Why do we need mass immigration again?

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Yet Immigration Canada's own figures show immigrants from Europe and the US earning far higher, mostly double what immigrants from other places earn. They also integrate better and are not a security concern. So it is demonstrably better for us to get immigrants from Europe and the US and other Western countries. Our system does not work on logic, though, nor what is best for Canada. It's largely a political tool of the party in power designed to win votes. 

In the UK, the Rotherdam grooming gangs were just the start.  Is it any surprise that the Brits and Irish are rioting over this?

Our girls are in trouble.

 

 

 

[I am Groot]

And now some immigration news.

Immigration is not working very well. The huge numbers are not helping Canada and most certainly not helping immigrants says a new BMO report.

Canada’s attempt to use immigration as stimulus might be backfiring. That was the message from a new BMO report, looking at the unusually high unemployment rate for recent immigrants. The labor market for recent immigrants is eroding much faster than it is for the rest of Canada—at a rate rarely seen outside of recession. The problem is this isn’t a recession, the aggressive population growth just isn’t doing anyone a favors.

https://betterdwelling.com/canadian-immigration-policy-isnt-helping-anyone-bmo/

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

What convinced you Fauci is a serial mass murderer?

It was just after you admitted raping that little 12-year-old girl and blames harper because he didn't mandate body cameras for weirdos.

What? I thought we were just making crap out that we never said. Seem to be what you were doing

[Michael Hardner]

Here you go...

Shoe on the other foot now...

Slate and Drudge ( not Business Insider ) say Twitter is CENSORING the Cemetery story 😂

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-x-trump-arlington-national-cemetery-visit-spam-unsafe-2024-8

Edited August 30, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What? I thought we were just making crap out that we never said. Seem to be what you were doing

No you're simply retarded is all.

[CdnFox]

27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Here you go...

Shoe on the other foot now...

Business Insider says Twitter is CENSORING the Cemetery story 😂

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-x-trump-arlington-national-cemetery-visit-spam-unsafe-2024-8

Your link seems to require a subscription.

Reading what appears to be a similar story on other sites,  it would appear that  you lied entirely. 

The story is not censored at all, and can easily be found. A LINK posted on the story to npr prompts a warning that the site may be unsafe, as it does for all NPR content  - but allows the user to continue if they trust the site. 

No censorship at all.  There's no algorithm to  try to hide the content or make it less searchable, there's no penalty or issue with posting about the story, and if they follow the link off site they'll be able to go there no problem. 

Why you gotta lie like that mike?

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

No you're simply retarded is all.

LOL  wow your parents must be so proud   i would imagine you won endless kindergarten debates with such potent logic as that!  I'm just thankful you didn't pull out the 'you're a poopy head' defense  

So what are you saying? That little girl had it coming? 

Since day one i've watched you mentally freak out when you're losing a discussion and fake what other people say to try to distract from the fact you're dumber than a stamp hammer.  And that's when you're not denying what YOU'VE said almost as fast as you say it. 

This is why everyone thinks you're a liar.  What would possess you to think it's appropriate to make fake claims about what others say? Did your folks raise you thinking lying was the best way for you to make a point?

[Five of swords]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL  wow your parents must be so proud   i would imagine you won endless kindergarten debates with such potent logic as that!  I'm just thankful you didn't pull out the 'you're a poopy head' defense  

So what are you saying? That little girl had it coming? 

Since day one i've watched you mentally freak out when you're losing a discussion and fake what other people say to try to distract from the fact you're dumber than a stamp hammer.  And that's when you're not denying what YOU'VE said almost as fast as you say it. 

This is why everyone thinks you're a liar.  What would possess you to think it's appropriate to make fake claims about what others say? Did your folks raise you thinking lying was the best way for you to make a point?

You have this funny habit of expecting people to be logical with you after you demonstrate that you are incapable of logic

[Five of swords]

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

And now some immigration news.

Immigration is not working very well. The huge numbers are not helping Canada and most certainly not helping immigrants says a new BMO report.

Canada’s attempt to use immigration as stimulus might be backfiring. That was the message from a new BMO report, looking at the unusually high unemployment rate for recent immigrants. The labor market for recent immigrants is eroding much faster than it is for the rest of Canada—at a rate rarely seen outside of recession. The problem is this isn’t a recession, the aggressive population growth just isn’t doing anyone a favors.

https://betterdwelling.com/canadian-immigration-policy-isnt-helping-anyone-bmo/

Immigration is terrible for Canada which is exactly why it needs to increase dramatically.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Five of swords said:

You have this funny habit of expecting people to be logical with you after you demonstrate that you are incapable of logic

Kid  as dense as he is and as disrespected as a liar,  in the short time you've been here you've already managed to convince everyone on BOTH sides of the political spectrum that  you're little more than a grade school drop out.  You've been wrong on every fact, and completely mis reference logical fallacies and principles to the point one might think you're just flipping open a 'logical self defense 101' text and pointing randomly to words. 

But i'm sure that he's very grateful that the resident nazi is sticking up for him. 

