Trump to discuss ending childhood vaccination programs with RFK Jr.

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, robosmith said:

You responded with a quote from a lawyer, NOT medical experts, so you missed that.

"the National Vaccine Compensation Program" is NOT RELEVANT to the findings of peer reviewed medical research which shows that vaccines do not cause increased rates of autism.

Buddy you don't know the difference between a snake-oil salesman and a gauze pad. 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

In 2005, an investigative reporter alerted The Lancet's editors that Wakefield's study had been flawed by severe research misconduct, conflict of interests, and probably falsehood. After investigating the matter, The Lancet retracted the article, and the British Medical Association took disciplinary actions against Wakefield.

The Lancet's editors also published the "study" that "showed" that giving people HCQ actually made their outcomes worse, and then after the MSM wielded it like the baton of justice for a week or so, the study was retracted. 

The Lancet is just a go-to for vax propaganda. 

[WestCanMan]

On 12/19/2024 at 1:35 PM, herbie said:

Don't forget the anti-vax lunacy at it's most demented.

Oh noes, stone-cold herbie's about to open up a can of stoop-ass.

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The horn honking gang

"EVERYBODY HIDE" - PM Trudeau

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protesting how they weren't allowed back in to Canada without a vax from the US that wouldn't let them IN without one in the first place still portrayed as heros by them.

But they were getting in without a vax, and truckers in Canada can only protest against their own gov't's malfeasance, not that of the US gov't.

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F^cking Trudeau not deciding border policy of the USA0

Trudeau was one of the worst vax-fascists on the planet. Instead of standing up for Canadians he bent our young adults over a barrel for Pfizer and Moderna.

The fact that he went along with that idiocy is what made it possible.

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F*cking Trudeau not letting the infectious into the country.

Oh he did alright. Back when covid wasn't here he did everything he could to get folks from Wuhan access to our airports, malls, schools, food courts, restaurants, sports venues, etc.

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F*cking Trudeau dictating and forcing people by merely advising them to use common sense.

You disgusting, lying piece of shit.

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F*cking Trudeau who handed all decision making over to doctors and health professional rather than making decisions.

Trudeau didn't "let Drs and health professionals make decisions" he let Pfizer/Lancet propaganda make decisions. 

He completely ignored HEALTH DATA from Israeli ICUs and every other ICU and morgue all across the planet and just continued to spout "?data?" from vax propagandists.

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Yeah let's let MR Brainworm decide polio, measles, whooping cough need to come back.
Take the flouride out take the iodine out of salt take the Vitamin C out of kid's drinks it's all a Kremlin plot.

OK wormapalooza. 

[WestCanMan]

Listen to a little refresher course in herbie's pandemic logic and then think about what his opinion is actually worth:

1. letting people fly into Canada from Wuhan, back at the start of the pandemic, was "safe and smart"
2. in 2021, after covid had spread all throughout Canada and the US for nearly 2 full years, he felt like "only letting millions of vaxed people go back and forth across the Canada-US border" would help put an end to covid. 🤣

I'm not kidding. Herbie literally believed all of that, and to this day he's acting like he still believes that vax mandates somehow fought covid. 

Damn, herbie. I already knew more about covid in May of 2020 than you will ever know. 

Edited December 21, 2024 by WestCanMan

[herbie]

Oh FFS you're stuck in the past with your 'covid fascist' bullshit and think listening to Mr Brainworm is the future.
What a future, you must hate Americans.

Let the Swiss take a lock on medical research.
Let some other country lock up EV research & production.
Give Taiwan more guns so we can avoid the expense of building chip plants and unionized workers.
Keep hostages in space while we wait for private enterprise to build more profitable safe spacecraft cuz we can't bum rides from Russia.

Yeah, Mr Progress himself. As proUSA and The Penguin himself.

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS you're stuck in the past with your 'covid fascist' bullshit and think listening to Mr Brainworm is the future.
What a future, you must hate Americans.

You've just got TDS little boy.

