Complicit in War Crimes

[CITIZEN_2015]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They drop leaflets in advance of the attacks to warn people, they allow inspectors to travel with their troops on the front to see what they see at the same time as they capture territory, they've done a lot.

What more could they do?

Targetting individual atmed terrorists one by one rather than indiscriminate bombings. They do suffer a lot more casualties this way though, I admit.

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What more could they do?

Make peace. They've done it before.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Targetting individual atmed terrorists one by one rather than indiscriminate bombings. They do suffer a lot more casualties this way though, I admit.

They take more casualties, lose more tanks, get less accomplished, etc.

The death toll in Palestine is troubling, but you have to factor more into it than just "the number of Israelis killed on Oct 7th. 

The fact that they want to commit genocide against Israel is important too. Right now Hamas is just shooting bombs, will they ever get their hands on any chemical or biological weapons?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Make peace. They've done it before.

No they haven't. If that were true there'd be no war today.

We made peace with the US. No war since.  That's how peace works.  They have never made peace in that region. All they've done is created extended cease fires.

4 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Targetting individual atmed terrorists one by one rather than indiscriminate bombings. They do suffer a lot more casualties this way though, I admit.

That's just not reasonably possible. Basically if that was the requirement they'd never win. The bad guys  would just get away.

 

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They have never made peace in that region. All they've done is created extended cease fires.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

 

Does this look like peace to you?

 

 

They have never made peace.  They just negotiate ceasefires till the next war.

If they want to have peace then they must achieve total victory over the enemy. Which is what they're doing.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

They have never made peace.  They just negotiate ceasefires till the next war.

If they want to have peace then they must achieve total victory over the enemy. Which is what they're doing.

Can we just vote religion off the planet? 

If there's a war for that, sign me up. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Can we just vote religion off the planet? 

If there's a war for that, sign me up. 

Well if history is any indication give it a couple of weeks and there probably will be.

[eyeball]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They have never made peace.  They just negotiate ceasefires till the next war.

If they want to have peace then they must achieve total victory over the enemy. Which is what they're doing.

No they're not. To coin the phrase...they're simply mowing the lawn again instead of getting to the root causes.  Progressives have proven they can make peace -  conservatives clearly suck at it. They're just not interested.

[ironstone]

I wonder if this is Ben Shapiro and...Gaetan?

 

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No they're not. To coin the phrase...they're simply mowing the lawn again instead of getting to the root causes. 

You mean they haven't in the past and in the past they've 'mowed the lawn".   I quite agree with you - what needs to happen now is to tear the sod up right down to the roots and then watch the field every day and exterminate the slightest hint of a weed or blade when it puts it's head up.

Hamas and it's supporters - which appears to be most of gaza - do not want peace. You can't have peace without removing them one way or another.  It has been tried numerous times. It always fails.

So instead of mowing the grass, they really need to look at whaterver it takes to kill the grass permanently. and if that means salting the earth it grew in, if that's the only way - then so be it.

  I notice once again you put all of this on the israelis - as if hamas and gaza has nothing to do with it and have been begging for peace and the israelis just won't listen. There is no peace with gaza as long as gaza refuses to accept israel, and that's just not happening.

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I notice once again you put all of this on the israelis - as if hamas and gaza has nothing to do with it and have been begging for peace and the israelis just won't listen. There is no peace with gaza as long as gaza refuses to accept israel, and that's just not happening.

And Palestine will remain as unspeakable as ever?

Good luck with that.

[CdnFox]

49 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I wonder if this is Ben Shapiro and...Gaetan?

 

This guy was just irrational and spewing complete nonsense and it was hard to understand what he was trying to say.  Gaetan isn't that articulate

[WestCanMan]

For those of you who are utterly convinced that "muslims are the real victims" in Israel/Palestine, check this out: https://www.nccm.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Policy-Recommendations_NCCM.pdf

The National Council on Canadian Muslims published ^that^ piece about "Islamophobia in Canada". 

It focuses entirely on 2 attacks against muslims here, and there's no mention at all that 6 muslim terrorist attacks against Canadians were planned or executed before the first attack on them, then they conducted 5 more terrorist attacks before the 2nd, and final, attack against them. 

Muslims committed 86% of the terrorist attacks in the muslim <--> Canadian category, they killed 20 Canadians, and yet THEY'RE CLAIMING THE VICTIM STATUS ALL FOR THEMSELVES HERE. They take no accountability whatsoever, despite the fact that they've committed SEVEN TIMES AS MANY ATTACKS AGAINST CANADIANS as there were against them, and they did the first 6, ever. 

Their attacks/thwarted attacks include an attempted train derailment, an armed attack on the HoC, and one of their attacks had plans for three 1-tonne fertilizer bombs. Then they all cry in unison "WE'RE THE ONLY VICTIMS!!!" 

Edited December 1, 2023 by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

For those of you who are utterly convinced that "muslims are the real victims" in Israel/Palestine, check this out:

Secular progress is the only real victim here. However mangled the angry discourse gets the question posed in the above video is just a variation of the question about Palestinian rights that still remains unanswered after 75 years.

I'm not holding my breath - it took 359 years for the just about the most conservative organization in history to acknowledge Galileo was right.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Secular progress is the only real victim here. However mangled the angry discourse gets the question posed in the above video is just a variation of the question about Palestinian rights that still remains unanswered after 75 years.

I'm not holding my breath - it took 359 years for the just about the most conservative organization in history to acknowledge Galileo was right.

So you've given up on logic and reason and just spout whatever fantasies pop into your head now?  Right and left wing didn't even exist until just before the 1800's.   But sure - they were controlling things centuries before they came into existance because that's how time works.

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Right and left wing didn't even exist until just before the 1800's.

Progressives and conservatives were with us before Neanderthals.

