eyeball Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, blackbird said: People that don't know anything about it often say that. But it is actually completely false. One would have to study a little theology to understand there are major differences between the religions to realize they are not the same God. No it's clearly the same god just worshipped differently is all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Abrahamic_religions#:~:text=God is monotheistic,features%3A[3] 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted October 20, 2023 Author Report Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Or onus is on you to disprove it....and not using pro religion or christian websites and documents. Nope. He made a false statement without anything to back it up. I will therefore study this and give a reply with actual facts for you and him. I already gave a few facts in an above posting, but will give more concrete information. Edited October 20, 2023 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted October 20, 2023 Author Report Posted October 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: No it's clearly the same god just worshipped differently is all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Abrahamic_religions#:~:text=God is monotheistic,features%3A[3] Since you seem to be sincerely trying to make a point on this subject, I will study that wikipedia article and reply to you. It is a fair question because most people do not know or study the reasons why they are different. So it is easy to incorrectly assume they are all similar. There are some common roots and characteristics, but Islam has different beliefs that do not agree with Christianity or Christian theology. I will try to pinpoint some major differences. There are people who do try to push the idea that it is the same god, but this idea is seriously misleading. It gives the idea that it doesn't matter which of three religions one follows. That is a fatal mistake. Will say more after I examine this link you posted. Quote
blackbird Posted October 20, 2023 Author Report Posted October 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, eyeball said: No it's clearly the same god just worshipped differently is all. If that were true, then why is there this split between Islam and Christianity in the world? It is not as simple you are claiming. You make it sound like the differences are superficial or insignificant. I will reply later. Quote
Army Guy Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 This is an example of how easy it is today to destroy a mans career, his ability to stay at his own home, all becasue of his opinion, this clearly violates the meaning of what freedom of speech is all about. Don't get me wrong i do not agree with his opinions, however i do agree with his freedom to express them regardless of what i think. I find that what happened to this doctor is an example of todays cancel culture ..., and if we should cancel anything it would be this culture were when we don't like what someone is saying we destroy it regardless of consequences...maybe that is what we need more robust means to defend against and punish those that use this cancel culture... Ontario doctor suspended, his address published after pro-Palestinian social media posts (msn.com) 2 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, blackbird said: If that were true, then why is there this split between Islam and Christianity in the world? Politics. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted October 20, 2023 Author Report Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: No it's clearly the same god just worshipped differently is all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Abrahamic_religions#:~:text=God is monotheistic,features%3A[3] OK, here is a web page that shows the differences in two columns. On the left is Christianity and on the right is Islam. Instead of me trying to write it out, it makes more sense to simply post the link. If you are interested you can take a look through it. Christianity vs Islam - Difference and Comparison | Diffen One of the basic differences I would consider important is Islam does not believe that Jesus Christ is God. This is an essential belief in Christianity. He is the Son of God, the second person of the trinity. Islam also does not believe in the fallen, corrupt nature of all humans and the need for everyone to be born again by faith in Jesus Christ in order to have their sins forgiven. So whether one wants to call the god of Islam the same god as the God of Christianity really doesn't mean much. The beliefs systems are entirely different. According to the Christian Bible, the King James Version, there is no salvation apart from believing in Jesus Christ, which means believing he is the Son of God who was crucified for our sins and was raised from the dead. Read the gospel of John. " 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. " John 14:6 The only way to God is through His Son, Jesus Christ. That is not in Islam. Edited October 20, 2023 by blackbird Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Nope. He made a false statement without anything to back it up. I will therefore study this and give a reply with actual facts for you and him. I already gave a few facts in an above posting, but will give more concrete information. You are big time wrong...again. He made a claim and you said he lied. Now, you prove he lied or his statement stands. Make your facts from a non religious unbiased document, like I said. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
WestCanMan Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Ontario doctor suspended, his address published after pro-Palestinian social media posts (msn.com) The article won't open up for me, but I'm guessing that the MSN title is just more leftist garbage? There's a huge difference between being "pro-Palestinian" and "supporting Hamas's terrorist attack", and only one of those things will result in any kind of disciplinary action from a major medical association like Ontario's... That title is like if a guy says that he loved the holocaust and MSN says that he "supports a previous German gov't". Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, blackbird said: OK, here is a web page that shows the differences in two columns. On the left is Christianity and on the right is Islam. Ummmm, the biggest difference is that the majority of islamic countries are extremely bigoted to the point of being violent, and all over the world, wherever there are enclaves of muslims, they start to demand their own country, and commit terrorist attacks to achieve it. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, blackbird said: You picked the worst time to criticize Israel because this is all about the terrorist organization Hamas attacking and killing around 1,200 innocent civilians, men, women, children and babies. Criticizing Israel since what happened on the Oct. 7th massacre and hostage taking has to be the dumbest thing in the world. But that is exactly what all the Palestinian protesters are doing now. It obviously looks like they support terrorists. No, my posts are about the killing of 4000 Palestinian civilians over 1500 of them being defenseless children. I have already condemned the killing of 1400 Israeli civilians by Hamas but criticism is one sided as pro-Israel powerful lobbyists suppress any criticism of Israel all over the world by intimidations, accusations and even banning individuals for expressing opposition to murderous acts by Israeli army. So you claim to be a Christian and you support the killing of children in Gaza? SHAME ON YOU. You believe in love your neighbor and love your enemy and with your support for Israel you support their murderous actions against defenseless women and children in Gaza. Shame. People like you give bad fame to Christianity. Be answerable to your God and Christ later. Edited October 20, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
