic premise is that all vaccines should have continuous studies to ensure the safety of their use. Who here thinks that is horrible?

"It is a fantasy to think we can lower vaccination rates and herd immunity in the U.S. and not suffer recurrence of these diseases," said Gregory Poland, co-director of the Atria Academy of Science & Medicine. "One in 3,000 kids who gets measles is going to die. There's no treatment for it. They are going to die."

During a November 2019 measles epidemic that killed 80 children in Samoa, Kennedy wrote to the country's prime minister falsely claiming that the measles vaccine was probably causing the deaths. Scott Gottlieb, who was Trump's first FDA commissioner, said on CNBC on Nov. 29 that Kennedy "will cost lives in this country" if he undercuts vaccination.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/12/06/nx-s1-5218574/rfk-vaccines-anti-vaccine-infectious-disease

RFK Jr\s nomination is outright scary.

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Aiono Professor Alec Ekeroma, Samoa’s Director General of Health: “We cannot and should not stay silent. We know what this appointment means. It means more platforms for anti-vaxxers and less funding for vaccines and health programmes. It must be treated as a threat to our health security.” [The Guardian, 11/25/24]

Hawaii Governor and ER Doctor Josh Green: “As both a physician and Governor, I’ve seen the devastating effects of misinformation about vaccines. During a measles outbreak in Samoa, RFK Jr.’s rhetoric led to widespread fear, causing many to avoid vaccinations. Tragically, 83 innocent children lost their lives.”  [X, 11/15/24]

• “We were in Samoa… in the aftermath of RFK Jr. going through that country and discouraging its people, scaring them, from being vaccinated… 83 children had just died and over 5,000 cases of measles that we diagnosed had been spread through the country. It was a disaster and it was caused in large part by RFK Jr. He is a terrible pick for HHS secretary and if he does become our lead health official in the country, you’re going to see outbreaks like this in rural communities and cities across America.” [MSNBC, 12/1/24]

Moelagi Leilani Jackson, Samoan Nurse:  People who worked on the Samoan measles response told the Associated Press that the credibility RFK Jr. gave to anti-vaccine forces when he met with them had an impact. Moelagi Leilani Jackson, a Samoan nurse who worked on the vaccination campaign to stem the measles outbreak, said she remembered that after Kennedy’s visit, the anti-vaccine influencers “got louder.” “I feel like they felt they had the support of Kennedy. But I also think that Kennedy was very – well, he came in and he left and other people picked up the pieces.”

 

[gatomontes99]

5 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

"It is a fantasy to think we can lower vaccination rates and herd immunity in the U.S. and not suffer recurrence of these diseases," said Gregory Poland, co-director of the Atria Academy of Science & Medicine. "One in 3,000 kids who gets measles is going to die. There's no treatment for it. They are going to die."

During a November 2019 measles epidemic that killed 80 children in Samoa, Kennedy wrote to the country's prime minister falsely claiming that the measles vaccine was probably causing the deaths. Scott Gottlieb, who was Trump's first FDA commissioner, said on CNBC on Nov. 29 that Kennedy "will cost lives in this country" if he undercuts vaccination.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/12/06/nx-s1-5218574/rfk-vaccines-anti-vaccine-infectious-disease

RFK Jr\s nomination is outright scary.

Kennedy may or may not have been correct. I spent 2 weeks in the ICU because I had a very bad reaction to the MMR. I was 2 at the time so I don't remember it. But it happened because I don't tolerate vaccines that are incubated in eggs. Do you know these kids didn't have the same condition?

[gatomontes99]

5 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Aiono Professor Alec Ekeroma, Samoa’s Director General of Health: “We cannot and should not stay silent. We know what this appointment means. It means more platforms for anti-vaxxers and less funding for vaccines and health programmes. It must be treated as a threat to our health security.” [The Guardian, 11/25/24]

Hawaii Governor and ER Doctor Josh Green: “As both a physician and Governor, I’ve seen the devastating effects of misinformation about vaccines. During a measles outbreak in Samoa, RFK Jr.’s rhetoric led to widespread fear, causing many to avoid vaccinations. Tragically, 83 innocent children lost their lives.”  [X, 11/15/24]

• “We were in Samoa… in the aftermath of RFK Jr. going through that country and discouraging its people, scaring them, from being vaccinated… 83 children had just died and over 5,000 cases of measles that we diagnosed had been spread through the country. It was a disaster and it was caused in large part by RFK Jr. He is a terrible pick for HHS secretary and if he does become our lead health official in the country, you’re going to see outbreaks like this in rural communities and cities across America.” [MSNBC, 12/1/24]

Moelagi Leilani Jackson, Samoan Nurse:  People who worked on the Samoan measles response told the Associated Press that the credibility RFK Jr. gave to anti-vaccine forces when he met with them had an impact. Moelagi Leilani Jackson, a Samoan nurse who worked on the vaccination campaign to stem the measles outbreak, said she remembered that after Kennedy’s visit, the anti-vaccine influencers “got louder.” “I feel like they felt they had the support of Kennedy. But I also think that Kennedy was very – well, he came in and he left and other people picked up the pieces.”

 

Two posts and you have completely ignored the actual positions Kennedy wants from the government. He has stated that he wants a continuous monitoring of the safety of vaccines. Why would that be a problem?

He has not called, nor could he get the support, for the elimination of vaccines. He does support making vaccines optional and monitoring their safety. I agree with both counts. Vaccines aren't without risk, I'm proof of that. So that risk should be taken by the parents and not the government. You shouldn't get to control how other people behave.

