Perspektiv Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, eyeball said: It isn't being torn to pieces by ideological hatred. Hard to want to shoot someone, when everyone is moderate politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Perspektiv said: Hard to want to shoot someone, when everyone is moderate politically What the hell is wrong with them I wonder? They don't seem to be getting with the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: What the hell is wrong with them I wonder? They don't seem to be getting with the program. They remember the nazis and are therefore naturally fearful of socialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: They remember the nazis and are therefore naturally fearful of socialists. So they must have killed off all the lefties like I said. They're probably wondering WTF is wrong with all our right wingers. No courage and no conviction obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, eyeball said: So they must have killed off all the lefties like I said. Possibly - or it's possible they just have a higher average intelligence or teach their kids to be responsible for their own lives. Same result either way. Quote They're probably wondering WTF is wrong with all our right wingers. No courage and no conviction obviously. Our mistake was letting your kind breed - too late to worry about it now. But the pendulum always swings. You and your kind have taught kids what life under the woke yoke looks like, and they're fleeing the left in horror. So there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: or teach their kids to be responsible for their own lives. Probably this. Its futile to want to change the world as one person. Its wiser, to make yourself as much a contributor socially, as possible, and be the change you seek in the world. You can't control what others do. This is the disconnect those who are woke, don't get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 18 Author Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) On 3/15/2024 at 7:47 PM, herbie said: Oh yes, and the people that make guns have no responsibility for their use either. Sugar is addictive! GAMBLING, is addictive! It causes harm not only to the addicted person, but to the whole family! They gotta sue everyone! From makers of processed food to medicines that have side-effects! Another point is, who's gonna decide the company that's going to get sued? Do you smell the shadow of another means for CORRUPTION looming in the horizon? Pay-off from companies for the government to ignore them? Edited March 18 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) On 3/17/2024 at 5:37 AM, Perspektiv said: Switzerland has among the highest gun ownership per capita, in the world. Nothing like the US, regarding mass shootings, even though a significant portion of the country owns a firearm. There is also a very high ownership of assault rifles, there. I don't buy for a second, that the US issue is a gun problem. Its a cultural issue. Switzerland also isn't facing moral decay. They're not destroying institutions, or what used to me men or women. They don't push highly divisive issues. In fact, they're insanely neutral, politically. Living in Switzerland isn't miserable. Combine misery, with lax laws on gun ownership, and a cowboy mentality regarding gun use--and you'll likely have a recipe for disaster, and people using guns as a first resort, vs a last possible one. That's part of the well regulated militia you guys ignore. Swiss have mandatory military service and a lot of these are service weapons. Yes they have high gun ownership but they also do a lot of things you refuse to do. https://switzerlandadvisor.com/switzerland-gun-ownership-facts-and-regulations/ Also, in 2013 Switzerland had a referendum on conscription and 73% voted in favour of keeping conscription. So yes. the difference is cultural. Edited March 18 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Yes they have high gun ownership but they also do a lot of things you refuse to do. I could point to many other high per capita countries that still don't struggle with lone wolf shootings. While you are correct most of these are in fact service weapons and their regulations are insanely strict, the US is more of a cultural issue than a regulation one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: I could point to many other high per capita countries that still don't struggle with lone wolf shootings. While you are correct most of these are in fact service weapons and their regulations are insanely strict, the US is more of a cultural issue than a regulation one. Regulations need to fit the culture, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Aristides said: That's part of the well regulated militia you guys ignore. Swiss have mandatory military service and a lot of these are service weapons. Yes they have high gun ownership but they also do a lot of things you refuse to do. So your argument is that if we had manditory military service in Canada we'd be safe to own whatever firearms we want? 