impartialobserver Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 When it comes to Israel and the Middle East..it feels like lather, rinse, and repeat. Every year.. stories like this come about and folks get worked up. After a while they simmer down and go on to something else. Just not convinced that this will end in my lifetime and not much I can do to change it. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: No, my posts are about the killing of 4000 Palestinian civilians over 1500 of them being defenseless children. 1) Hey dummy, Hamas is still firing rockets at Israeli civilians right now. They have fired over 5,000 rockets "at Israeli children" (using your communication style) since the time you started posting about how bad Israel is. 2) You'd think that you would have learned about Hamas's propaganda and lies before, but nope, as soon as Hamas says anything you just blurt it out as if it's carved in stone. 3) Do you remember that at one point you said "Victory to Israel"? How did you expect them to achieve victory? Did they just have 1 day? Do you think that you can root out 50,000 baby-killing losers in one day, or were you lying when you said that? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 3) Do you remember that at one point you said "Victory to Israel"? How did you expect them to achieve victory? Did they just have 1 day? Do you think that you can root out 50,000 baby-killing losers in one day, or were you lying when you said that? Ground invasion to kill Hamas fighters in battles NOT dropping powerful explosives on civilians killing women and children. If I knew Israel is going to achieve victory by mass murder of women and children I would have never said that. Fight the terrorists not defenseless civilians. Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Ground invasion to kill Hamas fighters in battles NOT dropping powerful explosives on civilians killing women and children. If I knew Israel is going to achieve victory by mass murder of women and children I would have never said that. Fight the terrorists not defenseless civilians. Don't tell the Israelis how to fight lol. They know a bit more than you. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
OftenWrong Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 42 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: When it comes to Israel and the Middle East..it feels like lather, rinse, and repeat. Every year.. stories like this come about and folks get worked up. After a while they simmer down and go on to something else. Just not convinced that this will end in my lifetime and not much I can do to change it. The region is carved up by the superpowers, each seeking to control a part of it to secure their needs for oil. It's to their advantage to keep the ME in a state of perpetual turmoil, to keep gas prices down. Israel is the fly in the punchbowl. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Don't tell the Israelis how to fight lol. They know a bit more than you. Yes they do. They have a history on that. KILLING DEFENSELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN. 1 Quote
impartialobserver Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: The region is carved up by the superpowers, each seeking to control a part of it to secure their needs for oil. It's to their advantage to keep the ME in a state of perpetual turmoil, to keep gas prices down. Israel is the fly in the punchbowl. Does it not seem a bit silly to get worked up about this when you know it is going to happen in six months or so from now? Nothing will have changed. Same story but different calendar date 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Yes they do. They have a history on that. KILLING DEFENSELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN. Whatever Hamas boy. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
blackbird Posted October 20, 2023 Author Report Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: No, my posts are about the killing of 4000 Palestinian civilians over 1500 of them being defenseless children. I have already condemned the killing of 1400 Israeli civilians by Hamas but criticism is one sided as pro-Israel powerful lobbyists suppress any criticism of Israel all over the world by intimidations, accusations and even banning individuals for expressing opposition to murderous acts by Israeli army. So you claim to be a Christian and you support the killing of children in Gaza? SHAME ON YOU. You believe in love your neighbor and love your enemy and with your support for Israel you support their murderous actions against defenseless women and children in Gaza. Shame. People like you give bad fame to Christianity. Be answerable to your God and Christ later. You clearly are avoiding the central fact. Hamas attacked Israel first and murdered at least 1,400 defenceless civilians and took about 200 hostages to Gaza. You ignore the fact Hamas attacked Israel first. Any country has a right to defend itself against terrorists. Why do you support terrorists? Quote
blackbird Posted October 20, 2023 Author Report Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Make your facts from a non religious unbiased document, like I said. He made a religious statement. Of course the answer comes from a religious context. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, blackbird said: He made a religious statement. Of course the answer comes from a religious context. All your "facts" come from religious propaganda LOL Severely biased Edited October 20, 2023 by ExFlyer 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, blackbird said: You clearly are avoiding the central fact. Hamas attacked Israel first and murdered at least 1,400 defenceless civilians and took about 200 hostages to Gaza. You ignore the fact Hamas attacked Israel first. Any country has a right to defend itself against terrorists. Why do you support terrorists? Again you are lying and by accusations trying to suppress the facts that I have condemned Hamas and called them murderers and asked for their elimination. Who attack who first is debatable. The Jewish settlers who terrorized Palestinian civilians born there by killing them into leaving their homeland started this ONGOING war. Next time you go to church remember your support causing more deaths on innocent women and children. Remember this when you are praying for peace in the world and love your neighbors. Religious hypocrites. Btw, I challenged you in your earlier statement that I supported Hamas and supported attack on Israeli civilians to provide proof and you failed and I said if you don't provide evidence that I did all that, then you are same as the preacher who pray to God in the morning and molest a child at night because you pretend to be a Christian and lie with the same mouth. Edited October 20, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 Cease fire by both sides. Stop killing of civilians. Both sides are committing crimes against humanity. Hamas terrorists started it but Israel later proven to be as bad by its brutal reaction. CEASEFIRE NOW. 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, impartialobserver said: Does it not seem a bit silly to get worked up about this when you know it is going to happen in six months or so from now? Nothing will have changed. Same story but different calendar date Just a lot of innocent people sacrificed on both sides. Quote
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