Toronto Sun: Parents livid after girls’ soccer teams get annihilated by squad with five trans players

[CdnFox]

https://torontosun.com/news/world/parents-livid-after-girls-soccer-teams-get-annihilated-by-squad-with-five-trans-players

An Australian soccer club sparked outrage from parents and people on social media after five transgender players dominated a women’s tournament.

Flying Bats FC took home the Beryl Ackroyd Cup final over the Macquarie Dragons 4-0 in preseason play, and were rewarded $1,000 for their efforts, news.au.com reported.

The club went undefeated over the four-week tourney, even notching a 10-0 victory against one team.

But while they celebrated, others – particularly those on or associated with the other clubs – were fuming.

“Our girls are here to play for fun and expect to play in the female competition,” one senior club official told Australia’s Daily Telegraph.

“They did not sign up for a mixed competition,” they continued. “Some of the parents were so concerned they would not let their daughters play.”

 

The Libs are really pushing the trans agenda hard, but honestly I think the mood has turned and people feel trans "Rights" have gone way too far.  More and more we see stories like this and the public reaction isn't good.

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

 "Rights" have gone way too far.  More and more we see stories like this and the public reaction isn't good.

That's for sure.

I watched this grow from a medical access issue to a bathroom access issue. From something I could tentatively support (with conditions and caveats), to an orbital level of absurdity I"m totally opposed to. That took significant and sustained effort, they worked hard at it.

That effort showed a breathtaking absence of tactical thinking IMO, especially when you consider that all they had to do to keep most sympathetic to their cause was.... absolutely nothing.

I suspect that former sympathizers (now with buyers remorse) would site  the cumulative effect of individual absurdities as causal. Things like enforced Drag Queen story time, pornography in classrooms, the permanent mutilation of minor children, and the dismantling of women's sports.

Weaponizing a national institution (I'm talking USA here) and labeling concerned parents "domestic terrorists" didn't help either. A true "what did you think was going to happen?" scenario for activists who were pushing that agenda. 

In terms of women's sports though, I'd like to see every women exit the pool, walk off the field or leave the building when the first hulking, uncut transgender "female" arrives to compete. 

Absurdity got us here, and in the absence of courage and political will, only counter absurdity will roll it back. The worst part of this is that the time required to fix it will far exceed the time it took to break it.

It's a bit like clearcutting your entire property and then wondering why  the birds don't nest there anymore. It takes more time to grow trees than it does to slash and burn them. There's a non-aviation analogy for any exflyers in the group.

 

 

Edited March 30 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

 

It's a bit like clearcutting your entire property ..

Speaking of clear cutting, how about putting drag queens, trans politics, and sex education into one group of issues and demanding that they all be "rolled back"

If you want to have no influence, make wide general statements that could never be translated into policy.

On the other hand, I can concur that the politics of this has arrived at a point where some details shouldn't be just accepted as proposed. And then I can ask that people start to drill down and figure out why we're doing certain things, and ask for compromises all around.

I think that's probably a good way to start a real conversation on these topics.

[Zeitgeist]

The reality is that these excesses of support for certain groups diminishes the basic rights of everyone, for example, for women’s rights and religious rights.  Once we say that protecting these LGBTQ2S+ groups’ rights comes at all costs, those costs will include the majority of people accepting education and enforcement of values they don’t like or want for themselves or their children.

It’s on the level of social engineering.  People are making fun of Trump selling Bibles and talking about keeping America Judeo-Christian, but he’s absolutely right that without asserting the values upon which our civilization was founded, we will lose that civilization and way of life.

The “Christian” West has a fertility problem: Our countries have pushed the sexual revolution to the limit, supporting lifestyles that will not result in natural born children.  We are also giving free birth control to young women and girls. We are supporting unlimited abortion rights, going as far as enshrining it as a right (France).  We’re also euthanizing greater numbers of people and making life unaffordable for families in order to “save the planet” from climate change.

You have to see the overall pattern here, which is a rejection of the values that made our civilization thrive and reproduce itself (“Go forth and multiply”).  The mass decline in population of Christians will fuel immigration and further erasure of the Christian West.  People don’t seem to understand that our former values were the secret of our success.

