McCarthy Orders Impeachment Inquiry

[Hodad]

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

The FBI also gave immunity to her friends in exchange for nothing, let her get away with destroying subpoenaed evidence, and let her just say "I can't remember because I bumped my head a couple days ago" to literally every question that she was asked under oath. 

"Literally," anyone with the internet can see that you are lying. The summary of findings and her deposition are publicly available. 

Clinton wasn't charged because everyone in government was using unclassified email servers for government business. Including the Trump clan that made such a disingenuous fuss about Hillary. 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Hodad

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Living in the alt-right echo chamber has left you tragically misinformed. 

I guarantee that you can't post a poll that shows 60% of people think Biden has done anything illegal to be guilty of.

And your assertions that he's "toast" are just childish. If unsupported accusations were as effective on Democrats and independents as they are on Republicans, then you might be right. But thankfully the bulk of voters here are still sane and rational and would actually require some evidence. 

 

Meanwhile, you "stand by your man" after the literally tried to end American democracy. Of course, why would a Canadian Trump fanboy care a whit about American democracy and the rights of the voting public?

We can start with this...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/most-americans-think-joe-biden-was-involved-in-hunters-business-dealings

And then there's this...

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/large-majority-of-americans-think-biden-was-involved-in-hunters-business-dealings-cnn-poll-finds/

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

We can start with this...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/most-americans-think-joe-biden-was-involved-in-hunters-business-dealings

And then there's this...

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/large-majority-of-americans-think-biden-was-involved-in-hunters-business-dealings-cnn-poll-finds/

The Washington Examiner is pure tabloid garbage-- exactly the echo chamber I accused you of occupying. Of course, they didn't offer numbers. They know you guys don't need or heed them.

Freebeacon is the same type of garbage, but they at least included poll numbers. And what do the numbers say?

"Forty-two percent said they believed his actions were illegal."

I rest my case.

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I've been browsing this thread and have concluded that you Libbies are desperate to defend the two tier justice system.

Your conclusion is wrong. It is the Republicans (and you) who are expecting special passes for Trump's CRIMES.

All those MAGA CULT MEMBERS HE DIRECTED were convicted and now it's the CULT LEADER'S turn.

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ok...the republican candidate will be a MAGA republican. That means whoever it is, will take office, clean house and then proceed to turn justice on you Libbies and your insanity. 

Sorry but "insanity" is NOT a CRIME. And NONE OF US are INSANE like the MAGA CULT LEADER who tried to overturn the election. He's not charged with "insanity" though, he's charged with coercion of election officials and conspiracy to disrupt an official government proceeding.

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And the uni-party Republicans will be dealt with decisively. 

Who's that? Mike Pence? LMAO

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

BTW...I understand Biden just gave Iran 6 billion. Lol...he's so toast.

You heard wrong. It was South Korea's money, that was owed to Iran which was UNFROZEN, due to the lifting of sanctions. 

Only thing Biden gave was the OK to lift the sanctions along with other Western leaders. Duh

You sure Trudeau wasn't involved in that? LMAO

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

How many whistle blowers now? And they keep coming. The evidence is monumental. 60% of the voting public now believe Biden is guilty. McCarthy just started an impeachment inquiry. 

Biden is already toast. But you stand by your man. It's fun to watch.

Only "whistle blowers" I've heard are the two IRS inspectors who are butthurt cause prosecutors didn't have enough evidence to prosecute.

All you've got is another appeal to popularity FALLACY. Did FOS LIES tell you about that poll? LMAO

[robosmith]

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

How many times has the FBI lied to influence an election in favour of the GOP? Zero.

The FBI played a huge roll in damaging Hillary's 2016 election prospects when Comey violated DoJ policy by commenting on an investigation in which there were NO CHARGES filed.

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The FBI lied about Russian collusion thousands of times. They lied about Hunter's laptop, and even when the NYPost was banned from Twitter they said nothing. That's a lot of actual lying, and all of it was to help the dems.

Honestly if the police just lied once that should be a big deal, but we don't even keep track anymore because it's normal for the FBI to lie now. We can only keep track of their crimes (the ones that we know about) and their entrapment schemes.

