Don't buy the LIE about Israel

[Rebound]

32 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah... ask yourself why you are talking to such a person.  How bored can you be ?

Took that long to get the truth out of him.  What do they call the diagnosis for that? 

[reason10]

7 hours ago, Rebound said:

So you definitely agree that the Native American Indians should own all the land in North America, right? 
 

The situation in Israel is far more complex than saying, “Hey, we lived here 2,000 years ago so you need to leave.” And it’s also more complex than, “The Ottoman Empire controlled this land in the 1800’s; they lost it to Britain after WW I, and Britain decided to create a Palestinian and Jewish State.” 
 

Complex problems don’t have simple solutions. You’ve never been to Israel (or Florida), yet you think you can sit in your playpen, look at a 2,000 year old map and know what’s best for everybody, and anyone who disagrees with you is a nitwit.  That’s ridiculous. 

They are not Native Americans. America didn't exist when they got here. And if you're going to slap a name on them, might as well be the name of a nation that treated them like shit. (You really ARE that fugging STUPID.)

This is not an issue of a conquering nation taking over that land. This is a bunch of rag heads committing cowardly terrorism, (which I'm sure you heartily approved off since it would get rid of those pesky Jews.)

I live in Florida. I am better educated than you. There are mounds of alligator feces that are better educated than you.

Just crawl back under your rock, NAZI.

On 10/16/2023 at 11:54 AM, robosmith said:

FACT: your book of MYTHS, is NOT FACT. It is a bunch of STORIES which contradict each other.

Wrong, ADOLF.

Those are facts, and facts don't care about your NAZI feelings, fraulien.

[robosmith]

23 hours ago, Deluge said:

FACT: You don't have any facts. Point out the contradictions, myths, etc., or stfu. 

Here ya go:

Quote

 

Biblical Contradictions

American Atheists

https://www.atheists.org › Activism › Resources

 

 

 

Biblical Contradictions · The Sabbath Day · The Permanence of Earth · Seeing God · Human Sacrifice · The Power of God · Personal Injury · Circumcision · Incest.

 

‎Did Jesus Exist? · ‎What is Atheism? · ‎Ethics Without Gods

 

Some Reasons Why Humanists Reject The Bible

American Humanist Association

https://americanhumanist.org › Are You Humanist?

 

 

 

The Bible is an unreliable authority because it contains numerous contradictions. Logically, if two statements are contradictory, at least one of them is false.

 

 

Bible Contradictions?

Answers in Genesis

https://answersingenesis.org › contradictions-in-the-bible

 

 

 

This claim goes that there are two creation accounts: Genesis 1 and 2 give different accounts. In chapter 1, man and woman are created at the same time after ..

 

You STFU about your book of MYTHS. 

 

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Here ya go:

 

You STFU about your book of MYTHS. 

 

Not after I rip your shitty source to threads. 

Stay tuned.

[Deluge]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Here ya go:

No, here YOU go: 

Exodus 20:8 is a commandment for all those who follow God. 

Romans 14:5 speaks to the power of personal choice. We all have been given the power to choose. Will we choose to follow God's commandment to keep the sabbath day holy, or will be a heathen like you, and make up our own rules? 

You see, pervert, God wants us to make a decision one way or another. He doesn't put up with "luke warm" losers like today's impartial observers, as he "spews them out of His mouth" - he wants us to stand with Him, but we will stand in hell if we don't stand with Him. 

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” — Exodus 20:8

“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” — Romans 14:5

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Took that long to get the truth out of him.  What do they call the diagnosis for that? 

My doctor calls it "being a bad person".

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Murder two million people, including one million children under the age of 18? WOW.  

Is there another choice? Egypt won't take them. Nobody will. They will never become part of the society. They will always attack the state. More people living within the society will be raped killed blowed up real good...every 5 or so years.

No. They gave Israel the excuse it needs to do some much needed "housekeeping". They must clean house or resign themselves to perpetual theat from within their own country.

[BeaverFever]

Well this seems as good a thread as any to mention the American right-wing nut who stabbed a 6-yr old boy to death  in Illinois  

 

Prosecutors: Alleged Killer of 6-Year-Old Muslim Boy Listened to Far Right Radio

Right-wing figures have spent the last weeks stoking violence against Muslims and Palestinians.

 

The man suspected of fatally stabbing 6-year-old Palestinian American boy Wadea Al-Fayoume and wounding his mother, Hanan Shaheen, on Saturday was a regular listener of conservative talk radio — and hosts’ programming on the Hamas attack on Israelis ultimately led him to carry out the horrific attack, prosecutors have said.

