ExFlyer Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, blackbird said: The hereditary chiefs do not represent the FNs in B.C. .... Nope but they stirred up so much $hit that the project went away. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
herbie Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 Oh FFS it's long done and over and you're still quoting the utter BS that Enbridge spit out. There WAS no support from people in BC along the route other than those that stood to personally gain from construction along the way. You could drive from Princc George to Kitimat and see No Enbridge signs on almost every other property asides from ONE pro sign on private property and one billboard in Smithers that got taken down when the town council voted against the line. And it wasn't any Hereditary Chiefs it was every Band around that was opposed in the end. And fireworks went off all over in celebration when the final ruling and the tanker ban got announced. Those lying f*ckwads ran TV ads showing no islands near the Douglas Channel, held public meetings with strategically chopped off maps in my town claiming it didn't come near the lake, when it came within 100m of it on a strategic creek, and handed out 'bribe' money as community grants in every town along the way. BC Premier Christie Clark offered five conditions to get support even though that was a great political risk and Alberta wouldn't even accept that. Don't pretend you know shit about how it went down, I live here and the anti-Enbridge handouts were printed in MY printshop, by a single local activist with her own credit card I must add. Pretend and convince yourselves that Trudeau stopped it all you want, WE DID. Every citizen along the route and who cares about the BC Coast. It didn't happen and it's never going to happen. So STFU and stop the snivelling over spilled milk. As I pointed out, gripe about the USA not buying enough, I'm sorry AB is f*cked by geography but the ROC is in no way obligated to assume all the risks with no reward. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Nope but they stirred up so much $hit that the project went away. You are mixed up. I was talking about the Northern Gateway Pipeline project which Trudeau cancelled eight years ago. The hereditary radical red power chiefs were trying to stop the Coastal Gaslink pipeline project which was half built a couple years ago. Environmental radicals joined them to try to stop the project in northwest B.C. Those were two different projects. The Coastal Gaslink project received approval from the B.C. government a long time ago and is partly built now. That is a gas pipeline, not oil. It will take natural gas from northeast B.C. and Alberta to Kitimat where it will be shipped. the FN bands along the route all support the pipeline. Hereditary chiefs don't support it because they are out of touch with most FNs and band councils and don't represent them. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, blackbird said: You are mixed up. .....Hereditary chiefs don't support it because they are out of touch with most FNs and band councils and don't represent them. Listen biblethumper. You do not have to agree with anything I say. I do not say it to gain your approval or concurrence. I suggest you block me. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted October 13, 2023 Report Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: Vancouver Island is getting very busy these days. High fuel and grocery prices, a ferry system that you can't count on any more, and a very large portion of the bush behind gates now. If you're elderly and don't mind the rain running down the crack of your ass for 4-6 months a year . . . it might be the place for you. Ya don't have to shovel rain 2 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
BeaverFever Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 16 hours ago, blackbird said: You are mixed up. I was talking about the Northern Gateway Pipeline project which Trudeau cancelled eight years ago. The hereditary radical red power chiefs were trying to stop the Coastal Gaslink pipeline project which was half built a couple years ago. Environmental radicals joined them to try to stop the project in northwest B.C. Those were two different projects. The Coastal Gaslink project received approval from the B.C. government a long time ago and is partly built now. That is a gas pipeline, not oil. It will take natural gas from northeast B.C. and Alberta to Kitimat where it will be shipped. the FN bands along the route all support the pipeline. Hereditary chiefs don't support it because they are out of touch with most FNs and band councils and don't represent them. In hindsight, preventing those foreign oil companies from building a feed of Canadian oil to China was good thing. Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Back on topic, here’s a PP greatest hit from 2009 As a lifelong Conservative Party hack since his school days, PP “man of the people” has never held a real job and has been earning a 6-figure taxpayer funded salary from the age of 25 and full taxpayer funded pension since age 31. It has never stopped him from condescending to Canadians about how they need to learn the value of hard work or opposing a shortening of the qualifying period for EI benefits during the financial meltdown recession however. Edited October 14, 2023 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 19 hours ago, herbie said: Oh FFS it's long done and over and you're still quoting the utter BS that Enbridge spit out. There WAS no support from people in BC along the route other than those that stood to personally gain from construction along the way. You could drive from Princc George to Kitimat and see No Enbridge signs on almost every other property asides from ONE pro sign on private property and one billboard in Smithers that got taken down when the town council voted against the line. And it wasn't any Hereditary Chiefs it was every Band around that was opposed in the end. And fireworks went off all over in celebration when the final ruling and the tanker ban got announced. Those lying f*ckwads ran TV ads showing no islands near the Douglas Channel, held public meetings with strategically chopped off maps in my town claiming it didn't come near the lake, when it came within 100m of it on a strategic creek, and handed out 'bribe' money as community grants in every town along the way. BC Premier Christie Clark offered five conditions to get support even though that was a great political risk and Alberta wouldn't even accept that. Don't pretend you know shit about how it went down, I live here and the anti-Enbridge handouts were printed in MY printshop, by a single local activist with her own credit card I must add. Pretend and convince yourselves that Trudeau stopped it all you want, WE DID. Every citizen along the route and who cares about the BC Coast. It didn't happen and it's never going to happen. So STFU and stop the snivelling over spilled milk. As I pointed out, gripe about the USA not buying enough, I'm sorry AB is f*cked by geography but the ROC is in no way obligated to assume all the risks with no reward. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