"Twumpy do it, so it vewy bad. Wight, mommy?"

FACT: Americans have a ton of crap in their foods that's illegal in Europe and other countries. American superstores are becoming a toxic wasteland. Someone should do something about that.

Leftards: "We need to put up lots of regulations to make it harder to open/run businesses".

Also Leftards: "We need to make it easier for companies to put toxic garbage into the food supply."

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Let the Swiss take a lock on medical research.
Let some other country lock up EV research & production.
Give Taiwan more guns so we can avoid the expense of building chip plants and unionized workers.
Keep hostages in space while we wait for private enterprise to build more profitable safe spacecraft cuz we can't bum rides from Russia.

Yeah, Mr Progress himself. As proUSA and The Penguin himself.

Everything that you say is just stupid and/or false. 

FYI Trump was already taking steps to bring manufacturing - and especially the fabrication of important medical/technological items - back to America after Obama spent exactly zero seconds working on that.

You're just so far behind Trump that you're starting to say "His 2017 ideas were awesome!"

[Scott75]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

  

On 12/20/2024 at 7:06 PM, Scott75 said:

I think you went overboard here, but it's understandable- the problem with insults is that it can be -very- difficult to resist responding in the same way. And when that really gets going, it tends to ruin productive discussions, unfortunately :-/.

If you think that you can have a fruitful discussion with DUI or any of these other cultists then you're out of your mind.

I definitely do, but to be fair, I'm not always right wing. You may remember that I have a decidedly more left wing stance when it comes to other issues, such as in the "Are you a man or a woman?" thread. I -suspect- this may have helped in my conversation with DUI here. I also noted that he actually apologized for going overboard with you, in post #67 in this thread. I'll quote him:

16 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I agree. That was uncalled for. I apologise, @WestCanMan

Anyway, continuing with your post:

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Some of these guys were still denying that even one multi-vaxed person had ever died of covid at the end of 2021. 

Eyeball even went on the Health Canada website, found their own stats on how many multi-vaxed people died of covid, and then kept denying that multi-vaxed people die of covid. Until CBC says "people with multiple shots of the jab can die of covid", it's not real for him, but CBC doesn't talk about multi-vaxed deaths, because it's contrary to their narrative.

In 2020 15,000 Canadians died of covid. 

In 2021 14,000 Canadians died of covid. 

In 2022 16,000 multi-vaxed Canadians died of covid. 19,000 Canadians total. Hospitalizations were more than triple than they were back when "the hospitals were being overwhelmed". But CBC and CTV didn't talk about any of that. They barely talked about the pandemic at all in 2022. 

I was updating those cultists constantly, telling them that covid deaths weren't down at all in 2022. They didn't believe a word of it: they thought that I was a crazy conspiracy theorist. Covid deaths in the summer of 2022 were several times what they were in previous summers and I showed them Health Canada's own charts. Nothing.

I bet that if you ask eyeball right now he thinks that covid deaths were down to almost nothing in 2022. 

These people are incapable of learning anything that they don't see on CBC. They're f'ing koalas. It's eucalyptus or death for these turds. 

I think you know you're preaching to the choir when it comes to the Covid narrative with me. I actually suspect you think I go too far :-p. But that doesn't mean I think we should treat our ideological opponents with insults just because they do it to us. As the old saying goes, "An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind". I'm personally in favour of preserving my eyes :-p. 

[WestCanMan]

On 12/21/2024 at 5:59 PM, Scott75 said:

I definitely do, but to be fair, I'm not always right wing. You may remember that I have a decidedly more left wing stance when it comes to other issues, such as in the "Are you a man or a woman?" thread. I -suspect- this may have helped in my conversation with DUI here. I also noted that he actually apologized for going overboard with you, in post #67 in this thread. I'll quote him:

Anyway, continuing with your post:

I think you know you're preaching to the choir when it comes to the Covid narrative with me. I actually suspect you think I go too far :-p. But that doesn't mean I think we should treat our ideological opponents with insults just because they do it to us. As the old saying goes, "An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind". I'm personally in favour of preserving my eyes :-p. 