Joseph Czuba, 71, made his initial appearance in court in Will County, Illinois, on Monday after he allegedly stabbed Al-Fayoume 26 times; as he appeared in court, mourners held a funeral for the young Muslim boy at a local mosque. Shaheen was not in attendance because she was hospitalized after the attack.

According to prosecutors, Czuba’s wife said that he regularly listens to conservative talk radio and that, in days before the attack, became irritated overthe call for a supposed “national day of jihad” on October 13 — a bunk and perhaps purposeful misinterpretation by right-wing figures of a comment made by a former leader of Hamas to Reuters last Wednesday.

Czuba had been listening to right-wing radio coverage of the Hamas attack in the days before the attack, his wife told detectives, and wanted Shaheen to move out. He evidently believed that he was personally endangered by Shaheen’s presence and that Shaheen “was going to call Palestinian friends to come and harm” him and his wife, said Michael Fitzgerald, a Will County assistant state’s attorney, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.…

…

The “global day of jihad” rhetoric, for instance, may have played a role in the young boy’s death. 

In his Reuters interview, former Hamas leader Khaled Meshal never called for a “global day of jihad,” but the phrase quickly spread across far-right forums and social media networks like X, formerly Twitter. Users referred to Muslim people with racial slurs and told each other to stock up on weapons and ammo.

Prominent conservative figures, including Republican members of Congress, amplified the message. Several Fox Newshosts warned about the “day of jihad,” while Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk — who hosts a show that is broadcast on right wing radio stations — said that“we have invited some of the most disgusting people on the planet into the West” and that “we shouldn’t be surprised” if something ad were to happen on the “global day of jihad” on the 13th.

Ultimately, there was no organized global protest or other action that conservatives had spread fear about. But there was at least one incident of violence carried out against a Palestinian-American family, allegedly motivated by the fear mongering.

https://truthout.org/articles/prosecutors-alleged-killer-of-6-year-old-muslim-boy-listened-to-far-right-radio/

20 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

They will never become part of the society.

Palestinians are legally not allowed to become part of Israeli society, Israel doesn’t want that and never has. 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

No, here YOU go: 

Exodus 20:8 is a commandment for all those who follow God. 

Romans 14:5 speaks to the power of personal choice. We all have been given the power to choose. Will we choose to follow God's commandment to keep the sabbath day holy, or will be a heathen like you, and make up our own rules? 

You see, pervert, God wants us to make a decision one way or another. He doesn't put up with "luke warm" losers like today's impartial observers, as he "spews them out of His mouth" - he wants us to stand with Him, but we will stand in hell if we don't stand with Him. 

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” — Exodus 20:8

“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” — Romans 14:5

Do you think God calls people “sluts” and “losers” and “perverts” whenever they express an opinion he disagrees with the way you do?

God doesn’t exist but if he dod you you’re failing every one of his lessons. 
 

And again you continually choose words “pervert” and “slut” as your go-to insults on topics that have nothing whatsoever to do with sex.  Its so weird, dude. So weird. This random sex-based aggression of yours is getting disturbing. I’m betting that if you don’t already have dead hookers in your basement you sure enjoy fantasizing about it. 

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Well this seems as good a thread as any to mention the American right-wing nut who stabbed a 6-yr old boy to death  in Illinois  

 

Prosecutors: Alleged Killer of 6-Year-Old Muslim Boy Listened to Far Right Radio

Right-wing figures have spent the last weeks stoking violence against Muslims and Palestinians.

 

The man suspected of fatally stabbing 6-year-old Palestinian American boy Wadea Al-Fayoume and wounding his mother, Hanan Shaheen, on Saturday was a regular listener of conservative talk radio — and hosts’ programming on the Hamas attack on Israelis ultimately led him to carry out the horrific attack, prosecutors have said.

Joseph Czuba, 71, made his initial appearance in court in Will County, Illinois, on Monday after he allegedly stabbed Al-Fayoume 26 times; as he appeared in court, mourners held a funeral for the young Muslim boy at a local mosque. Shaheen was not in attendance because she was hospitalized after the attack.

According to prosecutors, Czuba’s wife said that he regularly listens to conservative talk radio and that, in days before the attack, became irritated overthe call for a supposed “national day of jihad” on October 13 — a bunk and perhaps purposeful misinterpretation by right-wing figures of a comment made by a former leader of Hamas to Reuters last Wednesday.