You guys were screaming in fear and raining shit down from your perches in the highest branches of the trees when we were bravely exploring the ground below for greener less smelly pastures.  You'd still be stuck pissing up a tree if it wasn't for us.

Edited December 2, 2023 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you've given up on logic and reason 

Just now? In Dec 2023?

?

When eyeball abandoned logic the mayor of Chicago was a T-Rex. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Progressives and conservatives were with us before Neanderthals.

No, they weren't. That's an amazingly stupid thing to say.  It wasn't even with us DURING neanderthals. 

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You guys were screaming in fear and raining shit down from your perches in the highest branches of the trees when we were bravely exploring the ground below for greener less smelly pastures.  You'd still be stuck pissing up a tree if it wasn't for us.

ROFLMAO -   wow, looks like your brain cracked and you went into full on hissy fit mode about an hour  early today   LOL 

Always a pleasure to watch your poor little leftist brain overheat and melt down from trying to think with it every day  

[I am Groot]

On 11/30/2023 at 2:58 PM, WestCanMan said:

Just remember that the whole point of this little exchange is that I was right from the very first second that I made that comment

Nope. You were wrong. And silly. And acting like a bonehead. I really don't get why some of you people over there on the fringes are so enamored of Russia and its shitty leader. The place is a dump. And the pathetic efforts of its corrupt military ought to be ample display of what a kleptocracy looks like.

[eyeball]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, they weren't. 

Go read up on the evolution of the amygdala sometime.

In a structural MRI study, those with political conservative views versus those with political liberal views had greater gray matter in the right amygdala,72 a structure sensitive to fear and threat.

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Go read up on the evolution of the amygdala sometime.

Is that where you feel your brain might be broken?

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In a structural MRI study, those with political conservative views versus those with political liberal views had greater gray matter in the right amygdala,72 a structure sensitive to fear and threat.

And? Did you think that mean that 'conservatives' and 'progressives' existed in the past?

I think the damage may extend beyond your amygdala.

If it turns out people who like jackson pollock paintings have greater fear and threat matter that would NOT mean that Jackson pollock existed 3000 years ago.

Do you have ANY gray matter? Sometimes i wonder.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And? Did you think that mean that 'conservatives' and 'progressives' existed in the past?

That's right, your ancestors were amongst the frightened little conservative monkeys afraid to leave the safety and security of the trees and mine were amongst the brave risk taking little progressive monkeys who led our species down to a new world below.

Like I said though I think it was mostly to get as far from you screeching shit flinging conservatives as possible. Too bad you didn't stay put but I guess you finally know a good thing once it's been shown to you.

Of course that's about the time you rewrite history to try and show the good stuff was always your idea.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Go read up on the evolution of the amygdala sometime.

In a structural MRI study, those with political conservative views versus those with political liberal views had greater gray matter in the right amygdala,72 a structure sensitive to fear and threat.

You know all about the amygdala now eyeball? 

Nice try. It's actually the key to controlling your brain, and it's how the alt-left mainsewer media plays you like a violin. 

You think that they just "rush to get the story out, so they're quite often wrong", but that's not what they're doing at all. They're controlling the way that you think. They're choosing how you feel about the major emotionally charged events that define our current political landscape. They tell a HUGE LIE AT THE BEGINNING of a story, followed by a series of back-peddles that you don't really notice, 'til you're finally at the point where there's nothing left of their initial story, but deep down you've never changed the way you feel about it.

Sound familiar, Strad-boy? 

It's how the Jussie story went. "OMG LOOK AT THE.... oh. Next?"

it's how the Covington kid story played out. "OMG LOOK AT THE.... oh. Next?"

It's how the G Floyd narrative went. "OMG LOOK AT THE.... oh. Next?"

It's how the M Brown narrative went. "OMG LOOK AT THE.... oh. Next?"

It's how the Brionna story went. "OMG LOOK AT THE.... oh. Next?"

It's how every terrorist attack plays out. "THIS WASN'T A MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACK!''... oh. Next?"

"This was just a car crash, involving 78 pedestrians."

It's how the narrative of the covid "vaccines" went. They literally set the all-time record for back-peddling and you still feel the exact same way about them as you did before you got your first, shiny Trump-Jab. Their efficacy went all the way from "They're safe, and you don't need to worry about getting sick. Buuuuuut, you still have to stay away from the dirty, dirty unvaxed because their covid will kill you" all the way down to "They killed a lot of people who were healthy enough that they didn't even need to worry about covid, and Canadians are dying in droves after taking the jab, but let's just call the pandemic over now."

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You know all about the amygdala now eyeball?

And the anterior cingulate cortex as well. 

In 1968 a debate was held between conservative thinker William F. Buckley, Jr., and liberal writer Gore Vidal. It was hoped that these two members of opposing intellectual elites would show Americans living through tumultuous times that political disagreements could be civilized. That idea did not last for long. Instead Buckley and Vidal descended rapidly into name-calling. Afterward, they sued each other for defamation.

The story of the 1968 debate opens a well-regarded 2013 book called Predisposed, which introduced the general public to the field of political neuroscience. The authors, a trio of political scientists at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Rice University, argued that if the differences between liberals and conservatives seem profound and even unbridgeable, it is because they are rooted in personality characteristics and biological predispositions.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/conservative-and-liberal-brains-might-have-some-real-differences/

Now I also realize that it takes a right and left wing to fly and I can also grok how evolution works and the collective benefit of having a few shit flinging reactionary monkeys on hand. Despite all desire to just leave you behind I get that we need you people to help keep our species on track between doing what's appropriate for our survival and what isn't. I also get you think you can lead but the fact is you can barely keep up to new ideas and concepts (see Galileo)never mind know what to do with them.  As for you getting anywhere on your own without the left...like I said you'd still be up in a tree.