I don't think that it's going too far to merely draw attention to highly relevant facts that come straight from the Health Canada website. Everything that I said has been proven here.

TBH, I think that it's a bit of a stretch to say that the jabs are killing people en masse, which seems to be what you're claiming. 

In any event, you could be right and you could be wrong, I don't have a dog in that fight so I stay out of it. 

My hill to die on is: it's a complete abomination that we forced young adults to take that jab because we knew that they didn't need it by the time it was available for people in that risk group, and we already knew that it didn't really work by then. That's it. That, and the fact that the media lied to us like a bunch of Dem congressmen. Once people in the mainstream start acknowledging that, I'm done talking about covid. 

Even when I go so far as to point out the fact that "more multi-vaxed people died "of covid" in 2022 than the total number of people who died of covid in either year before", it's just to drive home the fact that the jabs don't work, so there was no reason to force them on people.  

If the covid jabs worked, and if kids actually had a lot to gain from taking it, then vax mandates might have at least made some sense, but they were unnecessary, useless, and they were never proven to be safe before kids took them, and we know that because they actually caused deaths and other serious side-effects. 

[Scott75]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

On 12/21/2024 at 7:59 PM, Scott75 said:

I definitely do, but to be fair, I'm not always right wing. You may remember that I have a decidedly more left wing stance when it comes to other issues, such as in the "Are you a man or a woman?" thread. I -suspect- this may have helped in my conversation with DUI here. I also noted that he actually apologized for going overboard with you, in post #67 in this thread. I'll quote him:

Anyway, continuing with your post:

I think you know you're preaching to the choir when it comes to the Covid narrative with me. I actually suspect you think I go too far :-p. But that doesn't mean I think we should treat our ideological opponents with insults just because they do it to us. As the old saying goes, "An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind". I'm personally in favour of preserving my eyes :-p. 

I don't think that it's going too far to merely draw attention to highly relevant facts that come straight from the Health Canada website.

Completely agree with you there.

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Everything that I said has been proven here.

That's a big claim, but I think we certainly agree on the general outlines of the problem.

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

TBH, I think that it's a bit of a stretch to say that the jabs are killing people en masse, which seems to be what you're claiming. 

In any event, you could be right and you could be wrong, I don't have a dog in that fight so I stay out of it. 

It's not really me who's making the claims, it's the authors of a certain study. I just believe that the claims are credible. For the audience, who may not have seen anything on the study in question, there's an article on it here:

Vaccines Caused 17 Million Deaths During Pandemic Plus 4 More Takeaways From Largest Excess Mortality Study to Date | Children's Health Defense

That number is an extrapolation for the number of deaths worldwide caused by covid vaccines.

Another author has come up with an estimate of the number of people killed by covid vaccines in the U.S. His article can be seen here:

Google AI just estimated that as many as 1.1M Americans may have been killed by the COVID vaccines | Steve Kirsch

I made a thread with Steve Kirsch's article in the opening post in another forum, which can be seen here:

https://politicalhotwire.com/t/google-ai-just-estimated-that-as-many-as-1-1m-americans-may-have-been-killed-by-the-covid-vaccines-steve-kirsch.283510/

 

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

My hill to die on is: it's a complete abomination that we forced young adults to take that jab because we knew that they didn't need it by the time it was available for people in that risk group, and we already knew that it didn't really work by then. That's it.

It's worse than that- there's strong evidence that many were harmed by atleast the mRNA vaccines:

Study of 1.7 million Kids and Teens Found Heart Inflammation Only in Those Who Got Pfizer’s COVID Shots | Children's Health Defense

‘Striking Evidence’ COVID Shots May Increase Kids’ Risk of Asthma | Children's Health Defense

Edited December 23, 2024 by Scott75

[Scott75]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

My hill to die on is: it's a complete abomination that we forced young adults to take that jab because we knew that they didn't need it by the time it was available for people in that risk group, and we already knew that it didn't really work by then. That's it. That, and the fact that the media lied to us like a bunch of Dem congressmen. Once people in the mainstream start acknowledging that, I'm done talking about covid. 