Not all that glitters is gold.  With the rainbow revolution you’re going to see further diminishing of traditional families. Muslims will oppose it generally, but once dominantly Christian societies like Quebec are now the most vehemently opposed societies to religious expression.  The secular agenda (France, Quebec, most of urban North America) is the LGBTQ2S+ agenda.  It’s being framed as a defence against antisemitism, but it actually represents the end of Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and other religions.  It represents extension of the secular/sexual revolution and further suppression of the family and natural male and female identities.

The state becomes the parents in this brave new world. This is what’s at stake in the culture wars. Many evangelicals refer to it as spiritual warfare. They are mocked as out of touch and superstitious, but in this revolution, I’m on their side.

Edited March 30 by Zeitgeist

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Speaking of clear cutting, how about putting drag queens, trans politics, and sex education into one group of issues and demanding that they all be "rolled back"

If you want to have no influence, make wide general statements that could never be translated into policy.

On the other hand, I can concur that the politics of this has arrived at a point where some details shouldn't be just accepted as proposed. And then I can ask that people start to drill down and figure out why we're doing certain things, and ask for compromises all around.

I think that's probably a good way to start a real conversation on these topics.

Wiggly waffler.

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

If you want to have no influence, make wide general statements that could never be translated into policy.

In a polarized society, the productive conversations you ellude to are hard to come by. Consider the spectacle of a  politician suggesting that elections are no time to discuss important policy initiatives and then cringe as an entire room of party acolytes nod their little heads in unison.

 I reviewed quite a few threads on this very forum over the last while and I'm wondering how your (very own) concept of operations is working for you, especially given that your sphere of influence  is viewable through the lens of one with 42 thousand (plus) posts. 

I see opinion as being malleable and narrative as dogmatic, the trick is knowing the difference because  dogma is now bordering on religious fundamentalism.

Do you seriously think that there's anything a professional pilot with 32 years experience can add to the chemtrail" debate (right here) that's likely have the slightest effect?

If you think flight attendants with spray bottles are causing "chemtrails" then God bless you, but don't expect me to invest much time in thoughtful debate. 

That's why discussion and debate (including right here) is stifled, unproductive and impolite with a serious bent toward nasty.  As it stands now, I really think people need to experience the sort of pain that only comes with experience, they're just starting to benefit from that now IMO. There's an old saying (African proverb I think) that says experience never arrives until just after it was needed it. That will translate into votes in the next election BTW. 

So, if you were to start a thread (right here) seeking a common solution to one of societies many ills would you expect to see the end result one of collaboration, compromise, consensus of opinion, an executable plan  for the benefit of all? I don't, but I'm rooting for ya. I can tell you all about contrails but I won't, there's simply no point.

 

 

 

Edited March 30 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Venandi said:

to an orbital level of absurdity I"m totally opposed to. That took significant and sustained effort, they worked hard at it.

For sure.  There was a lot of sympathy for them, more so than even the gays to an extent because more easily recognized it as a medical issue and not a 'choice' for some reason.   Then they started to demand other people give up their rights to pander to them. And if you didn't, then you were a transphobe homophobe bigoted misogynist racist nazi who should lose their job. 

Now there's some serious backlash. I suspect people will be more and more supportive of things like the new laws in alberta and the other provinces preventing transitioning (with anything permanent anyway) till kids are of age.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Speaking of clear cutting, how about putting drag queens, trans politics, and sex education into one group of issues and demanding that they all be "rolled back"

If you want to have no influence, make wide general statements that could never be translated into policy.

 

 

That's how it's being presented now by the advocates. It's all the whole "LGBQT2RSVP" whatever group.  By what logic do you see acronyms like that and blame OTHERS for 'rolling them into one group' along with their issues?

Pretty vocal about that when it's not the left doing it there Mike.

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On the other hand, I can concur that the politics of this has arrived at a point where some details shouldn't be just accepted as proposed. And then I can ask that people start to drill down and figure out why we're doing certain things, and ask for compromises all around.

Nope  if they wanted compromise then that should have been their position when people brought legit concerns forward in the first place.  I don't think anyone from the 'other side' so to speak has faith that Trans people will have discussions in good faith looking for solutions that work for all.  I think we're at the 'just pass the laws you feel are necessary and they'll just have to live with it" stage.

