US Health Care system has failed America (The Brian Thompson CEO Assassination)

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Why am I not surprised...

If you are ever offered a management position...turn it down.

I wouldn't be terribly worried about whether he's going to be offered a management position. I rather doubt anyone's even going to give him a job  

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

I already am in management but my industry doesn't depend on human misery and immiseration for profit so I think I'm safe.

Ever had to fire someone or lay someone off for financial reasons?

[Black Dog]

19 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ever had to fire someone or lay someone off for financial reasons?

Thankfully no, but I've been on the other end and I'll tell you I'd rather get laid off than be denied life saving medical treatment and it's not particularly close.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I wouldn't be terribly worried about whether he's going to be offered a management position. I rather doubt anyone's even going to give him a job  

Yeah all the good sucking dick in the truck stop bathroom jobs were taken by you.

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Thankfully no, but I've been on the other end and I'll tell you I'd rather get laid off than be denied life saving medical treatment and it's not particularly close.

 

Nobody believes you're in a management position. Well, I guess Paperboy is sort of self-employed so it's kind of management.....

 

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Yeah all the good sucking dick in the truck stop bathroom jobs were taken by you.

Oh look, black dog is getting beaten up again and immediately starts having strange sexual fantasies! What were the chances. Yawn

And I subcontracted to your mother by the way. Very profitable for me. Turns out she was very...ah...affordable .

[Black Dog]

31 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nobody believes you're in a management position. Well, I guess Paperboy is sort of self-employed so it's kind of management.....

I don't care what a mental cripple like you beleives.

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Oh look, black dog is getting beaten up again and immediately starts having strange sexual fantasies! What were the chances. Yawn

oh look you're crying about dirty jokes again. 

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And I subcontracted to your mother by the way. Very profitable for me. Turns out she was very...ah...affordable .

My mom's dead, thanks.

Edited December 6, 2024 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I don't care what a mental cripple like you beleives.

Stop playing with your mirror

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oh look you're crying about dirty jokes again. 

Oh kid, we both know they're not jokes. Whatever someone beats you up you have sexual fantasies about them. You should mention that your therapist

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My mom's dead, thanks.

Thank god, can you imagine how terrible she feel learning how you've turned out?

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Stop playing with your mirror

Oh kid, we both know they're not jokes. Whatever someone beats you up you have sexual fantasies about them. You should mention that your therapist

Thank god, can you imagine how terrible she feel learning how you've turned out?

I assure you, you chugging jizz in a dirty shitter is no sexual fantasy of mine but the grim reality of your daily life, probably not a great way to live given your advanced age and poor health, eh fatass?

 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I assure you, you chugging jizz in a dirty shitter is no sexual fantasy of mine 

 

Of course it is. Whenever you get beaten up that's the first thing you think of. And not just me. You seem to associate losing an argument with homosexuality and degrading possibly abusive Behavior.

Something you want to share with the class?

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Of course it is. Whenever you get beaten up that's the first thing you think of. And not just me. You seem to associate losing an argument with homosexuality and degrading possibly abusive Behavior.

Something you want to share with the class?

It's funny that you don't know what a sexual fantasy is, but thats not surprise since you give off big impotent incel vibes. I wonder if it's your age or your medical condition that's to blame.

[WestCanMan]

On 12/5/2024 at 9:17 AM, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think that applauding a cold-blooded murder is ever a moral choice 

I'm a firm believer in situational ethics. It's just plain common sense. 

If this was a CEO of a company that makes gummy bears and their price just went up 25% I'd say this was just a senseless killing. BUT, if that CEO is honestly guilty of making deals with people and taking a lot of their hard-earned money in exchange for services that he promises but never had any intention of providing, then he's good and dead as far as I'm concerned. And that doesn't even depend on whether or not anyone even died from his deceit and amorality. Even if a lot of people just suffered serious loss of quality of life or economic hardship because of him, I think those bullets look good on him. 

Look at this as a teachable moment, MH. People like Thompson and the Sacklers are making bank off of the suffering and deaths of tens of thousands of people while the justice dept is busy chasing Donald Trump for a loan he paid off on time. 

Fine, but now the people have spoken. 

If that Thompson guy is guilty of what he's being accused of, I hope that Trump pardons him, and gives him a bigger f'ing gun. That will help the flow of money back into the US medical system, instead of into greedy shareholder pockets, and it will give other unscrupulous CEOs a huge reason to legitimize their businesses. 

If Thompson guy is not  actually guilty of what he's being accused of, then I hope his killer gets the death penalty. 