If you feel like the FBI is a legitimate police force you're a fool. There's a mountain of evidence to the contrary and ideally there shouldn't be any, or at least not any incontrovertible evidence.

You're the fool believes all ^these lies heard on FOS LIES.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

I guarantee that you can't post a poll that shows 60% of people think Biden has done anything illegal to be guilty of.

Majority Of Americans Believe Unproven Allegations About Biden Family Corruption

A new poll suggest most Americans think Joe Biden got involved in his son’s business deals with Ukrainian and Chinese nationals.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/poll-hunter-biden-joe-biden-corrupt_n_64fa0731e4b08305f88fbd47

 

Huff post.  Poll done by CNN

61 percent.  Bazinga.  

Biden is tanking fast.  Stick your head in the sand as much as you like, it won't change the truth.

Edited September 14, 2023 by CdnFox

[Rebound]

22 hours ago, Nationalist said:

How many whistle blowers now? And they keep coming. The evidence is monumental. 60% of the voting public now believe Biden is guilty. McCarthy just started an impeachment inquiry. 

Biden is already toast. But you stand by your man. It's fun to watch.

Biden will not be impeached because there is no evidence of wrongdoing.  
 

And I don’t think this inquiry will be able to issue any subpoenas. That’s because after Trump’s first impeachment, the Trump Justice Department issued a rule that Presidential impeachment inquiries require a majority vote in the House of Representatives. So Trump has shot himself in the foot.  

[Nationalist]

48 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Biden will not be impeached because there is no evidence of wrongdoing.  
 

And I don’t think this inquiry will be able to issue any subpoenas. That’s because after Trump’s first impeachment, the Trump Justice Department issued a rule that Presidential impeachment inquiries require a majority vote in the House of Representatives. So Trump has shot himself in the foot.  

What you refuse to admit is that Joe Biden is already toast. Regardless of how this investigation goes now, the public overwhelmingly think he's a liar and a cheat.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Only "whistle blowers" I've heard are the two IRS inspectors who are butthurt cause prosecutors didn't have enough evidence to prosecute.

All you've got is another appeal to popularity FALLACY. Did FOS LIES tell you about that poll? LMAO

I'll just address your multi-post tirade with this.

I can smell your desperation.

[Rebound]

10 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

What you refuse to admit is that Joe Biden is already toast. Regardless of how this investigation goes now, the public overwhelmingly think he's a liar and a cheat.

I welcome this impeachment farce because the American public will see that the whole thing’s a bunch of malarkey. 
 

So pipe down and pick up all those beer cans from the floor of your trailer, grandad. 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Rebound

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Biden will not be impeached because there is no evidence of wrongdoing.  
 

And I don’t think this inquiry will be able to issue any subpoenas. That’s because after Trump’s first impeachment, the Trump Justice Department issued a rule that Presidential impeachment inquiries require a majority vote in the House of Representatives. So Trump has shot himself in the foot.  

As I've said...it doesn't matter anymore. The public now believes he's crooked.

Mission accomplished. 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I welcome this impeachment farce because the American public will see that the whole thing’s a bunch of malarkey. 
 

So pipe down and pick up all those beer cans from the floor of your trailer, grandad. 

Up yours. He's toast and all but you death-cultists know it.

[CdnFox]

I doubt the perception that biden is crooked will do him in, certainly not on it's own.  Americans seem historically to forgive a little corruption provided results are being delivered.

I think that's where he's going to trip up.  Results are NOT being delivered. Too many things are going poorly, and he has the appearance of being too old for the job.

If trump gives people reason to believe that he will deliver better then people will likely move to him or just not vote at all, which is almost as good for him.

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, Hodad said:

I guarantee that you can't post a poll that shows 60% of people think Biden has done anything illegal to be guilty of.

So are we to assume that you are one of the >40% of the population that doesn't think Biden did anything illegal?

Can you explain why Joe Biden lied so vehemently about his knowledge of his son's overseas businesses? It's clear that Joe felt like it was absolutely imperative that his intimate involvement with Burisma was kept secret. Why shouldn't he be out in the open with it if it was legitimate? I'd never lie about my morning coffee routine... "I NEVER HAVE A SECOND CUP OF COFFEE!!! EVER!!!!!" Wouldn't that be weird if I did? 