Even when I go so far as to point out the fact that "more multi-vaxed people died "of covid" in 2022 than the total number of people who died of covid in either year before", it's just to drive home the fact that the jabs don't work, so there was no reason to force them on people.  

If the covid jabs worked, and if kids actually had a lot to gain from taking it, then vax mandates might have at least made some sense, but they were unnecessary, useless, and they were never proven to be safe before kids took them, and we know that because they actually caused deaths and other serious side-effects. 

Agreed with all of that. My battle goes a lot further than just the Covid vaccines, I'm against all of them, a stance which I'm pretty sure you yourself don't have. That's fine- I definitely think that being skeptical of covid vaccines for kids is a step in the right direction. 

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Scott75 said:

That's a big claim, but I think we certainly agree on the general outlines of the problem.

Not really. It's pretty simple actually.

The proof is right on health Canada's own site that covid deaths went from 15k to 14k to 19k. from 2020-2022.

I can also show you what percent of covid deaths were happening among the multi-vaxed. Health Canada publiched that data as well.

That's straight from Health Canada and there's no higher authority on the planet to give out that stat. 

Covid deaths absolutely were WAY higher in 2022. They were 24% higher than 2020 and 36% higher than in 2021. 

Biden said that the pandemic was over at the beginning of 2022, and our media in Canada wasn't talking about covid at all for the last 2/3 of 2022. 

About 86% of all covid deaths in Canada were among the multi-vaxed:

If you do the math here, and subtract the total deaths in each column as of Aug 21st, from the total deaths in each column as of Sept 25th, you can plainly see that: during that period 85.7% of the new covid deaths came from the ranks of the dbl-, triple-, and quadruple-vaxed. 

There were 155 new unvaxed covid deaths, 122 new 2x-vaxed covid deaths, 482 new 3x-vaxed covid deaths, and 323 new quadruple-vaxed covid deaths.

That's 1,082 new deaths, with 927 of them coming from the ranks of the multi-vaxed. 85.7%.

Health Canada stopped publishing the "Covid deaths by vax status" stats after that Sept 25th report, as it was clearly not looking good for the jabs. There were very few 4xers in Canada at that point and they and the 3xers were dominating the new covid deaths stats.

 

19,716 people died of covid in Canada in 2022, and if only 80.6% of them were among the multi-vaxed (.806 x 19,716 = 15,891) then "there were more multi-vaxed covid deaths in 2022 than there were total deaths in either previous year". FACT. 

The charts that I posted were from statista, but they get those stats right from this Health Canada chart:

The bottom right chart on this photo is the exact same data that's on the Statista graph for "Sept 25 2022". It's where they got it from.

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That's a big claim,

You can absolutely say that more jabbers died of covid in Canada in 2022 than the total number of covid deaths in either previous year. 100% true.

It's not "a big claim", it's just the plain and simple truth. 

The folks at Health Canada absolutely know that, just no one is talking about it. 

[WestCanMan]

FYI the chart from Jan 1 2022 showed 8,149 covid deaths among the unjabbed, so from Jan 1 to Sept 25 there were 2,650 covid deaths among the unjabbed. 

There were 3,826 more covid deaths in 2022 than 2020. 

And think about this: ALL of the multi-vaxers who died of covid in 2022 survived 2020. Did none of them get covid in 2020?

All of those 3xers and 4xers survived 2021 with only 2 jabs. 

If the jab isn't detrimental, then it's next-to-useless at the very least, period. 

Bottom line:

We forced young people to take the jabs when we had no possible way of knowing whether or not they were safe, and we knew even knew that they didn't need it. Now we KNOW the jabs provided almost zero protection, but we already knew that when the Israeli ICU data came in. 

