Trump is Senile

[gatomontes99]

20 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Despite campaigning on email security, Trump and his senior staff all used unsecured phones to communicate.

They aren't in office or transmitting secrets, are they?

[Rebound]

19 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

They aren't in office or transmitting secrets, are they?

But you are aware that he was President of the United States and he and his staff did use unsecured phones continually, like for his 24/7 Twitter ramblings. 

[User]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Out of two unfit candidates, one was forced to abandon his re-election campaign and will transition out of power (peacefully and painlessly) within months.  The other is rambling about cats and dogs being eaten, and you're arguing in favor of him being President for the next four years. 

Being President is a full time job, it is the Cheif Executive of the entire Executive Branch, the Commander of our Military Forces with great power and responsibility. 

He is unfit to be any of that right now. Right this moment. It doesn't matter if it is a day, a week, or half a year (which is what we are talking about here). Nevermind how long he has been this way before now with it being hidden from us. 

You can't argue about that... you just change the subject to what about Trump. 

What about Trump? Biden is President right now and is unfit right now. 
 

 

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

What political scandal is that?  Joe Biden isn't batshit crazy.  He's just too old, and nobody wants to see him run again.  After 3.75 years in office, I imagine you'd have trouble articulating the dangers of letting him quietly serve out the last few months of his term, or what purpose it serves to force his resignation immediately before the election. 

That the administration, including Harris, all know he is unfit and they are ignoring it. You are ignoring. All because you want to win the next election. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

What political scandal is that?  Joe Biden isn't batshit crazy. 

He very clearly is suffering from advanced dementia and parkinsons. He is absolutely mentally not fit to run the country. Anybody who's worked with dementia patients for even a few years knows he's that far gone as soon as they look at him for more than 10 seconds. 

He's not just "old".

[Rebound]

52 minutes ago, User said:

Being President is a full time job, it is the Cheif Executive of the entire Executive Branch, the Commander of our Military Forces with great power and responsibility. 

He is unfit to be any of that right now. Right this moment. It doesn't matter if it is a day, a week, or half a year (which is what we are talking about here). Nevermind how long he has been this way before now with it being hidden from us. 

You can't argue about that... you just change the subject to what about Trump. 

What about Trump? Biden is President right now and is unfit right now. 
 

 

That the administration, including Harris, all know he is unfit and they are ignoring it. You are ignoring. All because you want to win the next election. 

I think the Cabinet is perfectly capable of making that determination under the 27th Amendment and they have no political reason not to make that determination if needed.  No question Joe Biden is inarticulate, but that does not mean his decision making abilities are limited.  Those who work with him, like his cabinet members, can ascertain that and I think if he started issuing inappropriate commands to them, they would remove him, which is their Constitutional prerogative. 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I think the Cabinet is perfectly capable of making that determination under the 27th Amendment and they have no political reason not to make that determination if needed.  No question Joe Biden is inarticulate, but that does not mean his decision making abilities are limited.  Those who work with him, like his cabinet members, can ascertain that and I think if he started issuing inappropriate commands to them, they would remove him, which is their Constitutional prerogative. 

So Brandon is not running the nation. Anthony Blinken is?

Whew...I feel better already.

Hey...think we can get the Chinese to come and tell old Anthony what's what again?

[User]

36 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I think the Cabinet is perfectly capable of making that determination under the 27th Amendment and they have no political reason not to make that determination if needed.  No question Joe Biden is inarticulate, but that does not mean his decision making abilities are limited.  Those who work with him, like his cabinet members, can ascertain that and I think if he started issuing inappropriate commands to them, they would remove him, which is their Constitutional prerogative. 

Sigh... this is obfuscation. I understand the mechanisms by which he can be removed. The scandal is that he isn't being removed or forced to step down. 

 

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, User said:

That the administration, including Harris, all know he is unfit and they are ignoring it. You are ignoring. All because you want to win the next election. 

As I said, you won't (can't? ) actually articulate how Biden stepping down in the twilight months of his presidency improves anything, or what colossal blunders he's apt to make.  "Unfit" is a subjective term and judgement.  As frail and diminished as he evidently is, he's still more "fit" than the similarly old, but raving buffoon who was running against him.  I have little doubt that Joe Biden can hold it together and run a steady ship until the New Year, even if I didn't support another 4 years for him.  