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Regulations need to fit the culture, not the other way around. Are you saying we have a culture of murder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So your argument is that if we had manditory military service in Canada we'd be safe to own whatever firearms we want? Are you saying we have a culture of murder? Well it would help. While Swiss reservists take their weapons home, ammunition is kept at armouries. The US has a culture that is willing to accept a high body count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Aristides said: Well it would help. While Swiss reservists take their weapons home, ammunition is kept at armouries. The US has a culture that is willing to accept a high body count. The us has a high degree of service in national guards and such and many of the mass killings were done by ex military. Seems like its' something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 On 3/15/2024 at 4:26 AM, betsy said: Define, "harmful." You are unsure of its meaning? Did you look up the definition in the act? Here, I saved you 30 seconds: https://www.leg.bc.ca/parliamentary-business/legislation-debates-proceedings/42nd-parliament/5th-session/bills/first-reading/gov12-1 "disease, injury or illness" includes the following: (a) physical or mental injury or illness; (b) problematic product use; (c) addiction; (d) general deterioration of health; (e) the risk of disease, injury or illness; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 43 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: You are unsure of its meaning? Did you look up the definition in the act? Here, I saved you 30 seconds: https://www.leg.bc.ca/parliamentary-business/legislation-debates-proceedings/42nd-parliament/5th-session/bills/first-reading/gov12-1 "disease, injury or illness" includes the following: (a) physical or mental injury or illness; (b) problematic product use; (c) addiction; (d) general deterioration of health; (e) the risk of disease, injury or illness; Problematic? And you feel that this is a clear definition do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 10 hours ago, CdnFox said: Problematic? And you feel that this is a clear definition do you? What don't you get? prob·lem·at·ic /ˌpräbləˈmadik/ adjective constituting or presenting a problem or difficulty. "the situation was problematic for CdnFox" Things that people use can be problematic for society. Dummies like you who never get it are problematic. Get it now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: What don't you get? prob·lem·at·ic /ˌpräbləˈmadik/ adjective constituting or presenting a problem or difficulty. "the situation was problematic for CdnFox" Things that people use can be problematic for society. Dummies like you who never get it are problematic. Get it now? Yep - anything you don't like is 'problematic' so basically the law covers everything you don't like. That's problematic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/19/2024 at 1:26 AM, TreeBeard said: You are unsure of its meaning? Did you look up the definition in the act? Here, I saved you 30 seconds: https://www.leg.bc.ca/parliamentary-business/legislation-debates-proceedings/42nd-parliament/5th-session/bills/first-reading/gov12-1 "disease, injury or illness" includes the following: (a) physical or mental injury or illness; (b) problematic product use; (c) addiction; (d) general deterioration of health; (e) the risk of disease, injury or illness; So - a lot of products cause harm. Is the gov going to sue them all...........or, it'll just cherry-pick and discriminate? I see the huge potential for corruption! Edited March 22 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 13 minutes ago, betsy said: So - a lot of products cause harm. Is the gov going to sue them all...........or, it'll just cherry-pick and discriminate? I see the huge potential for corruption! I would tend to argue that the gov't causes harm. Can we ban Eby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 If we analyzed every product except water.. you could find that it is harmful to someone. How about folks simply take responsibility. In my 20's drank way too much mountain dew. Result... all sorts of dental problems. Have I ever sought assistance in paying for it? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 4 hours ago, impartialobserver said: If we analyzed every product except water.. DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE: UNRECOGNIZED KILLER!!! https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/10/21/dihydrogen-monoxide-unrecognized-killer/ee85631a-c426-42c4-bda7-ed63db993106/ You can make anything sound evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE: UNRECOGNIZED KILLER!!! https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/10/21/dihydrogen-monoxide-unrecognized-killer/ee85631a-c426-42c4-bda7-ed63db993106/ You can make anything sound evil Co CoA causes a deep sleep syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 25 minutes ago, Legato said: Co CoA causes a deep sleep syndrome. An apple a day keeps the doctor away. The Science Behind Apples Seeds And Cyanide Poisoning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 On 3/15/2024 at 8:47 PM, herbie said: Oh yes, and the people that make guns have no responsibility for their use either. It is a tool much like your car, truck, lawn mower, etc, etc...using anything is a choice, don't use it responsibly and it has consequences.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: It is a tool much like your car, truck, lawn mower, etc, etc...using anything is a choice, don't use it responsibly and it has consequences.. Exactly. And cars and tools are subject to regulations. Like those cars you can't buy here as they ave no bumpers, pollution control or safety standards. Drills and saw without sheilded cable or grounds. Guys that make exploding gas tanks in their Pintos are subject to lawsuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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