It's definitely time to build a yardarm, our media just won't let Canadians know that. 

[Scott75]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

15 hours ago, Scott75 said:

20 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't think that it's going too far to merely draw attention to highly relevant facts that come straight from the Health Canada website. Everything that I said has been proven here.

That's a big claim, but I think we certainly agree on the general outlines of the problem.

Not really. It's pretty simple actually.

The proof is right on health Canada's own site that covid deaths went from 15k to 14k to 19k. from 2020-2022.

I can also show you what percent of covid deaths were happening among the multi-vaxed. Health Canada publiched that data as well.

That's straight from Health Canada and there's no higher authority on the planet to give out that stat. 

Covid deaths absolutely were WAY higher in 2022. They were 24% higher than 2020 and 36% higher than in 2021. 

Biden said that the pandemic was over at the beginning of 2022, and our media in Canada wasn't talking about covid at all for the last 2/3 of 2022. 

About 86% of all covid deaths in Canada were among the multi-vaxed:

If you do the math here, and subtract the total deaths in each column as of Aug 21st, from the total deaths in each column as of Sept 25th, you can plainly see that: during that period 85.7% of the new covid deaths came from the ranks of the dbl-, triple-, and quadruple-vaxed. 

There were 155 new unvaxed covid deaths, 122 new 2x-vaxed covid deaths, 482 new 3x-vaxed covid deaths, and 323 new quadruple-vaxed covid deaths.

That's 1,082 new deaths, with 927 of them coming from the ranks of the multi-vaxed. 85.7%.

Health Canada stopped publishing the "Covid deaths by vax status" stats after that Sept 25th report, as it was clearly not looking good for the jabs. There were very few 4xers in Canada at that point and they and the 3xers were dominating the new covid deaths stats.

 

19,716 people died of covid in Canada in 2022, and if only 80.6% of them were among the multi-vaxed (.806 x 19,716 = 15,891) then "there were more multi-vaxed covid deaths in 2022 than there were total deaths in either previous year". FACT. 

The charts that I posted were from statista, but they get those stats right from this Health Canada chart:

The bottom right chart on this photo is the exact same data that's on the Statista graph for "Sept 25 2022". It's where they got it from.

You can absolutely say that more jabbers died of covid in Canada in 2022 than the total number of covid deaths in either previous year. 100% true.

It's not "a big claim", it's just the plain and simple truth. 

The folks at Health Canada absolutely know that, just no one is talking about it. 

My apologies, I didn't connect your first sentence in the quote above with your second. I thought you were talking about -all- of your claims, not just the ones you've made concerning Health Canada. Anyway, very interesting information, thanks for sharing. I may not have told you this, but around 2022, I came to believe that the alleged Covid virus doesn't exist. I'm not saying that the microbes that they take pictures of don't exist, just that they're not causing what the alleged Cov 2 virus does. I was first introduced to the idea that biological viruses don't exist by a journalist who used to exclusively cover the medical field. The funny thing is that she reverted to believing the biological viruses exist, while I found a group of doctors and other researchers that have become convinced that they don't. These doctors and researchers published a 2 page statement in July 2022 that I think is worth looking at. It can be seen here:

https://drsambailey.com/resources/settling-the-virus-debate/

I know that there are some people who can't fathom all biological viruses not being real, but -can- consider the possibility that the Cov 2 virus isn't real. For those people, I think the following article by a journalist named Iain Davis is good:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/17/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud/

Edited December 24, 2024 by Scott75

[Scott75]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI the chart from Jan 1 2022 showed 8,149 covid deaths among the unjabbed, so from Jan 1 to Sept 25 there were 2,650 covid deaths among the unjabbed. 

There were 3,826 more covid deaths in 2022 than 2020. 

And think about this: ALL of the multi-vaxers who died of covid in 2022 survived 2020. Did none of them get covid in 2020?

All of those 3xers and 4xers survived 2021 with only 2 jabs. 