"Whatabout Trump?" isn't deflection.  It's context for your criticism.  While you repeat about Biden that "he's unfit, he's unfit, he's unfit", you're advocating for a muddled fool who humiliated himself ranting about illegal immigrants kidnapping and eating family pets on a televised presidential debate the whole world was watching.  For anything but a die-hard Republican, that's a tough sell.  🤷‍♂️

[User]

7 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

As I said, you won't (can't? ) actually articulate how Biden stepping down in the twilight months of his presidency improves anything, or what colossal blunders he's apt to make. 

Improves anything?

That is like asking how a pilot who can't fly the plane anymore stepping down improves the flight. 

This is not a serious question or debate, you are just trolling with such obvious absurdity now. 

8 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I have little doubt that Joe Biden can hold it together and run a steady ship until the New Year, even if I didn't support another 4 years for him.  

Why don't you support another 4 years for him?

 

[Moonbox]

19 minutes ago, User said:

Improves anything?

That is like asking how a pilot who can't fly the plane anymore stepping down improves the flight. 

No, it's nothing like that at all.  😆

19 minutes ago, User said:

This is not a serious question or debate, you are just trolling with such obvious absurdity now. 

As you make clear with goofy analogies like the one above.  

19 minutes ago, User said:

Why don't you support another 4 years for him?

I thought he was a poor candidate in 2020 and too old to begin with.  Now he's 4 years older and in obvious decline.  

Alas, we don't always get the candidates we want, and thus the choice we had was between slow and senile, vs deranged and senile.   I'll take slow over deranged every day of the week.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

So Brandon is not running the nation. Anthony Blinken is?

By all accounts Jill Biden is. 

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

So Brandon is not running the nation. Anthony Blinken is?

Whew...I feel better already.

Hey...think we can get the Chinese to come and tell old Anthony what's what again?

No, what I said is that the cabinet has the authority to remove Biden from office if they determine that he is not capable of doing the job.  Just because he speaks poorly doesn’t mean he cannot make informed decisions.  Trump, on the other hand, is clearly crazy.  In his last administration, a senior DHS appointee wrote an anonymous editorial to The NY Times explaining that he and his cohorts had no intention of letting Trump execute irrational orders.  

[Rebound]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

By all accounts Jill Biden is. 

Oh? Please cite just one of these “accounts”. 

[User]

13 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Alas, we don't always get the candidates we want, and thus the choice we had was between slow and senile, vs deranged and senile.   I'll take slow over deranged every day of the week.  

That isn't what I asked... 

The question was Biden vs Biden... not Trump vs Biden. Why didn't you want Biden for another 4 years?

[Nationalist]

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

By all accounts Jill Biden is. 

Marvie...

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

By all accounts Jill Biden is. 

Isn't she busy enough spoon-feeding a certain adult and changing his presi-diapers?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Oh? Please cite just one of these “accounts”. 

Joe Biden turns over his ‘final’ Cabinet meeting to Jill Biden. Who’s in charge here, again? - Hindustan Times

There's more of course,  but you did ask for just one so..... 

44 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Isn't she busy enough spoon-feeding a certain adult and changing his presi-diapers?

Nope. She's a working mom so she can change his nappies AND finish his cabinet meetings   

[Moonbox]

17 hours ago, User said:

The question was Biden vs Biden... not Trump vs Biden. Why didn't you want Biden for another 4 years?

I'd just got done answering that...

18 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I thought he was a poor candidate in 2020 and too old to begin with.  Now he's 4 years older and in obvious decline.  

Who's sealioning now?  😑

[Legato]

18 hours ago, Rebound said:

No, what I said is that the cabinet has the authority to remove Biden from office if they determine that he is not capable of doing the job.  

You mean this cabinet?

 

[User]

57 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Who's sealioning now?

So, your big argument is that Biden is perfectly fit to be President right now... but somehow you know that on day 1 of the next term, he would be unfit?

The point I am getting at here is that no, you have not explained why he is fit to be President right now and then all of a sudden in a few more months he won't be good enough for you. 

Why... it is almost like you are just fine playing this scandal out for the power. 