Czuba had been listening to right-wing radio coverage of the Hamas attack in the days before the attack, his wife told detectives, and wanted Shaheen to move out. He evidently believed that he was personally endangered by Shaheen’s presence and that Shaheen “was going to call Palestinian friends to come and harm” him and his wife, said Michael Fitzgerald, a Will County assistant state’s attorney, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.…

…

The “global day of jihad” rhetoric, for instance, may have played a role in the young boy’s death. 

In his Reuters interview, former Hamas leader Khaled Meshal never called for a “global day of jihad,” but the phrase quickly spread across far-right forums and social media networks like X, formerly Twitter. Users referred to Muslim people with racial slurs and told each other to stock up on weapons and ammo.

Prominent conservative figures, including Republican members of Congress, amplified the message. Several Fox Newshosts warned about the “day of jihad,” while Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk — who hosts a show that is broadcast on right wing radio stations — said that“we have invited some of the most disgusting people on the planet into the West” and that “we shouldn’t be surprised” if something ad were to happen on the “global day of jihad” on the 13th.

Ultimately, there was no organized global protest or other action that conservatives had spread fear about. But there was at least one incident of violence carried out against a Palestinian-American family, allegedly motivated by the fear mongering.

https://truthout.org/articles/prosecutors-alleged-killer-of-6-year-old-muslim-boy-listened-to-far-right-radio/

Palestinians are legally not allowed to become part of Israeli society, Israel doesn’t want that and never has. 

You Libbies sure allege a lot. All over the edges.

And if Palestinians can't be citizens, that should be changed. Although I'm not sure I believe that.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Do you think God calls people “sluts” and “losers” and “perverts” whenever they express an opinion he disagrees with the way you do?

God doesn’t exist but if he dod you you’re failing every one of his lessons. 
 

And again you continually choose words “pervert” and “slut” as your go-to insults on topics that have nothing whatsoever to do with sex.  Its so weird, dude. So weird. This random sex-based aggression of yours is getting disturbing. I’m betting that if you don’t already have dead hookers in your basement you sure enjoy fantasizing about it. 

Well, we all have our weaknesses, and yours is leftism. 

The hope is that one day you will be able to pull your head out of your ass, but I doubt it.  

[BeaverFever]

6 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Well, we all have our weaknesses, and yours is leftism. 

The hope is that one day you will be able to pull your head out of your ass, but I doubt it.  

At least you admit you’re a sexual weirdo thats the first step to getting better. Now please release that poor girl at your next truck stop and seek help. 

[Deluge]

9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

At least you admit you’re a sexual weirdo 

Actually that's you. Your side of the political fense is into all kinds of weird shit, and I wouldn't be surprised if you, yourself, were something akin to a registered sex offender. 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Deluge

[BeaverFever]

15 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Actually that's you. Your side of the political fense is into all kinds of weird shit, and I wouldn't be surprised if you, yourself, were something akin to a registered sex offender. 

My side of the “fense” (sic) is open about whatever shit we’re into, weird or otherwise. . YOUR side is the one where people have SECRET weird shit.  Just ask the secret swingin’ Falwells  or lifelong pedophile Dennis Hastert 

[Mako]

16 hours ago, Mako said:

Facts are facts.

Here are some more sources:

https://www.jpost.com/international/the-czech-arms-that-saved-israel-650710

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2979/israelstudies.22.3.06?typeAccessWorkflow=login

https://www.leftvoice.org/how-joseph-stalin-helped-create-the-state-of-israel/

I sense some skepticism so here are some more sources:

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/your-history-book-missed-israel-used-nazi-weaponry-during-its-independence-war-164093

https://www.haaretz.com/2006-05-09/ty-article/the-communists-who-saved-the-jewish-state/0000017f-e58d-dc7e-adff-f5ad44b90000

Rebound, I’m waiting for you to admit your error.

Edited October 18, 2023 by Mako

[Mako]

The U.S. should be supporting peace instead of favoring one side in this ugly endless conflict.

https://www.businessinsider.com/hamas-israel-palestine-war-bombing-hospital-un-airstrikes-gaza-2023-10

[OftenWrong]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Well this seems as good a thread as any to mention the American right-wing nut who stabbed a 6-yr old boy to death  in Illinois  

 

Prosecutors: Alleged Killer of 6-Year-Old Muslim Boy Listened to Far Right Radio

Right-wing figures have spent the last weeks stoking violence against Muslims and Palestinians.

 

The man suspected of fatally stabbing 6-year-old Palestinian American boy Wadea Al-Fayoume and wounding his mother, Hanan Shaheen, on Saturday was a regular listener of conservative talk radio — and hosts’ programming on the Hamas attack on Israelis ultimately led him to carry out the horrific attack, prosecutors have said.

