Trudeau liberals invite Nazi war criminal to the Parliament and call him a hero -Speaker's Nazi veteran invite 'profoundly embarrassing' Trudeau says

[CdnFox]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/speaker-s-nazi-veteran-invite-profoundly-embarrassing-trudeau-says-as-rota-faces-calls-to-resign-1.6576350

Speaker's Nazi veteran invite 'profoundly embarrassing' Trudeau says, as Rota faces calls to resign

Tensions flared in the House of Commons on Monday over opposition calls for House of Commons Speaker Anthony Rota to resign after apologizing to the House of Commons for inviting, recognizing and leading the chamber in a standing ovation for a man who fought for a Nazi unit during the Second World War.

The incident took place during Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's Friday address to Parliament, and now the New Democrats and Bloc Quebecois say Rota should step down.

While letting Rota's apology stand, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called it a "profoundly embarrassing" situation, and said he was thinking about the impact it is having on Jewish parliamentarians.

Speaking briefly to reporters on Parliament Hill, Trudeau did not take responsibility, saying that "it's going to be really important that all of us push back against Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation, and continue our steadfast and unequivocal support for Ukraine."

 

So - for those who don't know the guy actually served with the Wafen SS during ww2.

[CdnFox]

well-  any good will the PM might have salvaged with his housing initiatives just went out the window,

This is a solid body blow for him. Inviting the nazi's to get a standing ovation in the house as 'defenders of the ukraine' is pretty bad. Trudeau can blame it on his speaker but he's going to wear it no matter what

So in 2 short weeks he's pissed off the muslim vote, the seik vote, the jewish vote and the parents.

If he's polling above 19 by xmas it'll be a miracle.

[QuebecOverCanada]

There is already a thread for that; 

 

 

[CdnFox]

And it's gone off about the war itself which is great - this is more about the political fall out.

Got a comment? Or something useful? No? Run along. 

Trudeau just blew his wad trying to get away from the bad press he had all summer by announcing his 'solution mode' housing and relief stuff, the india bombshell and that parents are anti-gay etc.

THe impact of this is pretty massive and undoes all that hard work. THis is going to have a serious impact on his standing with people i think. It makes the libs look beyond incompetent.

[herbie]

But does the other thread have an utter lie Trudeau derangement title too? I haven't looked yet, this was at the top of the list/

[Nefarious Banana]

9 minutes ago, herbie said:

But does the other thread have an utter lie Trudeau derangement title too? I haven't looked yet, this was at the top of the list/

The 'leader' of Canada is a political cripple . . . . let him wear this one herbie.  He's sidestepped/bus tossed most of those around him . . . . karma ?

[Canadian_Cavalier]

46 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

There is already a thread for that; 

 

 

I made that before most people knew about this. The story has significantly evolved since then so I think this new thread is actually justified. Big things are happening.

[QuebecOverCanada]

11 minutes ago, Canadian_Cavalier said:

I made that before most people knew about this. The story has significantly evolved since then so I think this new thread is actually justified. Big things are happening.

We discussed and are discussing all about that in the other thread... This is just petty and makes the conversation hard to follow if everything is spread in different threads.

But that's great that you're protecting your favorite Fox. (pun intended)

30 minutes ago, herbie said:

But does the other thread have an utter lie Trudeau derangement title too? I haven't looked yet, this was at the top of the list/

The scandal wasn't so big of itself that we have to make 2 threads for the same topic in less than 72 hours... like you said, we must make another thread just to say the exact same thing once again.

[Canadian_Cavalier]

28 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

We discussed and are discussing all about that in the other thread... This is just petty and makes the conversation hard to follow if everything is spread in different threads.

But that's great that you're protecting your favorite Fox. (pun intended)

The scandal wasn't so big of itself that we have to make 2 threads for the same topic in less than 72 hours... like you said, we must make another thread just to say the exact same thing once again.

This scandal is massive. Videos of it have tens of millions of views on social media. Calls for Trudeau to resign haven't been this strong in a very long time.

I don't pledge allegiance to CdnFox. I'm just glad my original post walked so more discussion of it could run.

Plus, there's not much else to talk about. This thing utterly dominates news headlines.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

But does the other thread have an utter lie Trudeau derangement title too? I haven't looked yet, this was at the top of the list/

LOL - it's the absolute cast iron truth   That is PRECISELY what happened.

This guy was invited by the liberals to speak as a ukrainian war vetran from ww2.  LIves in teh speaker's riding.

the speaker introduced him and said he served in ww2 - thanked him for his service, and lead the house in a standing ovation lead by the libs.

Turns out he DID serve in ww2 -  with the SS. That'd be hitlers SS.

ANd trudeau has called it 'profoundly embarrassing

So sorry  your buddies messed up, but the title is 100 percent accurate'.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

We discussed and are discussing all about that in the other thread... This is just petty and makes the conversation hard to follow if everything is spread in different threads.

But that's great that you're protecting your favorite Fox. (pun intended)

The scandal wasn't so big of itself that we have to make 2 threads for the same topic in less than 72 hours... like you said, we must make another thread just to say the exact same thing once again.

LOL - ohh dear,  is this another bitter left wing supporter

This is actually a big deal. Russia is already making pretty serious use of it, It really plays to their whole "we had to invade to stop the nazi's" narrative that they started the war with.  Here's pictures of the leader of the ukraine applauding a nazi ss solder along with canada who's praising him.

This should NEVER have happened. It's going to cause massive issues.  And it doesn't help right at a time when we're picking a fight with india.