Maybe you should have piped up about not rolling everything into a ball OR about the need to compromise a lot earlier when this whole mess was starting to come  to a head.

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I think that's probably a good way to start a real conversation on these topics.

I think we're past 'real conversations'  as far as policy goes.  I think people are fed up. That's kind of the point.

The whole left wing intersectional culture war and politics is coming to a head.  People don't WANT to be forced to celebrate gay trans queer pride month or risk getting fired. This is what happens when you try to steal other people's rights and are ignorant and exclusive of other, they fight back and the fact is they are a LOT bigger.  Bad fight to pick. As Bud.

[OftenWrong]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

People don't WANT to be forced to celebrate gay trans queer pride month or risk getting fired.

I found one part of the article most disturbing. "Girls were threatened with fines if they forfeited." In other words you HAD to take your beating.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

1. In a polarized society, the productive conversations you ellude to are hard to come by.

2. Consider the spectacle of a  politician suggesting that elections are no time to discuss important policy initiatives and then cringe as an entire room of party acolytes nod their little heads in unison.

3. I reviewed quite a few threads on this very forum over the last while and I'm wondering how your (very own) concept of operations is working for you, especially given that your sphere of influence  is viewable through the lens of one with 42 thousand (plus) posts. 

4. Do you seriously think that there's anything a professional pilot with 32 years experience can add to the chemtrail" debate (right here) that's likely have the slightest effect?

5. ... would you expect to see the end result one of collaboration, compromise, consensus of opinion, an executable plan  for the benefit of all? I don't, but I'm rooting for ya. I can tell you all about contrails but I won't, there's simply no point.

 

 

 

1. Did you mean "allude" ?  If so I agree, but I always hope we'll do better here at RePolitics.

2. I think that you are alluding to Kim Campbell.  The public sent her a clear message on her perspective there.

3. "Operations" in what way?  I'm a tiny burst of hot air in a hot wind storm on here.

4. I'm not sure, but I think we should all act as though we do have an impact. Kind of like how not littering makes little difference for an individual in terms of effort and outcome, but on mass makes for a cleaner street.

5. I do think that if people make for a positive public space here, it will attract more positivity. Part of that involves ignoring posters, especially taxme. When I was a moderator I had information about his actual credentials, and so he was among the first that I banned. There's a certain element that abuses anonymity to post opinions they know are not reflective of reality.

  

 

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Speaking of clear cutting, how about putting drag queens, trans politics, and sex education into one group of issues and demanding that they all be "rolled back"

If you want to have no influence, make wide general statements that could never be translated into policy.

On the other hand, I can concur that the politics of this has arrived at a point where some details shouldn't be just accepted as proposed. And then I can ask that people start to drill down and figure out why we're doing certain things, and ask for compromises all around.

I think that's probably a good way to start a real conversation on these topics.

I think each one should be looked at, and more common sense put into these policies, currently these policies are highly influenced by LGBTQ community, where there is no compromise.

Why is it just now we are looking at these policies and details, why were we not involved at the very start of this endeavor...

I find a couple faults in your proposal, first one is the largest, when have any of the parties involved sat down and discussed anything like adults...this does not happen in todays world...today we stand across from each other and scream at the top of our lungs trying to drown each other out...good luck with all of that...

Second there is no compromise, to be had...remember the parental rights issue...Parents do not have any rights, according to those involved in the education system and LGBTQ community according to them this issue is "it is a matter of life and death" or so they said.......How does one compromise with that line of thought...lines were drawn in the sand, and there is a no retreat order set in place.    

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Second there is no compromise, to be had..

Indeed, mostly because the people who previously searched for compromise have stopped looking. They see the futility of further discussion and are waiting patiently for an election that can't come soon enough.

When the results are in, I suspect the people who've been gleefully stuffing gender ideology down everyone's throat will suddenly seek the very compromise they previously ridiculed and lament the loss of moderate support they once enjoyed.

To quote my granddaughter, "I'm soooo over it."

As it turns out, "transgender day of visibility" will be celebrated on Easter Sunday this year. So ya... not only has compromise left the building, the door is locked and the lights are off.

Edited March 30 by Venandi

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

I found one part of the article most disturbing. "Girls were threatened with fines if they forfeited." In other words you HAD to take your beating.