Joseph Czuba, 71, made his initial appearance in court in Will County, Illinois, on Monday after he allegedly stabbed Al-Fayoume 26 times; as he appeared in court, mourners held a funeral for the young Muslim boy at a local mosque. Shaheen was not in attendance because she was hospitalized after the attack.

According to prosecutors, Czuba’s wife said that he regularly listens to conservative talk radio and that, in days before the attack, became irritated overthe call for a supposed “national day of jihad” on October 13 — a bunk and perhaps purposeful misinterpretation by right-wing figures of a comment made by a former leader of Hamas to Reuters last Wednesday.

Czuba had been listening to right-wing radio coverage of the Hamas attack in the days before the attack, his wife told detectives, and wanted Shaheen to move out. He evidently believed that he was personally endangered by Shaheen’s presence and that Shaheen “was going to call Palestinian friends to come and harm” him and his wife, said Michael Fitzgerald, a Will County assistant state’s attorney, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.…

…

The “global day of jihad” rhetoric, for instance, may have played a role in the young boy’s death. 

In his Reuters interview, former Hamas leader Khaled Meshal never called for a “global day of jihad,” but the phrase quickly spread across far-right forums and social media networks like X, formerly Twitter. Users referred to Muslim people with racial slurs and told each other to stock up on weapons and ammo.

Prominent conservative figures, including Republican members of Congress, amplified the message. Several Fox Newshosts warned about the “day of jihad,” while Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk — who hosts a show that is broadcast on right wing radio stations — said that“we have invited some of the most disgusting people on the planet into the West” and that “we shouldn’t be surprised” if something ad were to happen on the “global day of jihad” on the 13th.

Ultimately, there was no organized global protest or other action that conservatives had spread fear about. But there was at least one incident of violence carried out against a Palestinian-American family, allegedly motivated by the fear mongering.

https://truthout.org/articles/prosecutors-alleged-killer-of-6-year-old-muslim-boy-listened-to-far-right-radio/

Palestinians are legally not allowed to become part of Israeli society, Israel doesn’t want that and never has. 

Actually saw news that authorities were mobilizing police and resources on the so-called muslim day of rage. Yes it was taken seriously and riots did happen in some places.

Here is a link showing many links.

https://www.google.com/search?q=muslim+day+of+rage

So... right- wing myth? Nope I don't think so. Not according to all those links.

Also google search reveals they called for "Days of rage" several times before, dor example in 2017. In that case there were violent protests in US.

That is why authorities took this seriously.

Vancouver police activate command centre after Hamas calls for 'day of rage'

Compounding their fear was the amount of celebration that took place in some communities when news of the initial attack by Hamas came out. Yes even here in Canada.

 

 

 

 

[Rebound]

16 hours ago, Deluge said:

Not after I rip your shitty source to threads. 

Stay tuned.

Source? The Bible.  

[ExFlyer]

On 10/16/2023 at 5:09 PM, taxme said:

The bible is a book full of bullshit. I tried to read the bible one time, and i gave up. The wording in the bible is enough to confuse even the brightest of geniuses who would dare to read it. The bible is a book that was written by you know who. 

Enough said. ?

So, what do you say about the Quran? Or Torah? Or Magra?  Or any other book from any other religion?

[Deluge]

42 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Source? The Bible.  

Robobobo's source. The link to all the atheistic bullshit opinions on the Bible.

I'm using the Bible to rip his bullshit atheistic source to shreds.

[Deluge]

13 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

My side of the “fense” (sic) is open about whatever shit we’re into, weird or otherwise. . YOUR side is the one where people have SECRET weird shit.  Just ask the secret swingin’ Falwells  or lifelong pedophile Dennis Hastert 

YOUR side of the fence enables wrong behaviors, therefore, Hastert and the Falwells are leftists at their core.

ANYONE who gets into weird shit of any kind is automatically left. 

[Gaétan]

The Jews are people converted by rabbis in different countries like the Christians they have no historical right over Israel, the real Hebrews are the Palestinians converted to the Muslim religion

[robosmith]

20 hours ago, Deluge said:

No, here YOU go: 

Exodus 20:8 is a commandment for all those who follow God. 

Romans 14:5 speaks to the power of personal choice. We all have been given the power to choose. Will we choose to follow God's commandment to keep the sabbath day holy, or will be a heathen like you, and make up our own rules? 