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, User said:

So, your big argument is that Biden is perfectly fit to be President right now... but somehow you know that on day 1 of the next term, he would be unfit?

Now you're being ridiculous. 

I thought he was a bad candidate in 2020 because he was too old.  He's even older now.  He's going to continue getting even older after the election, and will statistically be dead before that 4-year term finishes.   The odds of him surviving to 2029 are bad, and the odds of him not having significant health problems over period are terrible.  The odds of him having any problems up until January are very low.  

2 hours ago, User said:

The point I am getting at here is that no, you have not explained why he is fit to be President right now and then all of a sudden in a few more months he won't be good enough for you. 

Your partisan double-standard for fit-vs-unfit is your hang-up.  

[User]

11 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Now you're being ridiculous. 

I thought he was a bad candidate in 2020 because he was too old.  He's even older now.  He's going to continue getting even older after the election, and will statistically be dead before that 4-year term finishes.   The odds of him surviving to 2029 are bad, and the odds of him not having significant health problems over period are terrible.  The odds of him having any problems up until January are very low.  

I see, so Biden is just perfectly fine right now, but at some point in the next 4 years... you just know he would then be bad. 

Except.. you have no idea when or if that is the case anymore than you do if he could be bad tomorrow. If that is your big argument, why not remove him right now from office? 

He is perfectly fit and fine to be President according to you, so no reason to drop out of the race. So... why did he drop out of the race?

13 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Your partisan double-standard for fit-vs-unfit is your hang-up.  

It is not my partisan double-standard. It is yours. You are trying to have it both ways, that Biden is perfectly fit and fine to be President right now... but certainly not fit and fine to run for President. By the way, you have the Powerball numbers too?

[Moonbox]

38 minutes ago, User said:

It is not my partisan double-standard. It is yours. You are trying to have it both ways, that Biden is perfectly fit and fine to be President right now... but certainly not fit and fine to run for President.

I didn't say anything about perfectly fine and fit. 😆

I said he's too old, but that I have little worry he can hold things together until January.  If he starts raving about dogs and cats being kidnapped and eaten by Haitians, I might re-assess.

Your double standard is your vague and nebulous definition for fit vs unfit.  We both know how funny it would be if you tried to objectively define it, and how it would be even funnier if that lens was turned on the orange buffoon.  

1 hour ago, User said:

By the way, you have the Powerball numbers too?

No, sorry.  I do have actuarial tables though.  

[User]

5 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I didn't say anything about perfectly fine and fit. 

So... he is not perfectly fine and fit, but you are cool with him still being President?

6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I said he's too old, but that I have little worry he can hold things together until January. 

Then he is not too old if you think he is holding things together. You keep contradicting yourself. 

7 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Your double standard is your vague and nebulous definition for fit vs unfit.  We both know how funny it would be if you tried to objectively define it, and how it would be even funnier if that lens was turned on the orange buffoon.  

I can objectively define it. The man can barely walk, he needs staff to tell him where to go, what to say, when to say it. He walks onto the wrong planes, can't walk around the White House without Secret Service pointing out the doors to him. He had to be rescued from the press by the Easter Bunny. 

Everyone around him knows this which is why he has had like one cabinet meeting in over a year that his wife ran for him and why he is hidden from the media and why he was run out of the campaign after his humiliating debate performance... 

The objective standards here are that Biden is no longer mentally fit to be President. 
 

You know it, the entire party knew it. And everyone was hiding it until it couldn't be hidden anymore. 

And now you and others want to gas light us and play dumb so you can win an election. 

[Moonbox]

On 9/27/2024 at 3:45 PM, User said:

I can objectively define it. The man can barely walk, he needs staff to tell him where to go, what to say, when to say it. He walks onto the wrong planes, can't walk around the White House without Secret Service pointing out the doors to him. He had to be rescued from the press by the Easter Bunny. 

There was nothing objective or defined about this little rant.  

On 9/27/2024 at 3:45 PM, User said:

And now you and others want to gas light us and play dumb so you can win an election. 

You're gaslighting yourself.  Your cringeworthy self-righteousness and outrage might be taken more seriously if you weren't doing everything you could to avoid addressing how ridiculous your own candidate is...in a thread about him.  😆