More proof that Republicans are Putin’s useful idi*ts

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, Deluge said:

The real threat is the democrat party. It's why my attention is right where it needs to be; right here in the good ol' US of A,  

Dude...if you Yankees don't dispose of Brandon and these traitorous Libbies...we're all fcked. 

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Dude...if you Yankees don't dispose of Brandon and these traitorous Libbies...we're all fcked. 

Some stuff is happening, but it isn't fast enough. I'm debating getting even more involved, like maybe even running for office. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Of course Russia was never gonna be a NATO partner. That would have removed the purpose of NATO.

Also would have sealed its victory. But there is a contention that Bill Clinton promised something along those lines, but it was withdrawn.

[WestCanMan]

16 hours ago, Aristides said:

It isn't a lie at all. Former Republican Guard members made up a good part of Islamic state and similar groups that were opposed by Saddam. The rise of these groups was a direct result of the instability created by the invading of Iraq. Saddam was a pr*ck but at least he was a pr*ck that had been muzzled and on a leash. His Iraq was a counterweight to Iran. Once Iraq was out of the way, Iran was free to go after Israel. 

Dude, islamic state was nothing until Obama just instantly pulled out all of the US troops. 

Obama's stupidity in Iraq gave rise to islamic state and Biden's stupidity in Afghanistan led to the withdrawal debacle there. It's not rocket science. Just like Biden's border catastrophe.

You guys are all so dumb that you are constantly trying the wrong things and failing. Then when a guy like Trump comes along and fixes it all you say that it's because of the Demmies who created the problem.

There's a reason why a "success story" for you leftards always goes like this: "Obama was dumb enough to cause islamic state spring up, and they grew to the size of a large country while he was president, but Trump only managed to get rid of islamic state because he kept doing what Obama was doing..." 😂

Edited April 21, 2024 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO it’s obvious what you’re trying to do, simpleton.  

Yeah, I'm using facts and you're spitting out conspiracy BS that's so batshit crazy that even robo-tard, Hodad and Rebound aren't chiming in.

Is that some kind of record? Is the internet broken right now? 

[Aristides]

26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Dude, islamic state was nothing until Obama just instantly pulled out all of the US troops. 

Obama's stupidity in Iraq gave rise to islamic state and Biden's stupidity in Afghanistan led to the withdrawal debacle there. It's not rocket science. Just like Biden's border catastrophe.

You guys are all so dumb that you are constantly trying the wrong things and failing. Then when a guy like Trump comes along and fixes it all you say that it's because of the Demmies who created the problem.

There's a reason why a "success story" for you leftards always goes like this: "Obama was dumb enough to cause islamic state spring up, and they grew to the size of a large country while he was president, but Trump only managed to get rid of islamic state because he kept doing what Obama was doing..." 😂

So US troops should have stayed in Iraq forever? They had already been there for ten years and it was Bush 2 who put them there.

Edited April 21, 2024 by Aristides

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

The theory of containment is alive and well.  That's why we find proxy wars... Russia was never going to be a NATO partner.

I question the wellness of the theory given the number of human beings now living under the thumbs of the proxies.

Fighting a fire the wrong way can cause it to spread.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Some stuff is happening, but it isn't fast enough. I'm debating getting even more involved, like maybe even running for office. 

Ya I've thought of the same up here.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Also would have sealed its victory. But there is a contention that Bill Clinton promised something along those lines, but it was withdrawn.

Would have been the smartest thing Clinton ever did.

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

The real threat is the democrat party. It's why my attention is right where it needs to be; right here in the good ol' US of A,  

Right…Putin is not a threat, the Dems are a threat. Putin Puppet. 

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah, I'm using facts and you're spitting out conspiracy BS that's so batshit crazy that even robo-tard, Hodad and Rebound aren't chiming in.

Is that some kind of record? Is the internet broken right now? 

No you’re trying to change the subject from the fact that more than half of the current Republican Party is actively aiding and abetting Putin. 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Right…Putin is not a threat, the Dems are a threat. Putin Puppet. 

Your Putin obsession rivals your TDS. 

America good, democrats bad. 

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Your Putin obsession rivals your TDS. 

America good, democrats bad. 

Putin is an active enemy of the west, I know the  fifth columnist sympathizers of America’s enemies like yourself would rather nobody notice.
 

Republicans bad, Putin worse. 

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

Putin is an active enemy of the west, I know the  fifth columnist sympathizers of America’s enemies like yourself would rather nobody notice.
 

Republicans bad, Putin worse. 

Putin is an active enemy of the woke. He's more or less cool with normal Americans. 

[BeaverFever]

20 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Putin is an active enemy of the woke. He's more or less cool with normal Americans. 

Yeah Riiight🤣

 

Brainwashed sucker.   Thanks for proving the title of this thread is 100% accurate 

[eyeball]

15 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Putin is an active enemy of the woke.

Ah, there it is...50 shades of red.

[WestCanMan]

23 hours ago, Aristides said:

So US troops should have stayed in Iraq forever? They had already been there for ten years and it was Bush 2 who put them there.