[taxme]

On 8/28/2024 at 12:15 PM, eyeball said:

I don't think all conservatives believe that but it is why so many of you are so wiling to lick Hitler's bag.

Just like Marxists like you who do enjoy licking Stalin's bag. 😛

[taxme]

On 8/29/2024 at 11:26 AM, I am Groot said:

The problem is how we allocate visas. Each visa office is allocated a set number of immigration visas at the beginning of the year largely based on the demand from the previous few years. This means that the more people who come from somewhere, ie, India or China, the more visas the visa offices there are allocated for the following year. This tends to build on itself for obvious reasons. It's resulted in the number of visas allocated to third world countries like India being far, far higher than European countries. Which means that even when unemployment is in the middle or high teens in some European countries, only a very few people will be allowed to immigrate from there. 

Yet Immigration Canada's own figures show immigrants from Europe and the US earning far higher, mostly double what immigrants from other places earn. They also integrate better and are not a security concern. So it is demonstrably better for us to get immigrants from Europe and the US and other Western countries. Our system does not work on logic, though, nor what is best for Canada. It's largely a political tool of the party in power designed to win votes. 

A country cannot survive with having dozens of different languages, traditions, cultures and religions and think that all will go well. But thanks to multiculturalism and diversity, we will see dozens of new ghettoes popping up every where in Canada and all will be fighting for their piece of their own Canadian turf. There are many cities in the Lower Mainland of BC that are now becoming less white and more non-white. Is this what are dummy ass politicians have going here where their plans for Canada in the future is to see Canada become less white? Sure looks like it to me. Just saying. 

[Dougie93]

16 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Immigration is terrible for Canada which is exactly why it needs to increase dramatically.

well the only growth in the Canadian economy is due to mass immigration

that only gets Canada back to flat line mind you

narrowly staves off Canada being in a recession

if Canada suspended mass immigration, it would spiral into a deep recession

not a bad thing from an economics point of view

corrections are a good thing

but the Canadian electorate simply will not abide that anymore

deep recession means the Woke Progressive elites get hurled out of office in a populist backlash

hence why the Woke Progressive elites are using mass immigration to prop themselves up

[herbie]

I'll say it again:

Cut the TFW program except for farm workers. Leave it up to emploters and Cdn workers to solve their issues or fail

Cut the number of immigration workers so the time to process applications is NOT reduced.
Offer all immigrants willing, by their own free choice to post a bond committing to reside in any area 200km from a major population center for 5 years to move to the top of the list.

You don't need to cut immigration you need what amounts to "settlers" just like we needed in the early 1900s. If they sent 100 people here, those 100 would create more jobs, production and increased economic benefits than ALL the govt grants and incentives in the last 50 years. No one would complain the guy slinging burgers is from somewhere else or 'stealing jobs' if they lived on their street, started their own business, hired their kids or spent their wages on property taxes and things sold in Canada.
Would they?

right here:
A bakery - not partially reheated frozen shit from a Toronto warehouse
A clothing store
Work shoes, clothes, footwear
A corner store, a 7-11, a Kwik-E-Mart FFS
Any cafe, diner, restaurant that is open at SUPPERTIME
And one that serves anything other than burgers or f*cking chicken wings at any other time
Any store the owner orders things he knows people will buy instead of just what head office sends
There's an empty gas station & store across the street from the beach that someone could open a Dairy Queen (one of the cheapest franchises) and sell ice cream in the summer, branded, reliable burgers all year round and be the only gas station within town.
Plumber
Electrician
HandyMan
Landscaper
Building Mtc.
and more
You could make $$ intown small delivery with an EV
Nurses, hospital staff

Like FFS you might not end up Elon Musk rich but you'll make a living, afford a house, raise a family and be able to swim, fish, ski, hunt, hike, explore minutes from home.
Or you can go on moaning about how no one will give you a job and how shitty it is to live in Cement City and how immigrants are taking something away from you. I'm suggesting offering that to new immigrants as I know none of you would accept that commitment.

 

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

I'll say it again:

Cut the TFW program except for farm workers.  

Are you commenting on this? 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-crackdown-temporary-foreign-workers-1.7304819

[herbie]

Nope, more on the tone of our anti-immigration posters.

Y'know those that are gonna comment how JT's recognition that there are problems amount to failure or weakness because he changed his mind a little instead of 'doubling down'. 
I'm a fixer by nature, not a 'threw my sister's bike off the bridge cuz it got a flat tire and was useless". A 'got a new job' instead of 'quit cuz the Boss was a jerk and now the bastards won't give me EI' type. Or a  "why spend $60 to fix my  desktop when I can get a new laptop for only $600" like I deal with every day.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Nope, more on the tone of our anti-immigration posters.

Y'know those that are gonna comment how JT's recognition that there are problems amount to failure or weakness because he changed his mind a little instead of 'doubling down'. 
I'm a fixer by nature, not a 'threw my sister's bike off the bridge cuz it got a flat tire and was useless". A 'got a new job' instead of 'quit cuz the Boss was a jerk and now the bastards won't give me EI' type. Or a  "why spend $60 to fix my  desktop when I can get a new laptop for only $600" like I deal with every day.

