refugees in Canada get $224.00 per day from our Government to eat and stay in a hotel room. That's more than the average canadian makes per day.

[eyeball]

16 minutes ago, User said:

How many other ways are you wasting your time and money on other things than helping the refugees?

Volunteer firefighting...participating in local government...for almost 50 years now.

Is it boasting when you answer a question about how charitable you are?

21 minutes ago, User said:

You can provide as much help as you can, but you choose not to.

Now now, don't forget the false witness thingy.

22 minutes ago, User said:

Here you go again with charity claim. It is not charity

That's why I put quotation marks around the word, oil subsidies are taxpayer funded welfare. Isn't collecting welfare when you're fit and able, not to mention filthy rich, a sin?

 

[User]

Just now, eyeball said:

Now now, don't forget the false witness thingy.

No false witness, you are doing it right now. 

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

That's why I put quotation marks around the word, oil subsidies are taxpayer funded welfare. Isn't collecting welfare when you're fit and able, not to mention filthy rich, a sin?

Just don't use the word at all. 

 

[eyeball]

@Nefarious Banana who said

C'mon, legislation is not FORCE force like strapping screaming children to a gurney at a government COVID vaccination camp was.

Get a grip.

 

[Nefarious Banana]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

C'mon, legislation is not FORCE force like strapping screaming children to a gurney at a government COVID vaccination camp was.

Get a grip.

Legislation is a force.  Go against it, and things get uncomfortable for you and yours.  You still cling to your eastern/Liberal indoctrination ... sad.

[eyeball]

When is the last time anyone recalls being taxed at gunpoint? Presumably this is an everyday occurrence in Canada.

I get an occasional email from CRA reminding me about an installment payment but I've never been threatened with a gun.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

When is the last time anyone recalls being taxed at gunpoint? Presumably this is an everyday occurrence in Canada.

 

Alberta man convicted for tax fraud: Misleading Individual Tax Returns - Canada.ca

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I get an occasional email from CRA reminding me about an installment payment but I've never been threatened with a gun.

Keep missing the payments. See what happens

Legislation is force. The compels you to do something and threatens you with a dire consequence if you don't. The laws of the land are backed up by the countries police departments who absolutely will get physical in en-FORCING the laws. 

It is beyond childish to suggest that it's not force

[eyeball]

19 minutes ago, User said:

No false witness, you are doing it right now. 

Doing what? Not picking up enough of your slack?

Do you think donating or volunteering my time to PP's campaign would be a more noble use of my time or money?

You're knocking on doors and writing cheques as we speak?

23 minutes ago, User said:

Just don't use the word at all.

You'd prefer I use the gifting of stolen property?

[eyeball]

27 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It is beyond childish to suggest that it's not force

Compared to suggesting taxation is a crime occuring at gunpoint?

Get a grip.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Compared to suggesting taxation is a crime occuring at gunpoint?

I was very clear that it wasn't a crime, that it was just simply immoral and it's still theft even if it's legal theft.

But of course you have to lie to try and make your point as usual.

Again consider the Japanese internment where they were locked up even though they're Canadian citizens and had their property stolen and sold at Penney's on the dollar to friends of the government. Are you somehow suggesting that this is morally right? Or that it isn't theft? Just because it's legal as I said doesn't make it right

[Gaétan]

He does this so that they don't eat the dogs and cats of the population like in Springfield and because there is no more room in the prisons.

[User]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

Doing what? Not picking up enough of your slack?

Do you think donating or volunteering my time to PP's campaign would be a more noble use of my time or money?

You're knocking on doors and writing cheques as we speak?

You are here choosing to use your time and money on something other than helping refugees. Instead of arguing about it with us, you could be out doing it. 

How many other ways in your life are you choosing to do other things than helping refugees? Do you watch TV? Do you go to the movies? Do you eat out? 

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

You'd prefer I use the gifting of stolen property?

No, don't call it charity. Its that simple. It is not charity. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

You are here choosing to use your time and money on something other than helping refugees. Instead of arguing about it with us, you could be out doing it.

I could but since they're getting the help they need I can work on something else.

Shouldn't you be marching up and down a sidewalk somewhere trying to get in the way?

1 hour ago, User said:

No, don't call it charity. Its that simple. It is not charity. 

Call it whatever you like it's still WJWD.