But let's just take in a heaping dose of reality here, regarding the possibility of finding out what Thompson was really up to... Biden's advisors are busy right now discussing whether or not Fauci should get a presidential pardon. That's not just from Fox News, it's in USA Today and several others. Regardless of whether Fauci actually gets a pardon or not, the fact that it's even up for debate tells us that this isn't the kind of political climate where accountability is on the way from the justice dept any time soon. 

[Moonlight Graham]

7 hours ago, User said:

This is complete ignorance. 

Health insurance is highly regulated and all the meddling is why we have the system we have today. We have thousands of gun control laws across the country, the fact that we don't outright ban guns doesn't mean we have no regulation. 

post-secondary education is once again a victim of all the government meddling by the do-gooders who think everyone should go to college and thus everyone should get a loan for 100K so they can go to school for 5 years and get a degree in sociology. 

Then we all sit around and wonder why a person with a degree in sociology is stuck in some management job at Bed Bath and Beyond making 35K a year can't afford to pay off 100K in loans. 

 

Your gun laws are garbage.  Your health insurance regulations are garbage.  The results speak for themselves.

Your post-secondary education system is a joke.  So much of it is for profit charging kids/families out the nose and they're in debt for decades.  Nobody in Canada has to worry much about college debt.  The best universities in the country have sub-10k annual tuition.

You've never experienced anything else so its normal to you.  Your country's laws are highly controlled by wealthy corporation donors who just want to make money.

Edited December 6, 2024 by Moonlight Graham

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Your gun laws are garbage.  Your health insurance regulations are garbage.  The results speak for themselves.

Your post-secondary education system is a joke.  So much of it is for profit charging kids/families out the nose and they're in debt for decades.  Nobody in Canada has to worry much about college debt.  The best universities in the country have sub-10k annual tuition.

You've never experienced anything else so its normal to you.  Your country's laws are highly controlled by wealthy corporation donors who just want to make money.

Even though I don't agree with your opinions, I appreciate that you have them, and you're not afraid to voice them. 

I actually prefer some of the US laws.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Thankfully no, but I've been on the other end and I'll tell you I'd rather get laid off than be denied life saving medical treatment and it's not particularly close.

The concept is the same. Wait till you have to do it. If you are really in a management position.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Black Dog said:

It's funny that you don't know what a sexual fantasy is

Of course I do. You've given like 300 examples in the last few months alone, every time someone whoops you in a discussion   

You go through denial, insults and then sexual fantasy.  

It's gotta mean something. Be sure to tell your councilor 

[cougar]

On 12/5/2024 at 9:31 AM, Michael Hardner said:

How could one equate such a person to those types?

Easy.   Many of those "such people" are way worse than a typical killer and unlike the latter are completely invincible to the law.

 

[cougar]

On 12/5/2024 at 2:57 PM, gatomontes99 said:

So? That doesn't justify murder!

Whoever shot him put his whole life on the line.  I have no doubt this person had lost a relative as a result of healthcare claim denied for no  reason - wife, parent, child.

Many murders happen with the victims being completely innocent.  Looking at the public outcry, Brian Thompson got the justice that the US legal system denied to him.

He did a good job for the shareholders, someone said???  😉 Speaking of priorities messed up......  Maybe that graph from the fist post can be put on the tombstone as recognition of professional achievements and loyalty to shareholders.   🤣  (Sorry , could not resist)

Hope it leads to improvements in the US health insurance industry.

 

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"The only one who can save us from the Trump administration"

[Matthew]

On 12/5/2024 at 11:17 AM, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think that applauding a cold-blooded murder is ever a moral choice 

Sometimes an American problem requires an American solution.

It may not be moral, but it still feels to many here like the shooter is the good guy. Violence isn't a preferred way for a society to get things done, but when the system itself is killing large numbers of people, the masses always have the guillotine.

[Michael Hardner]

48 minutes ago, Matthew said:

 

1. It may not be moral, but it still feels to many here like the shooter is the good guy.

2. Violence isn't a preferred way for a society to get things done, but when the system itself is killing large numbers of people, the masses always have the guillotine.

1. He's a good guy?  I must have those posters on ignore thankfully.  As I said there's a large gap between he's a bad guy and he should be killed.

It's actually not required to render judgement on his personality.

2. The French Revolution was a bloody failure, that ended up restoring the Monarchy.  The American one created a strong, open, and lasting democracy.