I'm the one that has the most to lose as I never finished the MMR shots. So I could still get measles. And I'm saying, let them take the risk, if they want. They will have to bear the consequences. But that is their choice, not yours.

[WestCanMan]

Another: "OMG, TRUMP'S GONNA DO THIS!!!!!!" thread. LMAO.

Hey @Hodad, do you have even one legitimate "OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE TRUMP ACTUALLY DID THAT" thread? 

And I don't mean a thread about imaginary Russian collusion, imaginary Ukrainian collusion, an imaginary gun-free insurrection that almost overthrew the US gov't, an anonymous source that says that he said something, or an alleged rape from an unnamed year that sounds more like Shades of Grey episode 2 from season dumb5lut? 

[herbie]

Trump stupid enough to discuss ending childhood vaccination

There. FTFY

[Radiorum]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Two posts and you have completely ignored the actual positions Kennedy wants from the government. He has stated that he wants a continuous monitoring of the safety of vaccines.

Kennedy has been very vocal in his opposition to vaccine mandates, comparing it to totalitarianism. At rallies, he has even said that Anne Frank had a better chance with the Nazis.

(Side note – there is no US law mandating children get vaccinated, but they can’t enroll in a school without the vaccines.)

Vaccines have eliminated many diseases that used to kill a lot – millions and millions – of children.

So the obvious question is – why does Kennedy not want to prevent these deaths?

Well, which parents are the most likely to have vaccine hesitancy?

As it turns out, religious reasons account for the majority of total vaccine refusal.

So, apparently, Kennedy wants to do some population control on religious people.

Edited December 17, 2024 by Radiorum

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This is the medication RFK Jr. advised his followers to take years after the CDC warned it was not effective and very dangerous for people's health:

Nearly 17,000 people may have died from hydroxychloroquine: study

Nearly 17,000 people across six countries may have died because they took hydroxychloroquine (HQC) during the first wave of COVID-19 in 2020, according to a new analysis published by French researchers.  

Hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malaria drug that was prescribed off-label to treat COVID-19 in the early stage of the pandemic, as researchers and physicians scrambled to find a way to combat the disease. It was also proposed as a preventative measure. 

 

In February and March 2020, the use of this treatment was widely promoted based on preliminary reports suggesting a potential efficacy against COVID-19. However, subsequent studies showed that not only did the drug have no benefit, it also resulted in a significant increase in risk of death. 

According to the researchers from Lyon, France, and Quebec, Canada, providers still prescribed hydroxychloroquine to some patients hospitalized with COVID-19 “despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits.” 

The analysis found an estimated 16,990 excess deaths across six countries — Turkey, Belgium, France, Spain, Italy and the U.S. — were likely attributed to hydroxychloroquine use.

[Aristides]

6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Kennedy may or may not have been correct. I spent 2 weeks in the ICU because I had a very bad reaction to the MMR. I was 2 at the time so I don't remember it. But it happened because I don't tolerate vaccines that are incubated in eggs. Do you know these kids didn't have the same condition?

My youngest granddaughter has a severe egg allergy. There are alternatives and she is fully vaccinated.

[Aristides]

Herd immunity is a myth. Smallpox goes back over 2000 years yet in the 18th century it was the leading cause of death in Europe killing 400,000 Europeans a year and it killed 10% of Swedish infants every year. By the early 1950's there were still over 50 million cases a year world wide until it was declared eradicated by vaccines in 1979.

[gatomontes99]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

My youngest granddaughter has a severe egg allergy. There are alternatives and she is fully vaccinated.

There are now. But what about people that are allergic to those options? And what is so wrong about allowing people to make their own choices with quality information? Why are you so against freedom?

[impartialobserver]

I guess if it does actually happen then going to see some interesting times. I have some doubts as to whether this is legit or not. 

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, Deluge said:

Relax, pervert, you've had your turn. Now it's time for the country to be great again.  

America has always been great, DELUGINAL anti-American.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Another: "OMG, TRUMP'S GONNA DO THIS!!!!!!" thread. LMAO.

Hey @Hodad, do you have even one legitimate "OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE TRUMP ACTUALLY DID THAT" thread? 

And I don't mean a thread about imaginary Russian collusion, imaginary Ukrainian collusion, an imaginary gun-free insurrection that almost overthrew the US gov't, an anonymous source that says that he said something, or an alleged rape from an unnamed year that sounds more like Shades of Grey episode 2 from season dumb5lut? 

Your "imaginary" claims MEAN NOTHING. You've been SHOWN THE EVIDENCE and your DENIAL doesn't make that go away. Duh

[robosmith]

16 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I guess if it does actually happen then going to see some interesting times. I have some doubts as to whether this is legit or not. 

RFK may skate by because he is the best of the worst Trump nominees.

We'll be lucky if the worst ones get the axe.

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your "imaginary" claims MEAN NOTHING. You've been SHOWN THE EVIDENCE and your DENIAL doesn't make that go away. Duh

Right:

FEC fines Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC over Trump-Russia dossier research

“Inspector General Horowitz’s team found this briefing document. Inspector General Horowitz and his team deserve great credit for uncovering systematic fraud at Department of Justice surrounding the Carter Page FISA warrant. I’m also very appreciative of the Department of Justice’s release of the FBI document used to brief the Senate Intelligence Committee.”

The FBI knew RussiaGate was a lie — but hid that truth

All the way through, the FBI colluded with Hillary to create the Russia Collusion lie. There is NOTHING truthful about it.

[Nationalist]

Libbies...Trump and Kennedy are going to talk. So you Dweebs jump off the deep end in a pathetic effort to say they'll ban all vaccines.

You people are dumb as a stump.