Welcome to Trudeaupia, where you're free to do everything the gov't tells you to do. 

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I think each one should be looked at, and more common sense put into these policies, currently these policies are highly influenced by LGBTQ community, where there is no compromise.

It's like the leaders of the LGBT actually want people to hate them.

[Michael Hardner]

5 hours ago, Army Guy said:

 

1. Why is it just now we are looking at these policies and details, why were we not involved at the very start of this endeavor...

2. I find a couple faults in your proposal, first one is the largest, when have any of the parties involved sat down and discussed anything like adults...this does not happen in todays world...today we stand across from each other and scream at the top of our lungs trying to drown each other out...good luck with all of that...

3. Parents do not have any rights, according to those involved in the education system and LGBTQ community according to them this issue is "it is a matter of life and death" or so they said.......How does one compromise with that line of thought...lines were drawn in the sand, and there is a no retreat order set in place.    

1. These are unanticipated events.

2. I'm glad you said ANY of the parties.

3. Both sides restrict parental rights.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Venandi said:

Indeed, mostly because the people who previously searched for compromise have stopped looking.

Therein lies the problem -  if you're attacked too often sooner or later you stop looking for peace.  At this point people are done with being called every name in the book and have stopped listening.

This is the same issue with the CBC - now that the lefties realize there's an excellent chance it'll be completely defunded and all but evaporate because the right is sick of the bias, they frequently say "wait wait - lets talk. maybe we can fix it" .   Nope - you should have been singing that tune 10 years ago before we put a gun to your head - at this point we're not listening and just waiting  to pull the trigger.

[Venandi]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

This is the same issue with the CBC - now that the lefties realize there's an excellent chance it'll be completely defunded and all but evaporate because the right is sick of the bias, they frequently say "wait wait - lets talk. maybe we can fix it" .

Yes, the CBC is another one of those "no more compromise" issues for me and they worked tirelessly to achieve it.

Completely unnecessary, easily avoided, and totally self inflicted. It's as if some of these organizations can now read the tea leaves and are trying to get their last digs in before they hit the wall. Apparently, Veterans Affairs just tweeted "Happy March Holiday Season" to serving members and veterans. Almost like it was designed to rub smelly cheese in their faces.

Assuming it's not a hoax, it's neither cute, funny or, inclusive IMO.  It leaves me wondering whether the intent was to annoy or if it's possible that they're so out of touch with the people they represent that they really think "Happy Easter" causes offence to non-christian members of the CAF or RCMP.

News flash.... it doesn't. But what does annoy them is being continuously subjected to woke nonsense and being used as pawns in support of it. 

Imagine how many members mumbled FU under their breath as they cleared that tweet. The exact same sentiment I had when I saw it and I'm pretty sure those on deployment are saying the same thing out loud while simultaneously extending both middle fingers.  

My second thought was to feel badly for the two young ladies in the stock photo who (likely) had nothing to do with (and no advanced knowledge of) the intended message. 

 History isn't going to be kind. I think woke nonsense will age just as badly (and just as quickly) as the hateful ridicule and ill-informed rhetoric of the rabid pro-vax crowd.  

As it turns out, my next task is to hide "March Holiday Eggs" (from the "March Holiday Bunny") for my grandkids. 

 

 

Edited March 31 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

my next task is to hide "March Holiday Eggs" (from the "March Holiday Bunny")

exCUSE me!??!?!  I'm SURE you meant to say "poultry birthing capsule" ?!?!!?   You can't just ASSUME it's preferred noun like that!!!!!!  (Racist!)

And by the way - holiday (or Holy day) is offensive to agnostics - please use the more appropriate Civil Occasion Memorializing Many Intesectional Entities, or  CommieDay.   Are you TRYING to be a white supremisist?!?!

[Army Guy]

15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. These are unanticipated events.

2. I'm glad you said ANY of the parties.

3. Both sides restrict parental rights.

1. Sorry Michael but this type of topic have been going on for years now, and still no one has sat down to discuss it...I am wondering how the Olympics are going to handle this topic. 

2. One could hardly blame one side or another, but it does seem to be cemented in how they approach any topic. the Issue should be how do we break this cycle and bring all parties to the table for discussion or debate.

