US Health Care system has failed America (The Brian Thompson CEO Assassination)

[DUI_Offender]

I have never seen social media commentators so united, in their hatred of a Health Insurance CEO.  Thompson was the CEO of United healthcare, one of the largest health insurance agencies, and one of the most notorious companies for denying medical claims. This was not lost on the people.

 

"Just a friendly reminder that in 2024, Brian Thompson's leadership led United Healthcare to deny claims to 31.5 million sick Americans. By contrast, undocumented migrants in the USA killed fewer than 20 US citizens during that same time span. Who is your real enemy, America?"

"brian thompson isn't going to see your tweets, because he is dead from bullets, but your friends and family who run multi-billion dollar companies are, and they're going to feel that much more scared and alone because of it."

"Congratulations to Brian Thompson for avoiding a long and expensive end-of-life illness, filled with struggles to obtain care from insurance companies that employ AI to deny 90% of claims submitted."

The assassination:

https://x.com/DMichaelTripi/status/1864376762567635362

Edited December 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[DUI_Offender]

 

Edited December 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Michael Hardner]

I don't think that applauding a cold-blooded murder is ever a moral choice 

 

[DUI_Offender]

I wonder what @CdnFox thinks of this, and if he will still argue that the American Health Care system is far superior to the Canadian Health care system, since "the vast majority of Americans have health insurance."

 

Edited December 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Legato]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think that applauding a cold-blooded murder is ever a moral choice 

 

Correct. However health insurance companies have zero morals, so where will the line be drawn.

[DUI_Offender]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think that applauding a cold-blooded murder is ever a moral choice 

 

That is essentially what 99% of social media is doing. I have never seen such universal hatred of an individual. I mean how bad must the US system be for Americans to react this way? Then again, if the CEO of a Pharmaceutical company, or the CEO of an Oil & Gas company was murdered, I could imagine it would have the same reaction from the public.

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

That is essentially what 99% of social media is doing. I have never seen such universal hatred of an individual. I mean how bad must the US system be for Americans to react this way? Then again, if the CEO of a Pharmaceutical company, or the CEO of an Oil & Gas company was murdered, I could imagine it would have the same reaction from the public.

They usually feel that way about killers and war criminals. How could one equate such a person to those types?

[DUI_Offender]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

They usually feel that way about killers and war criminals. How could one equate such a person to those types?

The Health Insurance companies have denied claims that have gone on to either cost tens of millions the American people their life savings, or their lives.  There is zero sympathy for CEO's of predatory companies in America.

Edited December 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Nationalist]

Interestingly enough, I agree with @Michael Hardner.

Celebrating the assassination of this guy is sick. His job was to make profit for the shareholders. Apparently he was quite good at his job.

My job is to design new financial IT systems. Should someone lose money on their investments while using a system I designed, should I be shot?

The problem is not, and never will be the heads of health insurance companies. The problem is the health insurance industry as a whole and the lack of government oversight/involvement in said industry. Should US healthcare be nationalized? There are good arguments both for and against this. Its a question we are not gonna solve here.

But to celebrate this murder is...distasteful...to say the least.

[Michael Hardner]

20 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

The Health Insurance companies have denied claims that have gone on to either cost tens of millions the American people their life savings, or their lives.  There is zero sympathy for CEO's of predatory companies in America.

I get it 

https://www.hipaajournal.com/change-healthcare-responding-to-cyberattack/

Lots of intrigue, but I'm skeptical about stories that fit Hollywood storylines so acutely.

35 minutes ago, Legato said:

Correct. However health insurance companies have zero morals, so where will the line be drawn.

Do you identify as conservative?

[Aristides]

Interestingly enough, I agree with Nationalist.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

"Just a friendly reminder that in 2024, Brian Thompson's leadership led United Healthcare to deny claims to 31.5 million sick Americans. By contrast, undocumented migrants in the USA killed fewer than 20 US citizens during that same time span. Who is your real enemy, America?"

Ah, the true reason for this thread comes out: Propaganda from the pro-illegal immigration crowd. lol

[gatomontes99]

This is a perfect example of how the left justifies violence. They justified violence in Ferguson. They justified violence in Minneapolis. They justified violence in Atlanta. They justified violence in L.A. twice. They cheered when Trump was shot and lamented it wasn't a better shot. They lamented the second shooter didn't get close enough. Now they are cheering that a CEO is shot because they don't like his business practices.