Sorry it leaves you butthurt - but yeah - important story.

What's going to be more interesting is how it impacts them and how they handle it

HE should be firing the speaker right this second - but he didnt' and i think he's going to wear that

Edited September 26, 2023 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

Looks like senior liberals agree with getting rid of the speaker

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/senior-liberals-anthony-rota-1.6978150

Senior Liberals believe Anthony Rota should step aside, Radio-Canada sources say

 

Honestly - i don't know why they didn't do this immediately. That's a no brainer.  Now if he doesn't do it it looks like he's excusing "bring a nazi to work day" and if he does do it he looks like he's weak and being pressured into it.

He handled this terribly.

[Nexii]

Because circle the wagons often works, and has worked before. 

It's just a sign of a government that's out of touch, same as the India thing. Both incidents were entirely preventable, but we have a government that cares more about image than substance

Couldn't help but notice Trudeau got in his daily negging by implying this was embarassing for all Canadians and not just his party

[Aristides]

Any MP can run for speaker as long as they aren't in cabinet and they are elected by all MP's in a secret ballot, not appointed by the PM.  Other than resigning, I don't know what mechanism there is for getting rid of a speaker.

[Aristides]

Rota just resigned. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/speaker-anthony-rota-resignation-1.6978422

Edited September 26, 2023 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Rota just resigned. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/speaker-anthony-rota-resignation-1.6978422

Man that should have been day one.  Now it just makes them look weak.  Still - he couldn't stay. It would have been a constant focus for jewish and other groups.

 

Edit -  you gotta love the CBC Here's how the describe the guy:

Ukrainian soldier with Nazi ties

HE SERVED WITH THE SS FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!  HE WAS  A NAZI SOLDIER!!!

But they try to pass it off like 'oh he just had ties to the nazis. Like - he knew some and one nazi owed him 50 bucks or something.

Edited September 26, 2023 by CdnFox

[Legato]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

 

Edit -  you gotta love the CBC Here's how the describe the guy:

 

[Nexii]

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Man that should have been day one.  Now it just makes them look weak.  Still - he couldn't stay. It would have been a constant focus for jewish and other groups.

 

Edit -  you gotta love the CBC Here's how the describe the guy:

Ukrainian soldier with Nazi ties

HE SERVED WITH THE SS FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!  HE WAS  A NAZI SOLDIER!!!

But they try to pass it off like 'oh he just had ties to the nazis. Like - he knew some and one nazi owed him 50 bucks or something.

Another good one here: Trudeau calls invite for Ukrainian who fought with Nazis 'deeply embarrassing'

That poorly constructed grammar could be interpreted as that he fought against Nazis. At least they could have said 'alongside'. But even that's disingenuous, it was a Nazi division

Though isn't it ironic that the left is downplaying Nazism, an extreme right-wing ideology

Edited September 26, 2023 by Nexii

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Nexii said:

Another good one here: Trudeau calls invite for Ukrainian who fought with Nazis 'deeply embarrassing'

That poorly constructed grammar could be interpreted as that he fought against Nazis. At least they could have said 'alongside'. But even that's disingenuous, it was a Nazi division

Though isn't it ironic that the left is downplaying Nazism, an extreme right-wing ideology

Well in general reporters and their editors have gone to the dogs when it comes to grammar at the best of times but at least that MIGHT just be incompetence. But saying a Waffen SS soldier has 'Ties" to the nazis is like saying Hitler had "Some association" with the third reich.

[Nexii]

Fighting with Nazis gives the implication that somehow he wasn't a Nazi himself. Otherwise you'd just say that he served in a Nazi battalion

Would you describe one of our vets as 'a person who fought with Canadians'? That's nearly meaningless, and could imply any number of countries that we do joint operations with. No, you'd call them a retired Canadian soldier

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Nexii said:

Though isn't it ironic that the left is downplaying Nazism, an extreme right-wing ideology

What's really ironic are the number of right wing clowns around here who've invested lots of time casting Nazis as left-wing, something to do with the word socialist in their name I suppose.

In any case I also take issue with your suggestion the Liberals are leftwing. 

Edited September 26, 2023 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Nexii said:

Would you describe one of our vets as 'a person who fought with Canadians'? That's nearly meaningless, and could imply any number of countries that we do joint operations with. No, you'd call them a retired Canadian soldier

LOL - fair point, i concede.  

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

What's really ironic are the number of right wing clowns around here who've invested lots of time casting Nazis as left-wing, something to do with the word socialist in their name I suppose.

You need to read your history a bit bud   Nazi's were definitely left wing.

What's funny is all the papers and pundits CALLED them left wing before the war - then switched to 'right wing' after the war when they realized that it might not be good to be associated with them

Well - most of the left wing realized it was bad to be associated with them anyway, based on recent events some didn't get the memo  

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

What's really ironic are the number of right wing clowns around here who've invested lots of time casting Nazis as left-wing, something to do with the word socialist in their name I suppose.

In any case I also take issue with your suggestion the Liberals are leftwing. 

Well so much for that coffee....liberals are not left wing... sh*t they are further left than the NDP are well past being left wing...

[capitosinora]

 

Trudeau, Biden and Zelensky are competing for the clown of the year award. It's going to be a close contest this year.

?

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Well so much for that coffee....liberals are not left wing... sh*t they are further left than the NDP are well past being left wing...

And having proven that left=right eyeball then went on to prove up=down and black=white, and was killed at the next zebra crossing.

Edited September 27, 2023 by CdnFox