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[gatomontes99]

Sorry, but I'm downvoting all the people that justify taking a father and husband away from his family because you don't like his business practices.

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, cougar said:

Whoever shot him put his whole life on the line.  I have no doubt this person had lost a relative as a result of healthcare claim denied for no  reason - wife, parent, child.

Many murders happen with the victims being completely innocent.  Looking at the public outcry, Brian Thompson got the justice that the US legal system denied to him.

He did a good job for the shareholders, someone said???  😉 Speaking of priorities messed up......  Maybe that graph from the fist post can be put on the tombstone as recognition of professional achievements and loyalty to shareholders.   🤣  (Sorry , could not resist)

Hope it leads to improvements in the US health insurance industry.

 

Your hope is that we reward murder?

So if somebody doesn't agree with the first nations for example. Loses their job because of a first nation protest or something? You'd be fine if they murdered a chief of that particular tribe or group and would then push for the government to make changes because somebody was murdered?

The problem with the left is that you're all hypocrites. You have no moral values Next slower yet insist that you do

If you don't like the laws then change the laws. If you don't like this company's insurance then change insurance providers. Or self-insure if you must.

But this person sold the product lawfully and legally within the united states and other people willingly purchase that product and because they are unhappy with their personal decisions they killed him. That is the narrative being passed around at the moment. And you think that is perfectly okay and we should encourage it and reward it with changes in Behavior. You are basically saying that terrorism should be effective

[User]

19 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Your gun laws are garbage.  Your health insurance regulations are garbage.  The results speak for themselves.

Your post-secondary education system is a joke.  So much of it is for profit charging kids/families out the nose and they're in debt for decades.  Nobody in Canada has to worry much about college debt.  The best universities in the country have sub-10k annual tuition.

You've never experienced anything else so its normal to you.  Your country's laws are highly controlled by wealthy corporation donors who just want to make money.

You offer little more than wildly absurd generalizations. 

You have no idea what I have or have not experienced. 

[gatomontes99]

40 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Your hope is that we reward murder?

So if somebody doesn't agree with the first nations for example. Loses their job because of a first nation protest or something? You'd be fine if they murdered a chief of that particular tribe or group and would then push for the government to make changes because somebody was murdered?

The problem with the left is that you're all hypocrites. You have no moral values Next slower yet insist that you do

If you don't like the laws then change the laws. If you don't like this company's insurance then change insurance providers. Or self-insure if you must.

But this person sold the product lawfully and legally within the united states and other people willingly purchase that product and because they are unhappy with their personal decisions they killed him. That is the narrative being passed around at the moment. And you think that is perfectly okay and we should encourage it and reward it with changes in Behavior. You are basically saying that terrorism should be effective

They have no moral values because they reject God. If you don't have God as the determiner of what is good and right, then morals are subjective. If morals are subjective, then you can justify anything you like. Then morals can flow with what ever the emotion of the moment is and what feels good becomes what is right.

 

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Your hope is that we reward murder?

That is the consequence of screwing over tens of thousands of customers, that ended up losing their lives, since the insurance they paid for would not cover their life saving operations. 

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

So if somebody doesn't agree with the first nations for example. Loses their job because of a first nation protest or something? You'd be fine if they murdered a chief of that particular tribe or group and would then push for the government to make changes because somebody was murdered?

Horrible comparison. Not even in the same ballpark. 

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

 

If you don't like the laws then change the laws. If you don't like this company's insurance then change insurance providers. Or self-insure if you must.

Wow, you have solved all the US health insurance issues! Now why didn't anyone think of this before? 

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

But this person sold the product lawfully and legally within the united states and other people willingly purchase that product and because they are unhappy with their personal decisions they killed him. That is the narrative being passed around at the moment. And you think that is perfectly okay and we should encourage it and reward it with changes in Behavior. You are basically saying that terrorism should be effective

How does it feel to simp for billionaires, over the average North American? I mean what kind of tool insinuates "it's their own fault for getting cancer!'  It's not like the people have much of a choice in choosing the right provider, since across the board, the industry is predatory.  Once again, when literally 99% of North America is cheering on the guy who shot the evil CEO, that should be an direct indictment against the greedy and predatory health insurance companies.

You are one of the only people defending these policies.  It just goes to show how out of touch you are with the average person. 

Edited December 7, 2024 by DUI_Offender

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22 hours ago, Black Dog said:

 

 

Yeah all the good sucking dick in the truck stop bathroom jobs were taken by you.

I can certainly see @CdnFox rising to the occasion, for that (pardon the pun).