betsy Posted October 14, 2023 Author Report Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Back on topic, here’s a PP greatest hit from 2009 As a lifelong Conservative Party hack since his school days, PP “man of the people” has never held a real job and has been earning a 6-figure taxpayer funded salary from the age of 25 and full taxpayer funded pension since age 31. It has never stopped him from condescending to Canadians about how they need to learn the value of hard work or opposing a shortening of the qualifying period for EI benefits during the financial meltdown recession however. You think that's not work? As an older teenager, Poilievre had a job at Telus doing corporate collections by calling businesses.[14] He also later worked briefly as a journalist for Alberta Report, a conservative weekly magazine.[15] At the University of Calgary, Poilievre studied international relations. In 2003, Poilievre founded a company called 3D Contact Inc. with his partner Jonathan Denis,[27] who became an Alberta Cabinet minister years later. Their company focused on providing political communications, polling and research services.[28] After founding the company, Poilievre ran for MP as part of the new Conservative Party of Canada, which had just merged from the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservatives.[29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Poilievre So - that's why he's good at raising funds! he's got the knack for it. ? Are you envious? Edited October 14, 2023 by betsy 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 4 hours ago, BeaverFever said: In hindsight, preventing those foreign oil companies from building a feed of Canadian oil to China was good thing. It really wasn't. What have we got as a chip to bargain with china now? The best power you can have over someone is to be the supplier of something they really need. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
blackbird Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, BeaverFever said: In hindsight, preventing those foreign oil companies from building a feed of Canadian oil to China was good thing. Why do you not understand our energy industry and Canada's resource industry depends on exporting oil, gas and other natural resources to other countries. That is what provide Canada's prosperity. The fact that the resource industries are multi-national makes no difference because they still pay royalties to the provinces and pay high-paying wages to Canadian workers. That is the way it always has been. Canada does not have the resources to built resource companies by itself and depends highly on foreign investment in the form of multinational corporations. That is what makes Canada. This is where the NDP and other leftists have no clue about how our country works. We are a western free enterprise country built on Capitalism and foreign investment. That is what gives us our prosperity. Without that we would be a poverty-stricken banana republic. That is why the B.C. NDP's opposition to expanding the Trans Mountain pipeline was ridiculous and harmful to Canada. It is also another reason why B.C. has the highest gas prices at the pump in north America. We don't export just to China. We export to many countries, wherever we can sell our natural resources. Trudeau refusing to build pipelines and export to the other half of the world has greatly harmed Canada. Edited October 14, 2023 by blackbird Quote
herbie Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 On 10/13/2023 at 11:08 AM, CdnFox said: Ya don't have to shovel rain Imagine how desperate one must be to point out negative things about Vancouver Island.... imagine the horror of living in Fanny Bay, Duncan, Courtney/Comox. Parksville or Tofino....so much inconvenience to get back to Cement City (Big Smoke) Quote
herbie Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, blackbird said: That is why the B.C. NDP's opposition to expanding the Trans Mountain pipeline was ridiculous and harmful to Canada. You must be thrilled that it was JUSTIN TRUDEAU that saved it from the evil NDP. And that Washington State refineries are the main beneficiary. How if there's a break and a spill WE clean it up for them and maybe recover the costs that they'll just snap a finger an up the price of gas to recover. oh the greatness of our free enterprise capitalist system... totally faultless forever without blame, beholden to all. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, herbie said: Imagine how desperate one must be to point out negative things about Vancouver Island.... imagine the horror of living in Fanny Bay, Duncan, Courtney/Comox. Parksville or Tofino....so much inconvenience to get back to Cement City (Big Smoke) Lived there, been there, done than and am glad I got out and off. To each their own.. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
herbie Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 Tried like hell to post there... you needed so much seniority you'd have had to reach retirement a decade before... everyone that won a post got in and retired the minute that were allowed to. Same thing with any jobs in the Okanagan. Got some of the things we were looking for here... but it's way f*cking colder! Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, betsy said: You think that's not work? Not work the average Canadian would recognize. Keep in mind politicians also have an entourage of staffers and assistants and volunteers to do all the REAL work of their office, all PP has had to do is schmooze and perform for the cameras 8 hours ago, betsy said: As an older teenager, Poilievre had a job at Telus doing corporate collections by calling businesses.[14] He also later worked briefly as a journalist for Alberta Report, a conservative weekly magazine.