McCarthy Orders Impeachment Inquiry

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Now it’s the DNC that controls the FBI?

You believe Donald Trump, who hires only the best, appointed a man to lead the FBI who would take orders from the Democratic National Committee?  You crazy. 

If you don't know the Dems control the FBI then you don't have enough knowledge of the topic to chime in on it. 

Edited September 13, 2023 by WestCanMan

[Aristides]

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you don't know the Dems control the FBI then you don't have enough knowledge of the topic to chime in on it. 

Four of the last five and the last two FBI directors were appointed by Republican presidents.

[Rebound]

55 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you don't know the Dems control the FBI then you don't have enough knowledge of the topic to chime in on it. 

I know the Democrats definitely do not control the FBI

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

You are ignoring plain fact. 

 

No, i'm afraid it is you who are ignoring plain fact.

The dems paid to have the steel dossier created. Period. Well established fact.

That was the basis for the FBI investigation.  Fact.  Period.

End of story. There is nothing you can say that makes that right, and nothing you can say that changes the fact that the dems were the ones who thew the convention of 'you don't go after your political opponents like that' out the window.

The dems would not let up for 3 years.  Fact.  Deocratic friendly prosecutors have said they will continue to investigate trump until they find something they can stick him with... fact.  They've threatened to investigate his family. Fact.

 

The dems started this.  They continued it.  They have thrown convention out the window and used prosecution and investigation as a tool to suppress their opponents out the window. That was them.

So - they have zero right to whine now.  They are reaping what they sowed, and i suspect this is just starting. This is what the dems wanted. It was their choice.

15 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I know the Democrats definitely do not control the FBI

they actually do exert a lot of influence there.  Sorry if you didn't know that

[Aristides]

The current director was appointed by Trump.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The current director was appointed by Trump.

Sorry - is that the same fbi where members were texting about how they'll do whatever it takes to get rid of trump and who falsified documents illegally to try to investigate trump?

I'd say that one director still leaves a lot of hierarchy to be anti trump.  

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Let's stop playing pretend, shall we? 

The DNC can absolutely dispatch FBI agents, and Joe Biden is the head of the snake.

You need to stop playing pretend and put up (evidence) or shut up.

You have NONE that the DNC has any power over the FBI.

If anyone ever forced the Director of the FBI to violate policy, it was the GOP House which got Comey to publicize an FBI investigation independent of Hillary being charged. That was STRICTLY AGAINST DoJ POLICY.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sure - theres's some things that it's an unwritten rule that you just don't do,

But the dems have thrown most of those out the window - this was the predicted response. Since the steel dossier the dems have weaponized legal action as a political tool - that gate is open now.  Welcome to the new normal.

It might not turn out to be a bad thing. If everyone knows that any lawsuit possible will come there way they'll have to be more careful about pocketing money.

Charging CRIMES is NOT "weaponized legal action as a political tool." Duh.

Trump clearly committed CRIMES and ADMITTED TO THEM by foolishly trying to defend himself in public.

Claiming the classified documents were HIS was an outright admission of HIS CRIMES.

As was the election coercion in GA caught ON TAPE. Slam dunk evidence BOTH.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Newsflash - the 'probable cause' was a fake dossier given to them by the democrats.   And they got in trouble for that.

Further newsflash - they went so far as to break the law to pursue that investigation.

Final newsflash  - you're an !diot.

Then there's the huge number of other..  shall we say 'trumped up' charges? LOL

Sorry - the dems opened that door.  THere's no arguing it, that's not an opinion, that's just cold hard fact.  And they've pushed that for years.

So of course there was going to be payback. Experts and commentators alike have been saying that for quite some time, and moreso recently.

It's about 7 years too late for the dems to whine about it now.  ANd frankly - this is the tip of the iceberg.

It's easy for you to repeat ^these LIES when you feel like you're under NO OBLIGATION to do ACTUAL RESEARCH and POST EVIDENCE. Until you do, ^these are ALL JUST YOUR OPINIONS or LIES.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

"very professional impeachment of Trump" that amounted to bubkus.

Refusal to convict by a Republican Senate does NOT prove Bupkis.

All it proves is their voters would not hold them accountable for failing to enforce the law.

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Who cares what RINOs want? Most of them are toast too.

Is that the new definition of RINO meaning not supporting Trump? LMAO

Or the classical definition meaning actual conservative?

[August1991]

19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

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The dems paid to have the steel dossier created. Period. Well established fact.

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That's Steele -not steel. Or did you mean steal?

As a Canadian, I look forward to your 2024 US political elections.  

Edited September 13, 2023 by August1991

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I don't think it matters anymore. You cultists did and are doing your best to "get Trump" and all it does is strengthen his support. On the other hand, Joe Biden is now a public disgrace. Ruined.

So do what you will...the objective has already been achieved. 

