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Well thats 1000% better than they have ever had, they now have some of the puppets strings and they are making Justin dance...I don't think they will ever have that opportunity again...and when PP gets into power where do you think NDP will sit...nobody cares ....personally i hope they make up the official opposition and the liberals get pushed back into the back benches...It's a dream of mine...

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2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

How could you ever vote for them, knowing that at best your vote will translate into a second-tier LPOC backbencher?

If I think it'll translate into a minority government - that's been my desired outcome for decades now.

Minority governments simply have less power. I'm ideologically inclined towards the left but not the least bit partisan, especially federally. I'm pretty much just focused on the relationship between the governed and the government and a lot more oversight for the former over the latter.

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2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That would be sweet.

it might sound sweet, but the Cons are heading for a majority...and with nothing in common with the NDP, they will be reduced to back ground noise , and no strings for them to pull to get heard on the floor, or get any thing from their to do list done... they will bleed votes as well...

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11 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

the Cons are heading for a majority...

I wonder what a CAQ opposition would be like? Two conservative nationalist parties. It would be interesting to see the result of a Conservative minority backed up the CAQ.

19 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

and with nothing in common with the NDP, they will be reduced to back ground noise

If it's likely the CPC and CAQ will hold the most seats following an election I'll definitely vote NDP. They're likeliest to win my riding.  A lone truly left wing voice in a right wing ocean will find a way stand out. As you should know, from my perspective the Liberals are right wing too.

There's definitely a more conservative world ahead of us. It's Poilievre's election to lose.

Good luck, don't cok it up - you see a lot of that in governments these days.

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A minority Conservative government is what I'm hoping for the most.  I can't think of anything more that would strain the relationship between the CPC's normal conservatives and its deplorables. The latter are who really need to be banished to the distant margins. I figure they make up at least 25% of the party's base.

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1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Well thats 1000% better than they have ever had, they now have some of the puppets strings and they are making Justin dance...I don't think they will ever have that opportunity again...and when PP gets into power where do you think NDP will sit...nobody cares ....personally i hope they make up the official opposition and the liberals get pushed back into the back benches...It's a dream of mine...

Again you mean. The ndp DID form official opposition before and pushed the libs to the back bench. The libs were furious because the ndp actually DARED to ask for the opposition offices and the libs had to make do with the lower class office space :)  

But yea - it wasn't even close, layton totally kicked the libs to the curb and was opposition.

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10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm hoping for a Conservative minority. I can't think of anything that would better strain the relationship between the Conservative's normal conservatives and their deplorables.

Pushing the latter to the margins is what Canada could really benefit from most I think.

 

Fortunately you'll likely be disappointed. And you and your rabid leftie friends will have no influence long enough for the more honest people to clean up your mess and corruption.

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1 hour ago, Nexii said:

Or perhaps too hard for those that remain NDP voters

The party's changed and not for the better. Them backing the EA was shocking to be honest, about as anti-worker as it gets

I don' t know if it's changed much - it's always had a weird duality.  There's the Worker's ndp which stands up for blue collar workers, workers rights, low and middle class Citizens, etc etc. Then there is the activist NDP side which is all about ideology, Wokeism, that sort of thing. Over the years those two different Sides have been stronger one way or another. For example Layton was certainly more of the workers every day man and the poor class supporter. Nowadays it's more about wokeism, and the Truckers represented a threat to the left-wing woke concepts of the day.

I doubt very much that Jack layton would have supported the emergency act being used. I suspect that at some point in the future they will shift back to being the low and middle class worker party again. But right now they are social justice warrior left-wing activist party

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Unfortunately, it's hard to answer such a question when asked by working people who actively support a Party that consistently acts against their own interests and fails to see the relevance of pulling the strings of the Party that sometimes acts in their own interests.

But then again if wokeness and trannies are your main concern and can't distinguish between social and political issues... kind of explains it. Like if banning Drag Queen storytime is more important to you than daycare, dental coverage and senior's phaemacare, there's not much point, is there?

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17 hours ago, eyeball said:

A minority Conservative government is what I'm hoping for the most.  I can't think of anything more that would strain the relationship between the CPC's normal conservatives and its deplorables. The latter are who really need to be banished to the distant margins. I figure they make up at least 25% of the party's base.

Who are these deplorables that you speak of?

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11 hours ago, Nexii said:

Yea and the worker's party won 103 seats, while the activist party will be lucky to cling to 25

Tells you which version most people prefer

For sure.  IF we want to go to the extreme for demonstrations look what extreme 'wokeism' did to the greens - after lizzie spent most of her life building it up.

Frankly i think there's a real place for the 'workers ndp' rather than the SJWNDP.  They USED to be referred to as the 'conscious of the house",  always raising important issues and shedding light on the abuses of the party in power no matter who when they stepped out of line, and getting discussion happening about important issues.  Even if they didn't get what they 'wanted' they got people talking about it and frequenly shamed parties into addressing the issues one way or another.  And layton showed they could win the big chair if they focused on.... well, basically what PP is right now. The promise of Canada - work hard, be a good person in your community, do what's asked of you and we'll all pull together and you'll have a nice life for you and your kids that just a little bit better than your parents.

I have no such words to offer for SJW NDP and jagmeet is an exploitive scumbag opportunist.

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

For sure.  IF we want to go to the extreme for demonstrations look what extreme 'wokeism' did to the greens - after lizzie spent most of her life building it up.

Frankly i think there's a real place for the 'workers ndp' rather than the SJWNDP.  They USED to be referred to as the 'conscious of the house",  always raising important issues and shedding light on the abuses of the party in power no matter who when they stepped out of line, and getting discussion happening about important issues.  Even if they didn't get what they 'wanted' they got people talking about it and frequenly shamed parties into addressing the issues one way or another.  And layton showed they could win the big chair if they focused on.... well, basically what PP is right now. The promise of Canada - work hard, be a good person in your community, do what's asked of you and we'll all pull together and you'll have a nice life for you and your kids that just a little bit better than your parents.

I have no such words to offer for SJW NDP and jagmeet is an exploitive scumbag opportunist.

Yea I'd hoped the NDP would set their hopes higher than mid 20s seats after Layton, but I guess they're content with Jagmeet. Greens could have made real traction too. People care about the environment but they fell into the exact same trap.

It's disenheartening but that's democracy I guess. Sometimes a party needs to be wiped out in an election to get their act in order.

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