Was Yanukovich a good guy Hodad? Was Zlochevsky - aka: the Burisma CEO who hired dishonourably discharged Hunter for $83k/mo - a good guy? The Biden family is heavily indebted to them for all the moolah they gave Hunter, and it's important to know who's giving the president's family big, fat gobs of money.

Originally the leftards' slam against Shokin was that "he wasn't doing anything", but he actually won court orders to freeze Zlochevsky's assets just a month before Joe Biden unilaterally turfed him. Joe said that he "chose a solid guy" to replace Shokin (I thought that would be a job for the Ukrainians themselves, but apparently Joe ran that country like a dictator briefly), but Joe's 'solid guy' made Zlochevsky a free man just a year later. 

Does it seem like Shokin was fired for doing nothing, or fired for doing a very specific something that helped out the guy who hired his son for $83k/mo?

Most Americans won't accept the fact that Joe got his son an $83k/mo job and then fired Ukrainians within their own country, working for their own government, just to protect his son's lucrative enterprises with the slimiest crooks in Europe. 

Yeah, I think that more than 60% feel like Joe went way too far. They feel like he got his son that incredibly lucrative job, and they feel like he used his power to fire and hire people just to protect that job. And they know he lied about it all. 

How do you honestly feel about it? 

[Hodad]

54 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So are we to assume that you are one of the >40% of the population that doesn't think Biden did anything illegal?

Can you explain why Joe Biden lied so vehemently about his knowledge of his son's overseas businesses? It's clear that Joe felt like it was absolutely imperative that his intimate involvement with Burisma was kept secret. Why shouldn't he be out in the open with it if it was legitimate? I'd never lie about my morning coffee routine... "I NEVER HAVE A SECOND CUP OF COFFEE!!! EVER!!!!!" Wouldn't that be weird if I did? 

Was Yanukovich a good guy Hodad? Was Zlochevsky - aka: the Burisma CEO who hired dishonourably discharged Hunter for $83k/mo - a good guy? The Biden family is heavily indebted to them for all the moolah they gave Hunter, and it's important to know who's giving the president's family big, fat gobs of money.

Originally the leftards' slam against Shokin was that "he wasn't doing anything", but he actually won court orders to freeze Zlochevsky's assets just a month before Joe Biden unilaterally turfed him. Joe said that he "chose a solid guy" to replace Shokin (I thought that would be a job for the Ukrainians themselves, but apparently Joe ran that country like a dictator briefly), but Joe's 'solid guy' made Zlochevsky a free man just a year later. 

Does it seem like Shokin was fired for doing nothing, or fired for doing a very specific something that helped out the guy who hired his son for $83k/mo?

Most Americans won't accept the fact that Joe got his son an $83k/mo job and then fired Ukrainians within their own country, working for their own government, just to protect his son's lucrative enterprises with the slimiest crooks in Europe. 

Yeah, I think that more than 60% feel like Joe went way too far. They feel like he got his son that incredibly lucrative job, and they feel like he used his power to fire and hire people just to protect that job. And they know he lied about it all. 

How do you honestly feel about it? 

A. 58% of the population doesn't believe Biden did anything illegal

B. There is zero evidence that Biden did anything illegal

C. There is no evidence that Joe Biden lied about being involved with Hunter's business activities. And indeed, the testimony so far is that he was not. Even when they dined together or Hunter made phone calls in the presence of business contacts, the sworn testimony is that they just made father/son small talk. There is literally email records where Hunter tells his associates that he can't influence what his father does, but whatever happens, they should pretend like the did influence it--because it's good for business.

D. The $83K per month was business revenue, not a paycheck, and even if it weren't, your view of how amazing $83K per month is comically skewed. It's just not that much money. Not enough to incur risk or spawn an international conspiracy. Joe can make 10x that much with speaking and publishing. He doesn't need Hunter's relative pittance, nor would he risk that easy income for a relative pittance.

