gatomontes99 Posted October 9, 2024 Report Posted October 9, 2024 Quote https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/09/tim-walz-electoral-college/75584019007/ "I think all of us know, the Electoral College needs to go. We need a national popular vote," Walz said to applause from donors. "But that's not the world we live in. ... Getting rid of the Electoral College is not an official position of the Harris campaign, a campaign official told USA TODAY. The harris camp wants to get rid of the EC. They didn't deny that position. What they said was, they wouldn't say that publicly. 2 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Hodad Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 Great. Just one more way that Walz is better aligned with and better representative of the American people, 63% of whom want the same thing. One person, one vote. A rancher in Wyoming should have the same voice as a dev in San Francisco. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hodad said: Great. Just one more way that Walz is better aligned with and better representative of the American people, 63% of whom want the same thing. One person, one vote. A rancher in Wyoming should have the same voice as a dev in San Francisco. Lol...so the people in large cities can dictate the nation's leadership? On a cold day in Hell. Edited October 10, 2024 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Lol...so the people in large cities can dictate the nation's leadership? On a cold day in Hell. No, let's let the people of the nation elect the president. One person, one vote. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 10, 2024 Author Report Posted October 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hodad said: No, let's let the people of the nation elect the president. One person, one vote. They do. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hodad said: No, let's let the people of the nation elect the president. One person, one vote. You just can't help yourself, can you. Cheating must be in Libbie DNA. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted October 10, 2024 Author Report Posted October 10, 2024 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You just can't help yourself, can you. Cheating must be in Libbie DNA. Notice he didn't say one alive person one vote or one citizen one vote. 😇 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Hodad Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: They do. No, they really don't. And to pretend otherwise is disingenuous. Because of the EC, the votes in less populous states are weighted to be worth more--more decisive--in picking the POTUS. That rancher in WY has about 3.6x as much influence on the presidential election as the developer in CA. There's no justice in that. And at this point it means that we're regularly electing a POTUS that the majority of Americans don't want. Edited October 10, 2024 by Hodad 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 10, 2024 Author Report Posted October 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: No, they really don't. And to pretend otherwise is disingenuous. Because of the EC, the votes in less populous states are weighted to be worth more--more decisive--in picking the POTUS. That rancher in WY has about 3.6x as much influence on the presidential election as the developer in CA. There's no justice in that. And at this point it means that we're regularly electing a POTUS that the majority of Americans don't want. No. Each citizen gets one vote for their state's EC. The EC then casts their votes. The EC is weighted so that smaller states get less votes and larger states get more votes. There is no disparity. In the vast majority of POTUS elections, the popular vote and the EC are aligned. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Hodad Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: No. Each citizen gets one vote for their state's EC. The EC then casts their votes. The EC is weighted so that smaller states get less votes and larger states get more votes. There is no disparity. In the vast majority of POTUS elections, the popular vote and the EC are aligned. You have that backward. The smaller states get proportionally larger votes, because the senate delegation is not based on population. There absolutely is a disparity. And you know it. There's just one president for the country. That person should at lest start their term with the support of a majority of Americans. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 10, 2024 Author Report Posted October 10, 2024 15 minutes ago, Hodad said: You have that backward. The smaller states get proportionally larger votes, because the senate delegation is not based on population. There absolutely is a disparity. And you know it. There's just one president for the country. That person should at lest start their term with the support of a majority of Americans. You need to go back to high school civics. Quote https://www.usvotefoundation.org/electoral-college-explained-how-us-president-elected What is the Electoral College? The Electoral College is a system that prescribes the creation of a temporary group of electors to officially elect the U.S. President every four years during the General Election. The number of electors equals the total number of representatives in Congress, namely 538. Each state appoints its electors, and the number of electors each state gets is based on its population. The number of electors changes over time because of population fluctuations. If you wonder how many electors your state has, you can consult the National Archives. Dont feel bad. Most liberals don't know how the EC works. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Notice he didn't say one alive person one vote or one citizen one vote. 😇 Interesting observation...and true. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 51 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: You need to go back to high school civics. Dont feel bad. Most liberals don't know how the EC works. Either YOU DON'T KNOW or are outright LYING. Next you're going to LIE to us about how the Senate is not stacked in favor of small states. 🤮 Problems with the Electoral College FairVote https://archive3.fairvote.org › national-popular-vote › p... The Electoral College gives disproportionate voting power to states, favoring the smaller states with more electoral votes per person. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly about The Electoral College Monmouth University https://www.monmouth.edu › Home › Archives The 2020 presidential election is fast approaching, which means it's the perfect time for a refresher on the governmental institution that has increasingly ... The challenge to democracy—overcoming the small state ... Brookings https://www.brookings.edu › articles › the-challenge-to-... Jul 6, 2022 — With the even split in the current Senate, the 50 Democratic senators represent 56.5% of the voters, while the 50 Republican senators represent ... The Electoral College Explained Brennan Center for Justice https://www.brennancenter.org › research-reports › elec... Feb 17, 2021 — In other words, each awards its electoral votes to the presidential candidate chosen by the state's voters. Forty-eight states and the District ... Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 10, 2024 Author Report Posted October 10, 2024 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: Either YOU DON'T KNOW or are outright LYING. Next you're going to LIE to us about how the Senate is not stacked in favor of small states. 🤮 Problems with the Electoral College FairVote https://archive3.fairvote.org › national-popular-vote › p... The Electoral College gives disproportionate voting power to states, favoring the smaller states with more electoral votes per person. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly about The Electoral College Monmouth University https://www.monmouth.edu › Home › Archives The 2020 presidential election is fast approaching, which means it's the perfect time for a refresher on the governmental institution that has increasingly ... The challenge to democracy—overcoming the small state ... Brookings https://www.brookings.edu › articles › the-challenge-to-... Jul 6, 2022 — With the even split in the current Senate, the 50 Democratic senators represent 56.5% of the voters, while the 50 Republican senators represent ... The Electoral College Explained Brennan Center for Justice https://www.brennancenter.org › research-reports › elec... Feb 17, 2021 — In other words, each awards its electoral votes to the presidential candidate chosen by the state's voters. Forty-eight states and the District ... What an embarrassing post for you. The Senate has nothing to do with the voting of the EC. All they do is certify that the votes EC votes are accurate and valid. As for the EC, and confirmed by my link above, the EC is based on the number of reps in the state. The number of reps in the state is based on the population of the state. More populous states have more EC votes than less populous states. I don't understand why you lie so much. Do you just not know any better or are you so dedicated to the liberal ideology that you'll do and say anything? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Aristides Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 The Electoral College grew out of the 3/5's compromise in which 3/5's of the enslaved black population would be counted toward allocating representatives, electors and calculating federal taxes. The compromise ensured southern states would ratify the constitution and gave Virginia, home of 200,000 slaves a quarter of the total electoral votes required to elect a president at that time. Sounds like a system a modern democratic country that brags about freedom would want to keep. 😆 Quote
Black Dog Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 21 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: The harris camp wants to get rid of the EC. They didn't deny that position. What they said was, they wouldn't say that publicly. Based. 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...so the people in large cities can dictate the nation's leadership? On a cold day in Hell. Why do you hate democracy? 1 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 5 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Why do you hate democracy? It's a culture war. It's not supposed to be fair. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 5 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Based. Why do you hate democracy? Why must you cheat constantly? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 5 hours ago, Hodad said: Great. Just one more way that Walz is better aligned with and better representative of the American people, 63% of whom want the same thing. One person, one vote. A rancher in Wyoming should have the same voice as a dev in San Francisco. And most of that 63% don't know what in the hell that would actually mean. Nobody wants two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner, and that is exactly how a democracy run by democrats would look. No, it's better to keep the EC - it's what we need in our Constitutional Republic. Quote
Aristides Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 When you look at electoral votes per population It takes 2.6 voters in populous states like NY, California, Texas and Florida to have the same college representation as a single voter in a state like Montana. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 10, 2024 Author Report Posted October 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: When you look at electoral votes per population It takes 2.6 voters in populous states like NY, California, Texas and Florida to have the same college representation as a single voter in a state like Montana. Bullshit. Every EC vote represents 747,000 voters. So my 1 vote in Texas is 1/747,000 and a one voter in Montana is 1/747,000 of an EC vote. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Aristides Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 14 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Bullshit. Every EC vote represents 747,000 voters. So my 1 vote in Texas is 1/747,000 and a one voter in Montana is 1/747,000 of an EC vote. Bullshit yourself. Montana has 4 votes and a population of 1,122,867 and 4 votes. That's 280,000 per vote. Texas has a population of 29,145,595 and 40 votes. That's 728,637.625 per vote. 728 divided by 280 equals 2.6 more Texans per college vote. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 41 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Why must you cheat constantly? One person one vote is good enough for our country why not for the U.S.? Quote
Deluge Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Aristides said: When you look at electoral votes per population It takes 2.6 voters in populous states like NY, California, Texas and Florida to have the same college representation as a single voter in a state like Montana. Which makes the Montana resident a minority and leftoids hate injustices toward minorities, so why are you crying? Edited October 10, 2024 by Deluge Quote
Rebound Posted October 10, 2024 Report Posted October 10, 2024 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...so the people in large cities can dictate the nation's leadership? On a cold day in Hell. No, so that the majority of voters can have a say. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
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