NY Times Poll: Trump Leads Biden in Five of Six Battleground States

[Deluge]

This is because America is sick of the woke bullshit. Even democrats are pulling their heads out of their asses. 

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-donald-trump-battleground/2023/11/05/id/1141048/

Edited November 6, 2023 by Deluge

[CdnFox]

Biden has been doing very poorly in the polls. Clearly he's not wowing people and people are fed with his crap.

But trump has to learn how to campaign better if he's going to win. He does ok talking to the base and the people who already want to vote for him - but that 'soft middle' who aren't really dems and aren't really republicans did not care for his campaigning last time.  Basically joe biden hid in his basement for the entire election cycle and just let trump talk himself out of a job.  His campaign in his first term was poor as well, it's just that hillary's was even worse and they had a race to the bottom.

It's pretty much looking like trump /biden rematch for 2024 so we'll see if he's picked up some new tricks.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Deluge said:

This is because America is sick of the woke bullshit. 

Kind of sad. To me, it looks more like the US is so sick of woke ideology that they would rather suffer through 4 more years of Trump antics and BS, than the thought of 4 more years of horrible policy from Biden.

Kind of sad, as its picking from horrific, to worse.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Kind of sad. To me, it looks more like the US is so sick of woke ideology that they would rather suffer through 4 more years of Trump antics and BS, than the thought of 4 more years of horrible policy from Biden.

Kind of sad, as its picking from horrific, to worse.

I find it strange and childish that people dislike Trumps leadership because of his antics. But let's look at these antics.

"LOCK HER UP". Trump didn't start that. The public did. Did she have it coming? Yup.

"Many fine people". Well...as POTUS it's important to be fair to ALL Americans. Only a complete id1ot would try to sell the idea that all those opposed to tearing down history, are bad people. BTW...it was the apparent good people who attacked the apparent bad people that day.

THE WALL...happens to be back in vogue among Libbies now.

CRT...is and always will be...traitorous bullshit.

The Great Capital Rally and Protest. Did Trump tell anyone to get violent or enter the capital? No? Huh...case closed. 

The rest is the Libbies desperately trying to keep Trump from running again. But he is running and will likely win.

The question that needs to be answered is, will Americans vote for successful results...or failure?

Edited November 6, 2023 by Nationalist

[ironstone]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Kind of sad. To me, it looks more like the US is so sick of woke ideology that they would rather suffer through 4 more years of Trump antics and BS, than the thought of 4 more years of horrible policy from Biden.

Kind of sad, as its picking from horrific, to worse.

If it were me, I would pick the candidate with the policies that benefitted the country more. Trump is far from perfect but he policies were better. Energy, immigration, foreign policy. All of these are total Biden failures.

[Guest]

43 minutes ago, ironstone said:

If it were me, I would pick the candidate with the policies that benefitted the country more.

So would I. I vote selfishly. 

I couldn't care less about the politics and morals of it all. What benefits me most, as a tax payer.

My sister is liberal and got upset at me voting for someone who has "shady" views on abortion.

If 9 of 10 of the boxes are ticked, I would tell a daughter to just use contraceptives for 4 years, knowing we at least wouldn't be dealing with massive financial issues.

45 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Trump is far from perfect but he policies were better.

I agree on policy, but gaslighting the public, non stop drama with people gets old. Many who voted him in, began to tire of him because of just that. The constant drama. You want a politician that is so boring and diplomatic, you don't even realize they are there, but good enough to get some stuff done. 

Great for entertainment, not so much for diplomacy.

He reels that part of him in and listens to his aides, and its a cakewalk for him.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

The rest is the Libbies desperately trying to keep Trump from running again.

Anyone can see that, but Trump while good for American interests, may put many pauses on international relationships that the US needs more than ever, now.

I just don't think his bombastic personality is what the US needs right now.

I personally would not vote for him based on the entirety of his track record.

Difference is that I don't hate him. I enjoy watching his speeches.

He's way too divisive for politics, in my opinion.

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

So would I. I vote selfishly. 

I couldn't care less about the politics and morals of it all. What benefits me most, as a tax payer.

My sister is liberal and got upset at me voting for someone who has "shady" views on abortion.

If 9 of 10 of the boxes are ticked, I would tell a daughter to just use contraceptives for 4 years, knowing we at least wouldn't be dealing with massive financial issues.

I agree on policy, but gaslighting the public, non stop drama with people gets old. Many who voted him in, began to tire of him because of just that. The constant drama. You want a politician that is so boring and diplomatic, you don't even realize they are there, but good enough to get some stuff done. 

Great for entertainment, not so much for diplomacy.

He reels that part of him in and listens to his aides, and its a cakewalk for him.

Anyone can see that, but Trump while good for American interests, may put many pauses on international relationships that the US needs more than ever, now.

I just don't think his bombastic personality is what the US needs right now.

I personally would not vote for him based on the entirety of his track record.

Difference is that I don't hate him. I enjoy watching his speeches.

He's way too divisive for politics, in my opinion.

You say...

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I couldn't care less about the politics and morals of it all. What benefits me most, as a tax payer.

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I just don't think his bombastic personality is what the US needs right now.

This is a contradiction. But then you add...

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I personally would not vote for him based on the entirety of his track record.

OK...what about Trump's track record bothers you? The economic boom? The secured southern border? The Abraham Accords? Please explain.

[Deluge]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Kind of sad. To me, it looks more like the US is so sick of woke ideology that they would rather suffer through 4 more years of Trump antics and BS, than the thought of 4 more years of horrible policy from Biden.