You see, pervert, God wants us to make a decision one way or another. He doesn't put up with "luke warm" losers like today's impartial observers, as he "spews them out of His mouth" - he wants us to stand with Him, but we will stand in hell if we don't stand with Him. 

^Your INTERPRETATION is not from the bible. LMAO

20 hours ago, Deluge said:

“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” — Exodus 20:8

“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” — Romans 14:5

Thanks for ^this contradiction. I am "persuaded in my own mind" to NOT "keep the Sabbath holy" cause I prefer Romans.

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Is there another choice? Egypt won't take them. Nobody will. They will never become part of the society. They will always attack the state. More people living within the society will be raped killed blowed up real good...every 5 or so years.

No. They gave Israel the excuse it needs to do some much needed "housekeeping". They must clean house or resign themselves to perpetual theat from within their own country.

You are a sick man to refer to genocide as "housekeeping." ?

[Deluge]

27 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. ^Your INTERPRETATION is not from the bible. LMAO

2. Thanks for ^this contradiction. I am "persuaded in my own mind" to NOT "keep the Sabbath holy" cause I prefer Romans.

1. The correct interpretation is what I gave you in my last response. I'm sorry, but there is no workaround for stunted perverts. You're either WITH God or you're against God. 

2. You've been indoctrinated by Jesus hating goat worshippers. No wonder you hate the Israelis.

You see, robogoat, when someone like you attempts to read the Bible he has to consider ALL passages in the Bible, not just the ones that seem to help his flaccid arguments. 

Exodus 20:8 is a commandment for followers of God. 

Romans 14:5 speaks to personal choice. We ALL have a choice. I CHOOSE to keep the Sabbath Day holy and You CHOOSE not to. I will return back to God because I CHOSE to follow His commandments. You will rot in hell because you CHOSE NOT to follow His commandments. 

Do you see how that works? 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Deluge

[Deluge]

19 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Well this seems as good a thread as any to mention the American right-wing nut who stabbed a 6-yr old boy to death  in Illinois  

 

Prosecutors: Alleged Killer of 6-Year-Old Muslim Boy Listened to Far Right Radio

Right-wing figures have spent the last weeks stoking violence against Muslims and Palestinians.

 

The man suspected of fatally stabbing 6-year-old Palestinian American boy Wadea Al-Fayoume and wounding his mother, Hanan Shaheen, on Saturday was a regular listener of conservative talk radio — and hosts’ programming on the Hamas attack on Israelis ultimately led him to carry out the horrific attack, prosecutors have said.

Joseph Czuba, 71, made his initial appearance in court in Will County, Illinois, on Monday after he allegedly stabbed Al-Fayoume 26 times; as he appeared in court, mourners held a funeral for the young Muslim boy at a local mosque. Shaheen was not in attendance because she was hospitalized after the attack.

According to prosecutors, Czuba’s wife said that he regularly listens to conservative talk radio and that, in days before the attack, became irritated overthe call for a supposed “national day of jihad” on October 13 — a bunk and perhaps purposeful misinterpretation by right-wing figures of a comment made by a former leader of Hamas to Reuters last Wednesday.

Czuba had been listening to right-wing radio coverage of the Hamas attack in the days before the attack, his wife told detectives, and wanted Shaheen to move out. He evidently believed that he was personally endangered by Shaheen’s presence and that Shaheen “was going to call Palestinian friends to come and harm” him and his wife, said Michael Fitzgerald, a Will County assistant state’s attorney, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.…

…

The “global day of jihad” rhetoric, for instance, may have played a role in the young boy’s death. 

In his Reuters interview, former Hamas leader Khaled Meshal never called for a “global day of jihad,” but the phrase quickly spread across far-right forums and social media networks like X, formerly Twitter. Users referred to Muslim people with racial slurs and told each other to stock up on weapons and ammo.

Prominent conservative figures, including Republican members of Congress, amplified the message. Several Fox Newshosts warned about the “day of jihad,” while Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk — who hosts a show that is broadcast on right wing radio stations — said that“we have invited some of the most disgusting people on the planet into the West” and that “we shouldn’t be surprised” if something ad were to happen on the “global day of jihad” on the 13th.

Ultimately, there was no organized global protest or other action that conservatives had spread fear about. But there was at least one incident of violence carried out against a Palestinian-American family, allegedly motivated by the fear mongering.

https://truthout.org/articles/prosecutors-alleged-killer-of-6-year-old-muslim-boy-listened-to-far-right-radio/

Palestinians are legally not allowed to become part of Israeli society, Israel doesn’t want that and never has. 

Poor sap. He was clearly out of his mind. I wonder what meds he was taking? 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Deluge