 

You're a loser by nature and i have never seen  you propose an actual fix to anything. You simply trumpet woke left talking points as a rule, even when they've already been severely discredited by experience. 

You absoutely need to cut immigration.  We do not have enough homes for the number of people who are already here and we're building about a quarter of the homes we need for the level we're increasing the population by.

The banks get this. Economists get this. Trudeau's own people warned him about this 4 years ago. The public gets this. 

it is only the die hard left that pretends that we can continue to bring people in with the numbers that we have been without suffering horribly for it. But rather than face simple facts and basic economics you would rather pretend that somehow we can tweak the system and continue to let people suffer and to have more people out on the streets or dying due to a lack of medical services.

Trudeau's legacy and the legacy of people like you is going to be that after 150 years of being the most open country in existance, people will now be anti immigration. 

The people aren't stupid. 

[herbie]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You're a loser by nature and i have never seen  you propose an actual fix to anything

Because you can't f*cking read, I just did you halfwit.

You gotta be some special kind of dyslexic infantile pinhead to read something and then claim it said something else with every single reply to a post.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

Because you can't f*cking read, I just did you halfwit.

 

LOL - and i pointed out you didn't, you just repeated leftist talknig points that aren't any kind of practical solution.  ROFLMAO!   Maybe you should learn to read before you accuse others of not reading, you nowit.    Gawd!  I don't know why you're so stupid but i can at least respect your dedication to the role  

[I am Groot]

On 8/30/2024 at 6:06 PM, herbie said:

Cut the number of immigration workers so the time to process applications is NOT reduced.

What did you mean to say there?

 

On 8/30/2024 at 6:06 PM, herbie said:

Offer all immigrants willing, by their own free choice to post a bond committing to reside in any area 200km from a major population center for 5 years to move to the top of the list.

You don't need to cut immigration you need what amounts to "settlers" just like we needed in the early 1900s.

We don't need settlers.

 

On 8/30/2024 at 6:06 PM, herbie said:

If they sent 100 people here, those 100 would create more jobs, production and increased economic benefits than ALL the govt grants and incentives in the last 50 years.

Unless half of them went on welfare shortly afterward. 

On 8/30/2024 at 6:06 PM, herbie said:

No one would complain the guy slinging burgers is from somewhere else or 'stealing jobs' if they lived on their street, started their own business, hired their kids or spent their wages on property taxes and things sold in Canada.
Would they?

But most don't start businesses and employ others. Especially nowadays. And yes, people would complain if they brought in an immigrant to sling burgers so that their kid couldn't get any jobs. They're complaining right now for this very reason. 

 

[I am Groot]

On 8/30/2024 at 6:09 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Are you commenting on this? 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-crackdown-temporary-foreign-workers-1.7304819

You know they don't really mean this, right?

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jamie-sarkonak-trudeaus-tfw-changes-a-sorry-distraction-from-his-abuse-of-the-program

[herbie]

OMG someone really chug-a-lugged the right wing KoolAid,

Acting as if they just land at the airport, say "Hi I'm immigrating, where's my welfare cheque"....
FFS do you have so much as a clue how immigration works? Or a clue about the difference between an immigrant, a refugee or a TFW or foreign student? What a VISA is? (hint-not a charge card)

Or even been around this country and gone hundreds of miles between towns?
Not even looked at who's manning the stores, driving the cab or the name on the side of a semi? They came here because they wanted to work and live here, not to whine and snivel like pampered babies, and they're self employed at a far higher rate than Joe 3rd gen Canuck.

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

OMG someone really chug-a-lugged the right wing KoolAid,

Acting as if they just land at the airport, say "Hi I'm immigrating, where's my welfare cheque"....

Only about 15% of immigrants have to have some kind of skill to get into Canada. Actually, it's probably a lot less now as the government keeps lowering the standards and now wants to provide a 'pathway' for unskilled labour here as 'temporary' foreign workers to get PR. Much as they're now going to award instant PR to anyone who comes in to work as a personal support worker

 

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Not even looked at who's manning the stores, driving the cab or the name on the side of a semi? They came here because they wanted to work and live here, not to whine and snivel like pampered babies, and they're self employed at a far higher rate than Joe 3rd gen Canuck.

You have no idea what Indians are like. Especially the ones who scammed their way in here. Oh, they'll work, all right, and then figure out any way they can to get every single government benefit they possibly can, be it free food or welfare. Fake IDs are exploding, fake tax returns, applications for child care benefits for fictitious children, and yes, welfare to fictitious people are all growing exponentially. As is fraud of every variety.

[herbie]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Only about 15% of immigrants have to have some kind of skill to get into Canada

"They" all say so. The other 85% have withered arms and hooks for hands, eh?

[I am Groot]

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

"They" all say so. The other 85% have withered arms and hooks for hands, eh?

The other 85% are the immediate families of the principal applicant under the skilled category, refugees, and people coming in under the family class. None of whom are tested for education or job or language skills. 

Edited September 1, 2024 by I am Groot