Edited November 19, 2024 by eyeball

[User]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

I could but since they're getting the help they need I can work on something else.

This started with you trying to claim:

"I simply don't have the resources to personally provide the help they need."

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Call it whatever you like it's still WJWD.

Once again, you did not answer me before. Are you now supporting a theocracy based on Christianity?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

This started with you trying to claim:

This started long before you showed up and you've been tripping over yourself trying to keep up ever since.

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"I simply don't have the resources to personally provide the help they need."

Not personally but I can go to work, earn some money, pay some taxes and contribute along with everyone else that way. This leaves me the time to volunteer for other things that need doing around here. 

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Once again, you did not answer me before. Are you now supporting a theocracy based on Christianity?

God no, its weird enough living in a democracy based on Christianity, in any case the crucifixes in our legislatures and the preamble in our Constitution already symbolize where at least some of our morals and values come from don't you think? I'm quite certain you've heard that said if not said it yourself on occasion.

If you're arguing however we should have eschewed the Bible and gone with science instead I'm in. I'm quite certain if we had the population of the Earth would have stabilized at about a 1/3 of its current size decades ago and we wouldn't need to be so preoccupied with things like refugees in an increasingly unsustainable world.  Instead we kept going forth, multiplying and having dominion over everything in sight.

And yes I have kids and grandkids too - and I even burn 150 to 300 litres of fuel a day at work. I know how much you need hypocrisy grist for your mill so.  You OTOH sound like you're even holier and righteous than blackbird. Nothing sticks to you guys.

Edited November 19, 2024 by eyeball

[User]

Just now, eyeball said:

This started long before you showed up and you've been tripping over yourself trying to keep up ever since.

Nope. I jumped in to correct your distortions of scripture. Which I did. 

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Not personally but I can go to work, earn some money, pay some taxes and contribute along with everyone else that way. This leaves me the time to volunteer for other things that need doing around here. 

I have already pointed out how you waste your time and money on other things. 

Refugees are just not that important to you after all. 

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

God no

OK, so stop asking what Jesus would do when you are arguing for support of laws in the Canadian government. 

 

[Army Guy]

On 11/18/2024 at 10:48 PM, eyeball said:

When is the last time anyone recalls being taxed at gunpoint? Presumably this is an everyday occurrence in Canada.

I get an occasional email from CRA reminding me about an installment payment but I've never been threatened with a gun.

Anything is possible with a liberal government...look what regular people were willing to do during covid...shit look at what some on this forum wanted to do with those failing to up hold the liberals covid rules...Not paying taxes...i mean come on this is canada could be shot with a ball of your own turd....

[eyeball]

On 11/19/2024 at 10:52 AM, User said:

I jumped in to correct your distortions of scripture. Which I did. 

You merely brought your own subjective interpretation of it.

On 11/19/2024 at 10:52 AM, User said:

I have already pointed out how you waste your time and money on other things. 

You may go around performing miracles and I suppose firefighting and planning commission work might be beneath your lofty standards but it still needs to be done. We're actually working on changes that could lead to better housing opportunities which could help alleviate the refugee problem so there you go. 

On 11/19/2024 at 10:52 AM, User said:

OK, so stop asking what Jesus would do when you are arguing for support of laws in the Canadian government.

Huh, now what the heck are you talking about?

[eyeball]

22 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Anything is possible with a liberal government...look what regular people were willing to do during covid...shit look at what some on this forum wanted to do with those failing to up hold the liberals covid rules..

Yeah...I doubt its WJWD but I for one was really looking forward to seeing tanks being used to clear the convoy protestors.

22 hours ago, Army Guy said:

...Not paying taxes...

The claims are that taxes are being stolen and collected from tax-payers at gunpoint in Canada.

You can't spot the h̶o̶o̶e̶y̶ difference?

[West]

On 11/17/2024 at 11:50 AM, CdnFox said:

This is absolutely insane. We have got to drastically cut back the number of refugees we will accept. We can't even afford to take care of our own people and we're paying beyond the average Canadian wage to take care of other people that we have no responsibility for

 

 

It's just the small price to pay so that all the consultants and weapons manufacturers can get rich off of blowing up their homes. 