Kind of sad, as its picking from horrific, to worse.

Trump is absolute peace and sunshine compared to ANY democrat. It's not even a discussion. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

what about Trump's track record bothers you?

Better question is what do you think his competition does better than him? I can see what Joe Biden does better than Trump, and what Trump does better than Joe Biden.

I don't want to waste your time, if your mind is already set and not open to see both sides of a coin.

I could pick apart any politicians on flaws and qualities. If you can't, this means your bias makes you blind to their failures.

If you're not open to debate, there is truly no point. If you think that Trump didn't make any catastrophic blunders during his tenure costing him his second bid, there is nothing to discuss as you're quite entrenched in your views.

The 2020 election wasn't stolen. Trump's performance lost him the result. If we can't even talk on that with honesty, there is no use in me elaborating further with you.

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Trump is absolute peace and sunshine compared to ANY democrat. It's not even a discussion. 

Its that like breathing a sigh of relief you got syphilis and not chlamydia?

Boasting you're a breath of fresh air to woke extremists, but are pushing an extremist agenda is not what I would call an improvement.

Obviously, I would take Trump and a coat rack, vs Biden and Harris, but that's not a compliment.

[Deluge]

20 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Its that like breathing a sigh of relief you got syphilis and not chlamydia?

Boasting you're a breath of fresh air to woke extremists, but are pushing an extremist agenda is not what I would call an improvement.

Obviously, I would take Trump and a coat rack, vs Biden and Harris, but that's not a compliment.

Be honest; the ONLY reason you don't like Trump is because of what you learned from the liberal media. 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Be honest; the ONLY reason you don't like Trump is because of what you learned from the liberal media. 

Correction. What has come out of his own mouth. Actions. I watch entire rallies. I want context.

I hate being gaslit. Same reason I despise most politicians.

[CrakHoBarbie]

Will the resolute desk fit in a prison cell?

I guess we're gunna find out?

[Guest]

Dismissing someone for seeing flaws in a politician is one blind to the flaws to begin with.

Calling me a liberal, when am a centrist who leans right, makes absolutely no sense. As of being a liberal robs one of common sense. 

It doesn't. Tons of rational liberals.

[CrakHoBarbie]

All those in Donald's cult should keep the faith.

But, you really should remember, polls are not elections 

Case in point:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/23/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjO8-KK7a-CAxUQKEQIHbx9DRgQFnoECAMQAg&usg=AOvVaw0_aupaMcCIBSCMh5bZhMWS

Edited November 6, 2023 by CrakHoBarbie

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Correction. What has come out of his own mouth. Actions. I watch entire rallies. I want context.

I hate being gaslit. Same reason I despise most politicians.

It's more than that, unless you equally despise ALL politicians. DO you despise all politicians equally? 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Will the resolute desk fit in a prison cell?

I guess we're gunna find out?

 I doubt we will - he'll lose and it won't matter or he'll win - in which case he'll use the "Steve Martin" defense

Well EXCUUUUUUUUUUSE ME!    

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Will the resolute desk fit in a prison cell?

I guess we're gunna find out?

There's no wait and see. He'll get the whole floor. 

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, Deluge said:

This is because America is sick of the woke bullshit. Even democrats are pulling their heads out of their asses. 

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-donald-trump-battleground/2023/11/05/id/1141048/

I don't think it's because of the woke BS at all. Leftards never tire of it.

I think that they just can't help but notice that the whole eastern world north of the equator (Europe, ME, Asia) is embroiled in war or close to it. It's suddenly hard to make ends meet. People's college children are now marching with a pro-genocide mob.  Life hasn't just gotten worse, it's getting scary. Life wasn't hard or scary for Americans in 2019 - the peak of western civilization. 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't think it's because of the woke BS at all. Leftards never tire of it.

I think that they just can't help but notice that the whole eastern world north of the equator (Europe, ME, Asia) is embroiled in war or close to it. It's suddenly hard to make ends meet. People's college children are now marching with a pro-genocide mob.  Life hasn't just gotten worse, it's getting scary. Life wasn't hard or scary for Americans in 2019 - the peak of western civilization. 

This is probably more true than not. Most people judge their politicians by whether or not their lives get better or at least stay the same. Fair or not, life is deteriorating under Biden.

Edited November 6, 2023 by CdnFox

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't think it's because of the woke BS at all. Leftards never tire of it.

I think that they just can't help but notice that the whole eastern world north of the equator (Europe, ME, Asia) is embroiled in war or close to it. It's suddenly hard to make ends meet. People's college children are now marching with a pro-genocide mob.  Life hasn't just gotten worse, it's getting scary. Life wasn't hard or scary for Americans in 2019 - the peak of western civilization. 

That's why they have to be expelled to Gaza and the Middle East. There they can hold their "save Hamas" rallies while Muslim terrorists scoop them up and throw them off building tops. 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Deluge

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Dismissing someone for seeing flaws in a politician is one blind to the flaws to begin with.

Calling me a liberal, when am a centrist who leans right, makes absolutely no sense. As of being a liberal robs one of common sense. 

It doesn't. Tons of rational liberals.

Tons? List five rational liberals and we can talk about them. 

[Jack9000]

I don't even support trump(think he is a fool tbh) I just want him to win cause its not my country and it makes great media coverage at this point haha

[Rebound]

All of a sudden, Republicans believe in polls. 

[robosmith]

14 minutes ago, Rebound said:

All of a sudden, Republicans believe in polls. 

But still not when it comes to making policy.