3. I don't think they are comparable, I'm only "assuming" your talking about abortion on the right side of the fence, and then "it is a matter of life and death" about notifying Childs parents about pronouns... 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

1. Sorry Michael but this type of topic have been going on for years now, and still no one has sat down to discuss it...I am wondering how the Olympics are going to handle this topic. 

2. One could hardly blame one side or another, but it does seem to be cemented in how they approach any topic. the Issue should be how do we break this cycle and bring all parties to the table for discussion or debate.

3. I don't think they are comparable, I'm only "assuming" your talking about abortion on the right side of the fence, and then "it is a matter of life and death" about notifying Childs parents about pronouns... 

1. Discuss what?  Any parliamentary bill goes through the usual discussion process.

2. I agree with the need for reasoned debate and I say that needs to be recognized by all sides.

3. I'm talking about parents' rights in education, access to gender care, freedom to attend school or events without harrassment.

[Venandi]

Guess who won?

It was totally "unanticipated."

Who'd a thunk...

 

I'm betting that these "unanticipated" victories will continue until women walk off the field and refuse to compete. Since organizers and governing bodies are AWOL, women will have to assume the burden themselves.

Shut em down and make em care, keep doing it until they do.

Be polite, remain dignified, quietly walk off the field and simply refuse to compete with men. Don't be embarrassed either, the people pushing this agenda and ruining your sport certainly aren't. 

 

Edited April 1 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

What about the transvehicle community? They deserve to compete too!!!!

 

MOTORCYCLIST IDENTIFIES AS A BICYCLIST - WINS RACES

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[Perspektiv]

I feel absolutely no sympathy for these girls. 

You're being run down by biological males, and your response is to play.

Enough people stand up to this, and the practice stops.

It is unnacceptable to put women with men, once puberty has fully taken on its course. Its no longer a level playing field.

Identity as you see fit. Your body and abilities speak otherwise. 

My wife barely clears 5'2, and I tower over her and have a hundred pounds on her,  easily. I have 5 times her strength. 

I have dated women who were close to my height. The strength difference was off the charts. You can't deny this, because one identifies as otherwise.

If am a parent, I would be quick to pull my kids from any teams that promote this BS.

They lose enough funds, and allowing this circus to continue becomes more difficult.

But those parents allowing their kids to play, sorry, but you deserve the humiliating 10 nil loss.

If your girl gets hit by a guy way stronger than her, and gets injured.

Well, her hospital stay and blown out knee will be based on your lack of judgement that this is not fair and equitable play.

This isn't anti gay or anti trans.

Both belong. Just not in sports that don't match their biological sex. Period.

Forcing women to unfairly put their bodies on the line vs people who could annihilate them physically, is opposite of fair play.

You should be protecting women from this. You can't possibly call yourself a feminist, and feel okay with this, in it somehow empowering women.

[Venandi]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What about the transvehicle community?

Sounds like a great new hobby, I drive a 2016 Indian Springfield... how's that for indigenous street cred, I can even use it for hunting out of season, right?.

Clearly the Canadian Kennel Club rules are out of date too.  

 

Edited April 1 by Venandi

[Zeitgeist]

Unfortunately all of this absurdity is Canada today. There’s very little political opposition to it, and people who attempt to call out what’s happening are shunned because we’ve become a country of spineless unquestioning sheep.

 

Edited April 2 by Zeitgeist

[Perspektiv]

4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

There’s very little political opposition to it

Many are opposed to it, but those in the drivers seat are incredibly loud and incredibly vocal.

Many of us are infighting over these little causes, but losing sight of the bigger picture.

We are eroding who we are as Canadians through it.

You want to destroy someone, you must start at their sense of self. Their identity. Very hard to fight, when the most basic parts of an identity now come with a question mark.

What is a woman? This is now a controversial question.

Can a man give birth? This, is now a serious question.

How many genders are there? This is now a question that not even the most qualified medical specialists can answer, and nobody has the balls to call the BS on it.

You allow people to make a joke of things, and can't get upset at the result.

Fighting with people like this is futile. You vote in the change you seek.

I wouldn't waste an ounce of breath fighting it out with a trans activist in person. I vote for who shares my beliefs.