I've met a few Ukrainian refugees and they would much rather be back in the Ukraine living their lives. Unfortunately Zelinsky pretends to care while making a lot of money off the mishandling of their affairs over there. Hunter Biden the same thing and many other is the carnage industry 

Edited November 23, 2024 by West

[Dougie93]

On 11/18/2024 at 1:37 AM, eyeball said:

 nothing that provides clearer evidence that Jesus was a lefty.

the left is towards the secular Commune in the streets

the right is towards the monarch as God's representative on earth

thus the Nazarene proclaiming "behold, your king is coming" is as right wing as one can possibly be

to wit, Christ is the ultimate monarchist

 

 

[Dougie93]

On 11/17/2024 at 5:35 PM, blackbird said:

If you don't see the insanity of this, nothing anybody says will help.

the sooner the abominable satanic socialist Government of Canada spends itself into bankruptcy, the better

let Tiberius Caesar hang himself with his own rope

souls are forged by crucible ; let it come

 

[Dougie93]

On 11/19/2024 at 1:47 PM, eyeball said:

God no, its weird enough living in a democracy based on Christianity,

it's only based on the Protestant Reformation

Glorious Revolution ; William Prince of Orange defeats the Papists upon the Banks of the Boyne River

to enact Parliamentary Supremacy in the face of tyrannical Popery

the founding of the modern liberal British state, 1 July 1690

 

[I am Groot]

On 11/18/2024 at 5:51 PM, herbie said:

First, get it through your numb skull that you don't just walk in and ask to immigrate. If you do, or you overstay your visa you DO get deported.

Except... not really.

On 11/18/2024 at 5:51 PM, herbie said:

Second if you claim refugee status we're required to look at your claim.If turned down, bye bye.

Except, not really.

 

On 11/18/2024 at 5:51 PM, herbie said:

Third if you're complaint is this isn't happening fast enough you better choke back your feelings and hire way more 'public employee' border staff.

Trying to. DEI is getting in the way.

You lefties have a habit of speaking so authoritatively about things you know nothing about.

We had about 15k asylum claims in the last year Harper was here. Then came Trudeau and his rainbow coalition and his famous invitation to the world. We had about 150k asylum claims last year, most from young men. This year we may get 190. Next year, with a combination of Trump removing the protection order from Haitians and looking to deport more, and Canada finally telling all those Indians who are here as fake students that they have to leave, there's no tellin how many claims we'll get. Could easily surpass 500k.

Our refugee system is broken. Trudeau broke it. He expanded the definition of 'refugee' so that almost anyone qualifies if they lie a little. The US, UK and France accept about a third of claims. Spain is 12%. Canada accepts 85%

Are you gay or bi or trans or just say you are? Welcome to Canada! Here's your passport! 

Now let's address the 15% who get rejected. They get a letter telling them they have to leave. We don't verify whether they did or didn't. We don't keep track. We have no equivalent of the Americans' ICE to go look for illegal aliens, detain and deport them. We really have no idea how many illegals there are in the growing ethnic enclaves and no way to find out. The odds are, though, that almost everyone just stays.

Border Services is down by about 3,000 officers according to their union leader. About 20% of RCMP positions are vacant. From what I've heard and read, classes to train new officers at both CBSA and RCMP (and the military) are being delayed because the Liberals have imposed rigid DEI requirements, insisting that every single class has a proper number of women and minorities.

 

Edited November 23, 2024 by I am Groot

[herbie]

Oh FFS your 2 not really responses are simply because it doesn't happen fast enough for your liking. Which would require more public employees to happen.
Which you want to claim some redneck DEI opinion as an obstacle.

Stop wasting time posting here and send Letters of Support to the Nazional Post if your sole objective is to be negative about everything to do about Canada.

[I am Groot]

According to a Conservative MP every refugee applicant costs the taxpayers $82,000 per year.

We had 146,800 asylum claimants in 2023. That will cost us approximately $12 billion per year. Since the time to process refugees now stands at 44 months, last year's tranch will cost us over $40 billion in total to process through the system.

But of course, we also have the asylum claimants from 2022. And the ones from 2024. The final numbers aren't in for this year but are expected to be somewhere around 185k. That's $15.2 billion this year plus, of course, the 12 billion for last year's group. So $27.2 billion this year on asylum claimants from the last two years. Let's add in the 92k claims from 2022. That's another $7.5 billion for this year. So we'll spend $34.7 billion in taxpayers money this year for these three years worth of applicants. That's across all government levels.

 

Edited November 25, 2024 by I am Groot