"Strengthening support" among the MAGA CULT is not enough to get elected.

Support among independents is dying.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Who cares? You failed. Twice.

Yes we know that you care NOT about actual evidence against Trump; you've cross over the line to emotional pursuit of REVENGE. god knows why you're so adamant about the government of a nation foreign to you. 

Do you believe Biden losing has some kind of impact on Trudeau? LMAO

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

If you don't know the Dems control the FBI then you don't have enough knowledge of the topic to chime in on it. 

If you have NO EVIDENCE ^this is just your fantastical OPINION.

[CdnFox]

27 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Charging CRIMES is NOT "weaponized legal action as a political tool." Duh.

Creating a fake dossier and using it to justify an fbi investigation is.  A lot of the other ones are too,  Sorry,

Remember - Your OpIniOn is WORTHLESSS wIThouT FAAAACTS!  

And you're drooling again.

26 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's easy for you to repeat ^these LIES when you feel like you're under NO OBLIGATION to do ACTUAL RESEARCH and POST EVIDENCE. Until you do, ^these are ALL JUST YOUR OPINIONS or LIES.

It's even easier to repeat these facts when they're simply facts

Sorry that the truth upsets you so much.  I know that to you lefties the truth is like throwing holy water on a vampire. 

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, August1991 said:

That's Steele -not steel. Or did you mean steal?

Or Stele ?  

But what i REALLY meant is my spellchecker disagrees with you and says you suck

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As a Canadian, I look forward to your 2024 US political elections.  

As a Canadian i hope like hell that means jaggers is going to backstab justin and we're going to the polls early  

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

"Strengthening support" among the MAGA CULT is not enough to get elected.

Support among independents is dying.

Trump is polling better than biden right now, independents included.

AND when you look at voter distribution he's more efficient too. If the election were held to day and the polls proved accurate trump would be the new/old president

Man that's gotta tick you off.

[robosmith]

51 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, i'm afraid it is you who are ignoring plain fact.

The dems paid to have the steel dossier created. Period. Well established fact.

That was the basis for the FBI investigation.  Fact.  Period.

End of story. There is nothing you can say that makes that right, and nothing you can say that changes the fact that the dems were the ones who thew the convention of 'you don't go after your political opponents like that' out the window.

The dems would not let up for 3 years.  Fact.  Deocratic friendly prosecutors have said they will continue to investigate trump until they find something they can stick him with... fact.  They've threatened to investigate his family. Fact.

 

The dems started this.  They continued it.  They have thrown convention out the window and used prosecution and investigation as a tool to suppress their opponents out the window. That was them.

So - they have zero right to whine now.  They are reaping what they sowed, and i suspect this is just starting. This is what the dems wanted. It was their choice.

they actually do exert a lot of influence there.  Sorry if you didn't know that

Sorry you don't know what you're talking about NOR how to post actual evidence which MIGHT prove your SPECULATION.

Nor do you understand that every time you post outlandish speculation without EVIDENCE, you only further DESTROY your CREDIBILITY (as if you have any left).

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Or Stele ?  

But what i REALLY meant is my spellchecker disagrees with you and says you suck

As a Canadian i hope like hell that means jaggers is going to backstab justin and we're going to the polls early  

Trump is polling better than biden right now, independents included.

AND when you look at voter distribution he's more efficient too. If the election were held to day and the polls proved accurate trump would be the new/old president

Man that's gotta tick you off.

Nope, cause your OPINIONS have NO CREDIBILITY.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Sorry you don't know what you're talking about NOR how to post actual evidence which MIGHT prove your SPECULATION.
 

That's what a loser who knows i'm right and can't refute me would say  

My credibility is golden kiddo Yours went out the window about the 4th time i had to explain how us law works for you  

Soowwweee - you got no facts, no argument, no credibility and no brain

 

Trump is polling better than biden - and you're so bitter about it that you're crying about it rather than accepting it. Sigh - this is why nobody respects the left these days,

 

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Refusal to convict by a Republican Senate does NOT prove Bupkis.

All it proves is their voters would not hold them accountable for failing to enforce the law.

Is that the new definition of RINO meaning not supporting Trump? LMAO

Or the classical definition meaning actual conservative?

I've been browsing this thread and have concluded that you Libbies are desperate to defend the two tier justice system. Ok...the republican candidate will be a MAGA republican. That means whoever it is, will take office, clean house and then proceed to turn justice on you Libbies and your insanity. 

And the uni-party Republicans will be dealt with decisively. 

BTW...I understand Biden just gave Iran 6 billion. Lol...he's so toast.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Yes we know that you care NOT about actual evidence against Trump; you've cross over the line to emotional pursuit of REVENGE. god knows why you're so adamant about the government of a nation foreign to you. 

Do you believe Biden losing has some kind of impact on Trudeau? LMAO

If you have NO EVIDENCE ^this is just your fantastical OPINION.