 

[Deluge]

34 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

This is a perfect example of how the left justifies violence. They justified violence in Ferguson. They justified violence in Minneapolis. They justified violence in Atlanta. They justified violence in L.A. twice. They cheered when Trump was shot and lamented it wasn't a better shot. They lamented the second shooter didn't get close enough. Now they are cheering that a CEO is shot because they don't like his business practices.

 

Murder is what the left really wants. 

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Interestingly enough, I agree with @Michael Hardner.

Celebrating the assassination of this guy is sick. His job was to make profit for the shareholders. Apparently he was quite good at his job.

Oh for real? How did he do that?

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My job is to design new financial IT systems. Should someone lose money on their investments while using a system I designed, should I be shot?

Yes but not for the reasons you say. Jokes (?) aside, these situations aren't remotely comparable. People invest with the knowledge that it maybe not pay out. People get insurance with the expectation that it will be there when they need it and not be denied to save the company a few bucks.

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The problem is not, and never will be the heads of health insurance companies. The problem is the health insurance industry as a whole and the lack of government oversight/involvement in said industry. Should US healthcare be nationalized? There are good arguments both for and against this. Its a question we are not gonna solve here.

But to celebrate this murder is...distasteful...to say the least.

 

I won't celebrate it but I'm certainly not gonna shed any tears for his guy.

Edited December 5, 2024 by Black Dog

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think that applauding a cold-blooded murder is ever a moral choice 

 

I agree. It's always best if bad people are brought to justice legally. 

But there are gaps in the the construction and reach of out justice system. People sometimes take that sense of justice into their own hands. And then nobody quite feels bad about it. Illegal "justice" goes down easier than legal injustice.

[DUI_Offender]

58 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

This is a perfect example of how the left justifies violence. 

 

I've seen social media, and pretty much everyone is united in their hatred of Health Insurance companies in America. It is non-partisan,

[Dougie93]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I wonder what @CdnFox thinks of this, and if he will still argue that the American Health Care system is far superior to the Canadian Health care system, since "the vast majority of Americans have health insurance."

 

Canada's socialist healthcare system is collapsing in its own way

without any profit motive at all, there is no expansion

resulting in Soviet style shortages across the board

the model to follow is not the Canadian system, the Swiss have the best healthcare system in the world

[Dougie93]

49 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Murder is what the left really wants. 

indeed

the raison d'etre of the left is the French Revolution

The Commune inevitably becomes The Terror

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I wonder what @CdnFox thinks of this, and if he will still argue that the American Health Care system is far superior to the Canadian Health care system, since "the vast majority of Americans have health insurance."

 

Sorry, you're asking me what I think of Bernie Sanders opinion?

I think Bernie is an aging communist troll who's a complete hypocrite with a pudding fixation.

The guy has referred to himself as a Marxisteven in this day and age he's about one step down from a complete communist.  

Of COURSE he likes the idea of socialized medicine. It's like rice crispies, what did you THINK socalists are made of?  LOLOL

That doesn't mean that socialism is good or efficient or anything

And I never said anything about the American system being vastly disappear or anything like that. I said you get what you pay for. They pay more they get more. If they paid half as much they'd get less.

But of course you have to lie about what I said because god knows you can't actually logically or reasonably disagree with me unless you completely change my words   And we see that all the time from you. What a sad little man

 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I get it 

https://www.hipaajournal.com/change-healthcare-responding-to-cyberattack/

Lots of intrigue, but I'm skeptical about stories that fit Hollywood storylines so acutely.

Do you identify as conservative?

Only when Morris Dancing. All other times I identify as a Maserati.

pedale per il metallo

[Michael Hardner]

21 minutes ago, Legato said:

Only when Morris Dancing. All other times I identify as a Maserati.

pedale per il metallo

Colin is that you?

[Black Dog]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

And I never said anything about the American system being vastly disappear or anything like that. I said you get what you pay for. They pay more they get more. If they paid half as much they'd get less.

Well there's also the part where out they sometimes don't get what they pay for if their insurance company arbitrarily decides to refuse coverage, which is quite probably why this particular CEO is now so well ventilated.

Edited December 5, 2024 by Black Dog

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Colin is that you?

Well no. I'm not a whelp, cub, or young hound.

 

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, Legato said:

Well no. I'm not a whelp, cub, or young hound.

 

I know where you live tho... 🤣