Army Guy Posted September 29, 2023 Report Posted September 29, 2023 Just now, TreeBeard said: Well, he wasn’t German now, was he? Do you have to be German to be a NAZI... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
WestCanMan Posted September 29, 2023 Report Posted September 29, 2023 On 9/26/2023 at 1:10 PM, Army Guy said: Yes many foreigners served in the Nazi military machine, Not all in the SS but as you said lots of them, but you seem to be painting these men like they were regular soldiers, when they are clearly not. Regular soldiers do not slaughter regular Civilians, as members of this division did while operating in Poland as stated or pointed out below... Canada was pressured by the UK to accept large numbers of these SS men, as did the UK except thousands as well ... I thought that the Waffen SS were soldiers. They even recruited foreigners specifically to join the SS to fight Russia instead of becoming regular German army. Did Ukrainians have the option of joining other German units to fight against Russia, or was the SS their only choice? Like I've said before, any decent person would have chosen to fight against Russia if their own family was hurt by Stalin's genocides. I would have done it myself. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
TreeBeard Posted September 29, 2023 Report Posted September 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Army Guy said: Do you have to be German to be a NAZI... You have to be German and a Nazi to be a German Nazi! LOL Why is simple English such a difficult concept? Quote
Army Guy Posted September 29, 2023 Report Posted September 29, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I thought that the Waffen SS were soldiers. They even recruited foreigners specifically to join the SS to fight Russia instead of becoming regular German army. Did Ukrainians have the option of joining other German units to fight against Russia, or was the SS their only choice? Like I've said before, any decent person would have chosen to fight against Russia if their own family was hurt by Stalin's genocides. I would have done it myself. No the SS is not part of the Germany military at all, but part a combat portion of the German Nazi party...Yes the SS did recruit for almost any where, to fight everyone at war with the Reich majority of SS units although involved in many military's operations fighting along side of regular German soldiers, they also look after concentration camps, killing of jews and Russian soldiers though rounding them up and killing them various ways...but also any of the unwanted, like partisans, etc.. Waffen-SS - Wikipedia All SS units have war crimes attributed to them, and their name sake was well known during the war, Ukrainians who wanted to fight could have joined the regulars German army and not been exposed to war crimes for the most part i say that becasue "some" German army units did take part in killing civilians as well. Wehrmacht foreign volunteers and conscripts - Wikipedia Edited September 29, 2023 by Army Guy 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted September 29, 2023 Report Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I thought that the Waffen SS were soldiers. They even recruited foreigners specifically to join the SS to fight Russia instead of becoming regular German army. Adolf Hitler actually despised the Wehrmacht he hated the Prussian officer class, he did not trust them at all they did try to assassinate him after all his plan was to replace the Wehrmacht with the Waffen-SS the Schutzstaffel or Protective Squadrons, would become the totalitarian state military of the NSDAP the SS started off as his personal bodygaurd then they became the state security apparatus the Waffen-SS was his new model army, an ideological military loyal only to the party kind of like how Justin Trudeau runs the Canadian military now Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 29, 2023 Report Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: Do you have to be German to be a NAZI... Adolf Hitler was not even German an Austrian actually Quote
August1991 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/28/2023 at 11:43 AM, Aristides said: Of course they wanted a regime change in Russia. ... Disagree. Thatcher, Kennedy and Reagan wanted to defeat Communism. And they did. The Russian people? Russia? No. Not at all. Quote
August1991 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/28/2023 at 2:36 PM, SpankyMcFarland said: It was a bit ridiculous that Soviet judges were present at Nuremberg given the vast canvas of atrocities, certainly war crimes, their army had just committed right across Europe. Because so few were held to account we tend to forget all that. We also have a non-zero number of Soviet war veterans in Canada. I too have wondered about this. But then I have thought about what happened in Russia in 1942 and 1943. I have asked Russian women about this. In general, German soldiers were respectful. Romanian soldiers were not. I reckon that any Russian soldier who had crossed the Oder in 1945 was an ignorant peasant, happy to be alive. ====== The British general Montgomery made an interesting remark about soldiers: in the first war, they were ignorant But in the second war, he said, the soldiers were educated. They wanted to know. Quote
August1991 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) This link, dunno. But I believe that this interview was with a Newfoundlander. He discussed Beaumont-Hamel. Edited September 30, 2023 by August1991 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 30, 2023 Report Posted September 30, 2023 My landlady and her parents were sheltering in Budapest as enemy armies closed in. When her father returned without his watch they knew the Russians had arrived. Quote
Moonbox Posted October 2, 2023 Report Posted October 2, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 2:04 AM, August1991 said: Disagree. Thatcher, Kennedy and Reagan wanted to defeat Communism. And they did. The Russian people? Russia? No. Not at all. The Russian people didn't want an end to communism? Is that why they went back to communism? ? Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Aristides Posted October 2, 2023 Report Posted October 2, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 11:04 PM, August1991 said: Disagree. Thatcher, Kennedy and Reagan wanted to defeat Communism. And they did. The Russian people? Russia? No. Not at all. Defeating Communism meant a regime change and that is what happened. 52 minutes ago, Moonbox said: The Russian people didn't want an end to communism? Is that why they went back to communism? ? They haven't gone back to communism, they have gone back to an autocracy. That is what they really missed. Quote
Moonbox Posted October 2, 2023 Report Posted October 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, Aristides said: They haven't gone back to communism, they have gone back to an autocracy. Yes, but they haven't gone back to communism, nor will they. 40 minutes ago, Aristides said: That is what they really missed. It's not what they want. It's what they tolerate. The Russian people have a long tradition of servility. With a culture of keep your mouth shut, mind your own business, don't ask questions etc, they get what they tolerate. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
August1991 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Posted October 4, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 10:20 AM, Aristides said: Defeating Communism meant a regime change and that is what happened. They haven't gone back to communism, they have gone back to an autocracy. That is what they really missed. Then let the Russian people - if they want - live under an autocrat. Soviet Russia no longer wants to invade Europe. Marxism no longer threaten the world. Reagan, Thatcher won. ===== IMHO, like in 1815 and 1946, we need a new a way of doing things. And NATO? We Canadians should leave. Quote
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