E. You timeline and conspiracy theory are entirely bumfuzzled. Again, the entire western world wanted Shokin fired. We have sworn testimony that Burisma believed that Shokin was protecting them. We have people from the prosecutors record in Ukraine noting that Shokin actively sabotaged the UK case against Burisma to protect them. Literally the only person who says that Shokin wasn't crooked is Shokin--and you, apparently.

F. What I think was actually going on is exactly what all the evidence shows was going on. -- Looking at evidence is how I reached the position, after all. By all appearances, Hunter derived significant business advantage from the expectation that he could influence his father. By all appearances, he didn't actually have any influence. By all appearances, Joe Biden is savvy enough to understand that his association is valuable to Hunter, and had no problem being visible (and audible) to do his son a favor--not a material favor, but the favor of visible association. That's not even unethical, let alone illegal. No harm, no foul.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

A. 58% of the population doesn't believe Biden did anything illegal

 

They believe he helped his son do illegal or at best shady things.

Lying about it doesn't make your case better.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I'll just address your multi-post tirade with this.

I can smell your desperation.

I can smell your BULLSHIT.

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

As I've said...it doesn't matter anymore. The public now believes he's crooked.

Mission accomplished. 

The FAT t-rump has not sung yet. ^Talk about desperation. LMAO

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Up yours. He's toast and all but you death-cultists know it.

The only CULTISTS here are MAGA. Duh

The rest of us are firmly anchored to REALITY and know US politics far better than you.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I doubt the perception that biden is crooked will do him in, certainly not on it's own.  Americans seem historically to forgive a little corruption provided results are being delivered.

I think that's where he's going to trip up.  Results are NOT being delivered. Too many things are going poorly, and he has the appearance of being too old for the job.

If trump gives people reason to believe that he will deliver better then people will likely move to him or just not vote at all, which is almost as good for him.

There is NO EVIDENCE of corruption on JOE BIDEN'S part.

You've fallen for ANOTHER Republican charade designed to damage poll numbers; as McCarthy bragged about with Hillary and Benghazi. American voters are not as stupid as YOU.

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They believe he helped his son do illegal or at best shady things.

Helped how? Joe was skeptical from the start: "I hope you know what you're doing," Joe told his son.

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Lying about it doesn't make your case better.

So STOP LYING about it. Duh

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I can smell your BULLSHIT.

 

That's just your diapers again - sometimes you get so worked  up when you're wrong that you kek yourself.  Go get those changed.

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The FAT t-rump has not sung yet. ^Talk about desperation.

The problem is that the pubilc is not seeing a lot of difference right now in that respect betewen fat trump and sleepy joe.  They see corruption and criminal activty allegations around both and the average person on the street isn't going to be interested in hearing your delusional rants about why one is guaranteed innocent and the other is guilty beyond a doubt.  They're just going to lump them in the same pot and say 'our politicians are crooked. " .   With that equal now - they look to performance.

And biden's performance isn't great. And they are worried that it will deteriorate as he ages.

He's got an uphill battle and pretending the public is going to care which one is MOAR corrupt is a fool's game.

[Rebound]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Up yours. He's toast and all but you death-cultists know it.

Your side has no evidence. 

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Your side has no evidence. 

But they do. Enough to say there's smoke.

And for 6 years "Your" side had zero evidence - but still insisted trump was guilty of russian collusion et al.

Now - biden will be thought of as being the same as trump and that's just how human brains work.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

I can smell your BULLSHIT.

The FAT t-rump has not sung yet. ^Talk about desperation. LMAO

Hunter just got dealt indictments. More to come.

Enjoy...

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

The only CULTISTS here are MAGA. Duh

The rest of us are firmly anchored to REALITY and know US politics far better than you.

There is NO EVIDENCE of corruption on JOE BIDEN'S part.

You've fallen for ANOTHER Republican charade designed to damage poll numbers; as McCarthy bragged about with Hillary and Benghazi. American voters are not as stupid as YOU.

LOL...you're anchored...LOL.

There is all kinds of evidence and Biden is already toast.

[Nationalist]

32 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Your side has no evidence. 

Who cares? He's already toast with the voting public.

Bye Bye Joe.