If the jab isn't detrimental, then it's next-to-useless at the very least, period. 

Bottom line:

We forced young people to take the jabs when we had no possible way of knowing whether or not they were safe, and we knew even knew that they didn't need it. Now we KNOW the jabs provided almost zero protection, but we already knew that when the Israeli ICU data came in. 

It's definitely time to build a yardarm, our media just won't let Canadians know that. 

I should probably mention that even when Covid started and I was quite scared of it (I still believed in biological viruses back then), the idea of taking any Covid vaccines never even entered my mind. My mother said that I reacted badly to vaccines when I was a kid and I haven't taken any since. Since Covid started, I've also read a lot more on vaccines, and they've just cemented my viewpoint that there are no good vaccines.

[WestCanMan]

53 minutes ago, Scott75 said:

I should probably mention that even when Covid started and I was quite scared of it (I still believed in biological viruses back then), the idea of taking any Covid vaccines never even entered my mind. My mother said that I reacted badly to vaccines when I was a kid and I haven't taken any since. Since Covid started, I've also read a lot more on vaccines, and they've just cemented my viewpoint that there are no good vaccines.

I was over 50 in 2020, so my wife and I were done having kids, and we had a lot less to lose than younger people from taking the jab. 

If it wasn't being forced on people I might have taken it, but I really objected the more and more the pushier they got, especially when all the things that they were saying were basically a mix of lies and drivel.  

[Scott75]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

9 hours ago, Scott75 said:

I should probably mention that even when Covid started and I was quite scared of it (I still believed in biological viruses back then), the idea of taking any Covid vaccines never even entered my mind. My mother said that I reacted badly to vaccines when I was a kid and I haven't taken any since. Since Covid started, I've also read a lot more on vaccines, and they've just cemented my viewpoint that there are no good vaccines.

I was over 50 in 2020, so my wife and I were done having kids, and we had a lot less to lose than younger people from taking the jab. 

If it wasn't being forced on people I might have taken it, but I really objected the more and more the pushier they got, especially when all the things that they were saying were basically a mix of lies and drivel.  

I knew someone online who didn't take the covid vaccines for the exact same reason :-p. I lost touch with him, so I don't know if he eventually took them, but I remember him being suspicious of how pushy they were being. As I said, I've been an anti vaxxer, in the true sense the term, for a while now, so ofcourse I did my best to persuade him that they were terrible, but as to what he himself said was his biggest red flag, it was the official pushiness from establishment to take them.

[impartialobserver]

This wreaks of trolldom. To undo the childhood vaccination program is not as simple as unchecking a box and clicking submit. 

[WestCanMan]

51 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

This wreaks of trolldom. To undo the childhood vaccination program is not as simple as unchecking a box and clicking submit. 

I feel good about the fact that there's going to be more finally going to be some actual oversight into the program now.

I think we all learned during covid that establishments we had faith in were absolutely not to be trusted. Major medical health publications changed the spelling of medi$ine, Fauci is now known to have done nothing but lie to us right from the day he said "I think the virus came from over there", and the legacy media was in lock step with those traitors every single step of the way.

So how many of these jabs that we give kids are really necessary, and how many are just to line the pockets of Big Pharma?

Remember the old jokes about "they're still mad about all the money they lost by curing polio"? Well, they're actually still making an obscene amount of money off of polio, because they packaged the word vaccine and used it to sell f'ing snake oil. 

Big Pharma: "This is a vaccine."

Moms: "OMG, MY LITTLE JOHNNY JUST HAS TO GET IT RIGHT NOW!!!! PUT THAT SH1T IN HIS ARM RIGHT AWAY SO THAT HE DOESN'T DIE IN HIS SLEEP TONIGHT!!!"

Like I've said many times here: the word "vaccine" used to mean something, and now it's "vak$ine".

[impartialobserver]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I feel good about the fact that there's going to be more finally going to be some actual oversight into the program now.