Tactical withdrawals have been a thing since long before the Sun Tzu. The shmozzle withdrawal employed by Biden and Obama is new. 

Edited April 22, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Rebound]

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Dude, islamic state was nothing until Obama just instantly pulled out all of the US troops. 

Obama's stupidity in Iraq gave rise to islamic state and Biden's stupidity in Afghanistan led to the withdrawal debacle there. It's not rocket science. Just like Biden's border catastrophe.

You guys are all so dumb that you are constantly trying the wrong things and failing. Then when a guy like Trump comes along and fixes it all you say that it's because of the Demmies who created the problem.

There's a reason why a "success story" for you leftards always goes like this: "Obama was dumb enough to cause islamic state spring up, and they grew to the size of a large country while he was president, but Trump only managed to get rid of islamic state because he kept doing what Obama was doing..." 😂

Why did the US invade Iraq to begin with?

[WestCanMan]

20 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Right…Putin is not a threat, the Dems are a threat. Putin Puppet. 

Right... Putin is not a threat to the USA. The Dems are. That's 100% correct.

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No you’re trying to change the subject from the fact that more than half of the current Republican Party is actively aiding and abetting Putin. 

No, I'm changing the subject from 'your childish talking point' to 'the most blatantly obvious facts of the last 10 years, which prove you're wrong'. 

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

Why did the US invade Iraq to begin with?

The 2nd time? 

Because GWB is an id10t maybe? 

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Right... Putin is not a threat to the USA. The Dems are. That's 100% correct.

No, I'm changing the subject from 'your childish talking point' to 'the most blatantly obvious facts of the last 10 years, which prove you're wrong'. 

The 2nd time? 

Because GWB is an id10t maybe? 

Putin is definitely a threat to the United States. 

He’s definitely a threat to Ukraine, you’d agree with that, wouldn’t you?

So what about Poland and Sweden? Sweden just joined NATO because they think Putin is a threat. Definitely no other reason. 

But in 1937, nobody thought Hitler was a threat. The Poles didn’t think he’d dare invade Poland. The Czechs didn’t think he’d invade Czechoslovakia. Putin is an enemy of freedom and he’s violently trying to expand his borders. If he can roll over Ukraine, there’s a whole bunch of Eastern European countries he’d take next.  

Edited April 22, 2024 by Rebound

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Tactical withdrawals have been a thing since long before the Sun Tzu. The shmozzle withdrawal employed by Biden and Obama is new. 

So you think the withdrawal from Viet Nam in 1973 was well handled?

Edited April 22, 2024 by Aristides

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Putin is definitely a threat to the United States. 

Because his forces have just romped through Ukraine unopposed, right?

And because they showed so much aggression towards towards the US before 2014, right?

Are you kidding?

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He’s definitely a threat to Ukraine, you’d agree with that, wouldn’t you?

Sure. And Ukraine threatening to join NATO is the reason for this war.

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So what about Poland and Sweden? Sweden just joined NATO because they think Putin is a threat. Definitely no other reason. 

0% threat to Sweden. If one tank rolled into Sweden there would be war with NATO, member state or not. 

As an ex-military member myself, I'd fully support war against Russia the moment they went into Sweden. 

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But in 1937, nobody thought Hitler was a threat. The Poles didn’t think he’d dare invade Poland. The Czechs didn’t think he’d invade Czechoslovakia.  

In 1937 Germany's military might was equal to most of Europe.

1937 Germany would have rolled through Ukraine over a weekend.  

The survival of the planet wasn't a consideration in 1937. 

What a bullshit 'parallel'.

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Putin is an enemy of freedom and he’s violently trying to expand his borders. If he can roll over Ukraine, there’s a whole bunch of Eastern European countries he’d take next.

Step away from the crackpipe.

[WestCanMan]

 

50 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So you think the withdrawal from Viet Nam in 1973 was well handled?

No, it looked like the Afghanistan withdrawal

Edited April 22, 2024 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

The side of that plane should say "Bring Back Better" lol. 

Edited April 22, 2024 by WestCanMan

[impartialobserver]

russia is and always has been a nation that confounds a rational person. Putin.. while unwavering and consistent is the antithesis of the stereotypical, individualist American.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

russia is and always has been a nation that confounds a rational person. Putin.. while unwavering and consistent is the antithesis of the stereotypical, individualist American.

Russia's geopolitical situation is so different from America's that there's really no comparison.

Russia shares borders with North Korea, China, Norway, Finland, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Poland, Georgia, Mongolia, Latvia, Estonia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, and Lithuania. 

That's one troublesome/dangerous superpower plus the most batshit crazy/powerful dictator on the planet. 

 

No other country comes close to that, but the US is as far from it as possible. They're basically all alone as far as militarily powerful neighbours are concerned. They could fight a war against the rest of the continent they're on and win it by lunchtime. 

Ironically they come within a few km's of Russia, but that's as much Russia's problem as theirs.