[15] At the University of Calgary, Poilievre studied international relations. Pffft ooh he had a min wage job in a call centre as a teenager, and “briefly” wrote a few articles for some conservative newsletter …. not real jobs Then as a conservative party member he briefly had a company that got consulting contracts from his Conservative Party buddies, typical “swamp” deal you find in most political parties where they award party funds to each other, your donations hard at work! And he may or may not have actually done any real work considering he left it after a year to be a politician. I’m just amused that the party of “Justin Trudeau was a drama teacher” and “respect for the taxpayers” nominates a leader of their own who doesn’t even have that much on his resume and has been suckling a 6 figure salary from the taxpayer teat since he finished school. Edited October 14, 2023 by BeaverFever Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 5 hours ago, blackbird said: Why do you not understand our energy industry and Canada's resource industry depends on exporting oil, gas and other natural resources to other countries. That is what provide Canada's prosperity. The fact that the resource industries are multi-national makes no difference because they still pay royalties to the provinces and pay high-paying wages to Canadian workers. That is the way it always has been. Canada does not have the resources to built resource companies by itself and depends highly on foreign investment in the form of multinational corporations. That is what makes Canada. Typical small-time colonial mindset. Foreign ownership and control of our resources and economy - and by extension our politicians - does make a difference. “We don’t want to be control of our own country, we just want a master who will pay us a good hourly wage!” Lots of countries with populations and/or smaller GDP than Canada control their own natural resources- eg Australia, the Scandinavian countries, Switzerland. Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) On 10/14/2023 at 10:22 AM, CdnFox said: It really wasn't. What have we got as a chip to bargain with china now? The best power you can have over someone is to be the supplier of something they really need. Pipsqueaks like Canada will never have chips to bargain with the likes of China especially since 98% of the oil extracted from Canada is done by foreign- owned oil companies who don’t give a rats ass about Canada or Canadians. If anything investing all that money to supply China would make us dependent upon them and give China even more leverage over us. Edited October 15, 2023 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
Legato Posted October 14, 2023 Report Posted October 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Not work the average Canadian would recognize. Keep in mind politicians also have an entourage of staffers and assistants and volunteers to do all the REAL work of their office, all PP has had to do is schmooze and perform for the cameras Pffft ooh he had a min wage job in a call centre as a teenager, and “briefly” wrote a few articles for some conservative newsletter …. not real jobs Then as a conservative party member he briefly had a company that got consulting contracts from his Conservative Party buddies, typical “swamp” deal you find in most political parties where they award party funds to each other, your donations hard at work! And he may or may not have actually done any real work considering he left it after a year to be a politician. I’m just amused that the party of “Justin Trudeau was a drama teacher” and “respect for the taxpayers” nominates a leader of their own who doesn’t even have that much on his resume and has been suckling a 6 figure salary from the taxpayer teat since he finished school. What would make you happy. Poilievre blacking his face, donning a turban and snowboarding down a slope to the tune of 'Sock It Baby'. Poilievre has more character in his finger nail than Trudeau has in himself and his three alter ego's. Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Legato said: What would make you happy. Poilievre blacking his face, donning a turban and snowboarding down a slope to the tune of 'Sock It Baby'. Poilievre has more character in his finger nail than Trudeau has in himself and his three alter ego's. Yeah actually that would make me happy because PPs character has that “spiteful virgin” vibe, as if he never kissed a girl until age 25 and the cool kids never invited him to their parties, so he vowed to one day make them all pay. Which I’m guessing probably isn’t too far from the truth. He probably desperately wishes there was a video of him Snowboarding to “sock it baby” considering he normally comes off as the kind of guy who regularly falls off a bicycle, and considering he’s now hiding the fact that he wears glasses and pretending he’s this cool blue collar working class type Edited October 15, 2023 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: He probably desperately wishes there was a video of him Snowboarding to “sock it baby” considering he normally comes off as the kind of guy who regularly falls off a bicycle, and that he’s now hiding the fact that he wears glasses and trying to pretend he’s this cool blue collar working class type I get more of a hall monitor vibe. Also the guy who acted like the smartest kid, with a B- average. He was on Reach for the Top but mistook the hardened chewing gum stuck under the table for the buzzer button and so didn't answer any questions. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Pipsqueaks like Canada will never have chips to bargain with the likes of China Sure they do. Harper did. You don't have to be big to have pull. China is painfully aware it doesn't have the resources it needs and Canada may be small poplation wise but it's the second largest country in the world geographically and chocked full of resources. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Legato Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Yeah actually that would make me happy because PPs character has that “spiteful virgin” vibe, as if he never kissed a girl until age 25 and since the cool kids never invited him to their parties, he vowed that one day he’d make them all pay. Which I’m guessing probably isn’t too far from the truth. You speaking from experience? 2 hours ago, BeaverFever said: He probably desperately wishes there was a video of him Snowboarding to “sock it baby” considering he normally comes off as the kind of guy who regularly falls off a bicycle, and that he’s now hiding the fact that he wears glasses and trying to pretend he’s this cool blue collar working class type Why are you describing Joe Biden? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 15, 2023 Report Posted October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Legato said: You speaking from experience? Ahhh THAT'S why beaver is so anti PP - jealousy Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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