I think we all learned during covid that establishments we had faith in were absolutely not to be trusted. Major medical health publications changed the spelling of medi$ine, Fauci is now known to have done nothing but lie to us right from the day he said "I think the virus came from over there", and the legacy media was in lock step with those traitors every single step of the way.

So how many of these jabs that we give kids are really necessary, and how many are just to line the pockets of Big Pharma?

Remember the old jokes about "they're still mad about all the money they lost by curing polio"? Well, they're actually still making an obscene amount of money off of polio, because they packaged the word vaccine and used it to sell f'ing snake oil. 

Big Pharma: "This is a vaccine."

Moms: "OMG, MY LITTLE JOHNNY JUST HAS TO GET IT RIGHT NOW!!!! PUT THAT SH1T IN HIS ARM RIGHT AWAY SO THAT HE DOESN'T DIE IN HIS SLEEP TONIGHT!!!"

Like I've said many times here: the word "vaccine" used to mean something, and now it's "vak$ine".

I am not talking about Covid. I am referring to the standard childhood vaccines in the US

Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Polio, MMR, Chicken Pox, diphtheria, tetanus, and acellular pertussis

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I am not talking about Covid. I am referring to the standard childhood vaccines in the US

Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Polio, MMR, Chicken Pox, diphtheria, tetanus, and acellular pertussis

But kids don't just receive 8 inoculations in the States now, from what I've seen. Theoretically it's a crazy number now: over 50, some say as high as 72. 

I know that some of the above diseases you mentioned there require a series of shots, I'm not an expert on it. 

I know my kid didn't get 50 needles many in Canada, nor that many serums combined into a smaller number of needles, and according to my Dr he's 'fully vaccinated' in the traditional sense. I just trusted him, it was normal ever since before I was born to just get those shots. 

[impartialobserver]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

But kids don't just receive 8 inoculations in the States now, from what I've seen. Theoretically it's a crazy number now: over 50, some say as high as 72. 

I know that some of the above diseases you mentioned there require a series of shots, I'm not an expert on it. 

I know my kid didn't get 50 needles many in Canada, nor that many serums combined into a smaller number of needles, and according to my Dr he's 'fully vaccinated' in the traditional sense. I just trusted him, it was normal ever since before I was born to just get those shots. 

Yes, those that I listed have more than one shot. Been reading up and in addition to those that I listed, they advise that kids get the following. I did not get nearly that many when I was a kid (early 80's). 

Flu shots (two variants), Pneumococcal conjugate (PCV), Meningococcal (MenACWY), and HPV. 

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/11288-childhood-immunization-schedule

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Flu shots (two variants), Pneumococcal conjugate (PCV), Meningococcal (MenACWY), and HPV. 

Meningitis is a bacteria, why is that classified as a flu shot? 

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Meningitis is a bacteria, why is that classified as a flu shot? 

Apparently, meningitis can be bacterial or viral. I am no epidemiologist but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (j/k)

https://www.meningitis.org/blogs/difference-bacterial-viral-meningitis

Edited December 24, 2024 by impartialobserver

[WestCanMan]

17 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Apparently, meningitis can be bacterial or viral. I am no epidemiologist but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (j/k)

Too funny.

• https://www.meningitis.org/blogs/difference-bacterial-viral-meningitis

Now that I see it, it makes sense. Meningitis isn't the name of a specific pathogen, it's the name for a symptom, namely the lining of the brain swelling. 

[impartialobserver]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Too funny.

• https://www.meningitis.org/blogs/difference-bacterial-viral-meningitis

Now that I see it, it makes sense. Meningitis isn't the name of a specific pathogen, it's the name for a symptom, namely the lining of the brain swelling. 

Well back to my point. I do not see the non-covid vaccines being done away with in the next 4 years. Probably just them running their mouth in hopes of folks reacting.. quite effective sadly enough. Only vaccine that I intend to get is the Shingles vaccine in about 3.5 years. Had shingles in summer 2020 and it makes covid look like a stubbed toe.