How many whistle blowers now? And they keep coming. The evidence is monumental. 60% of the voting public now believe Biden is guilty. McCarthy just started an impeachment inquiry. 

Biden is already toast. But you stand by your man. It's fun to watch.

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, Aristides said:

Four of the last five and the last two FBI directors were appointed by Republican presidents.

How many times has the FBI lied to influence an election in favour of the GOP? Zero.

The FBI lied about Russian collusion thousands of times. They lied about Hunter's laptop, and even when the NYPost was banned from Twitter they said nothing. That's a lot of actual lying, and all of it was to help the dems.

Honestly if the police just lied once that should be a big deal, but we don't even keep track anymore because it's normal for the FBI to lie now. We can only keep track of their crimes (the ones that we know about) and their entrapment schemes.

If you feel like the FBI is a legitimate police force you're a fool. There's a mountain of evidence to the contrary and ideally there shouldn't be any, or at least not any incontrovertible evidence.

[Aristides]

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

How many times has the FBI lied to influence an election in favour of the GOP? Zero.

The FBI lied about Russian collusion thousands of times. They lied about Hunter's laptop, and even when the NYPost was banned from Twitter they said nothing. That's a lot of actual lying, and all of it was to help the dems.

Honestly if the police just lied once that should be a big deal, but we don't even keep track anymore because it's normal for the FBI to lie now. We can only keep track of their crimes (the ones that we know about) and their entrapment schemes.

If you feel like the FBI is a legitimate police force you're a fool. There's a mountain of evidence to the contrary and ideally there shouldn't be any, or at least not any incontrovertible evidence.

Comey basically sealed the election for Trump when he reopened Hillary's emails again days before the election. A probe that came to nothing. 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Aristides

[Deluge]

21 hours ago, Rebound said:

For the first time in US history, the House of Representatives will begin an impeachment inquiry without a vote of the House of Representatives.  
 

Should President Biden order all government officials to ignore all congressional subpoenas, as President Trump did? 

F*ck no.

"President" Biden should confess to his election crimes and turn the Oval Office back over to President Trump. 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Deluge

[WestCanMan]

37 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Comey basically sealed the election for Trump when he reopened Hillary's emails again days before the election. A probe that came to nothing. 

1) Comey never 'lied' about anything to do with Hillary, at least not in favour of Trump.

The FBI also gave immunity to her friends in exchange for nothing, let her get away with destroying subpoenaed evidence, and let her just say "I can't remember because I bumped my head a couple days ago" to literally every question that she was asked under oath. That's the second time in her life that she got temporary amnesia, and on both occasions she was really only affected on the day of her FBI interrogation. Who else could get away with that? It's bizarre. Her interrogations were never rescheduled. 

2) That had absolutely nothing to do with it. Hillary lost because she ran her mouth.

Voter apathy completely disappeared from the right side of the aisle when she said "basket of deplorables".

She made voting for Trump go from being "a sign that you might be a vile racist - according to CNN" to being an act of defiance. Almost anyone chooses "act of defiance" on every occasion possible. It's in our DNA.

Edited September 13, 2023 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Comey basically sealed the election for Trump when he reopened Hillary's emails again days before the election. A probe that came to nothing. 

The republicans didn't send Wiener's notebook to the FBI and claim it was real when they'd faked it. The FBI tried to avoid the hell out of bringing it forward but Comey was worried if he went THAT far then he might be accused of a crime himself.

THey definitely helped suppress hunter biden's notebook info in the next election didn't they   (what is it with dems and notebooks).

SO - to compare - the dems created a fake dossier full of fake information and handed it to the fbi - who then used it as an excuse without doing any credibility checks on it as normal to launch an investigation on trump which turned up no wrong doing at all. 

In contrast-  Weiner's laptop was seized as part of a child port investigation, and the FBI discovered the emails on it on their own and was compelled to investigate. They knew the laptop they had was anthony wieners and could quickly verify that the emails very likely were from clinton, and were very likely real.

Soooo yeah. Pretty big difference  

[Hodad]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

How many whistle blowers now? And they keep coming. The evidence is monumental. 60% of the voting public now believe Biden is guilty. McCarthy just started an impeachment inquiry. 

Biden is already toast. But you stand by your man. It's fun to watch.

Living in the alt-right echo chamber has left you tragically misinformed. 

I guarantee that you can't post a poll that shows 60% of people think Biden has done anything illegal to be guilty of.

And your assertions that he's "toast" are just childish. If unsupported accusations were as effective on Democrats and independents as they are on Republicans, then you might be right. But thankfully the bulk of voters here are still sane and rational and would actually require some evidence. 

 

Meanwhile, you "stand by your man" after the literally tried to end American democracy. Of course, why would a Canadian Trump fanboy care a whit about American democracy and the rights of the voting public?