Deluge Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 Just now, Aristides said: Well, you are too lazy to look up anything yourself or even read the links you ask for. Dude, you crazies are trying to tell us that "pumping the planet full of heat trapping carbon dioxide, mainly from the use of fossil fuels" is heating the oceans which then causes hurricanes. IF that is the case, why in the f*ck isn't EVERY f*cking democrat completely OFF fossil fuels? 1 Quote
Hodad Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Deluge said: No, Biden's bullshit Maui tour is exactly the level of empathy and engagement you expected. That stupid scumbag had the audacity to talk about some of HIS past problems thinking that would help connect him to his audience - what a useless dumbf*ck. lol Maui needs help, not Joe Biden's brief vacation detour. Maui is getting help. That was an unnecessary anecdote and I don't think it achieved the goal of connecting with his audience. He did make an effort, but perhaps he should have thrown rolls of paper towels. ? Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Rebound said: Oh, excuse me, I didn’t know that we suddenly changed the subject to hurricanes in the middle of the ocean! You’re never going to get anywhere in life if this is how you learn. We never changed it to that, that has always been your topic. When you cite excess hurricanes, like you did earlier, they're all just out in the middle of the ocean where no one would have known about them 100 years ago. You're never gonna get any respect in life from decent humans if you're always gonna lie. Your kids are watching you. Your spouse is learning not to trust you. You're a shitty person in general if you can't tell the truth. Your only excuse to talk the way you do is if you're a foreign influencer posing as a Canadian/American to push false narratives that damage our countries. Quote By 1905, we certainly did record every single hurricane that hit the continental US. That's right. And hurricanes making landfall didn't increase, as you claimed earlier. When you look at actual data, instead of talking out of your ass, it's obvious. Quote The Atlantic sea lanes were also very busy with shipping and weather was very carefully monitored. Turns out, people didn’t want their ships to sink and when they did, it was a big deal. By 1911, with the sinking of Titanic, we know that ships all had radio and could relay weather conditions to one another across the busy shipping lanes. By your reckoning, how did a hurricane sneak up on Galveston, all the way in the Gulf of Mexico? It's not like Cooper's Town in the Bahamas, staring out at a thousand miles of open ocean. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Deluge Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: Maui is getting help. That was an unnecessary anecdote and I don't think it achieved the goal of connecting with his audience. He did make an effort, but perhaps he should have thrown rolls of paper towels. ? Tossed paper towels. At least Trump tossed those people items of use. All hair sniffer could do is try to make that visit about himself - what a f*cking narcissist lol. Edited August 23, 2023 by Deluge Quote
Aristides Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, Deluge said: Dude, you crazies are trying to tell us that "pumping the planet full of heat trapping carbon dioxide, mainly from the use of fossil fuels" is heating the oceans which then causes hurricanes. IF that is the case, why in the f*ck isn't EVERY f*cking democrat completely OFF fossil fuels? You think the climate gives a shit about politics? Quote
Deluge Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: You think the climate gives a shit about politics? You think people are going to listen to you a$$holes when you're ALREADY pumping carbon dioxide into the air? Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Deluge said: Climate change sure looks scary. 3mm/yr adds up fast in 3 years, right? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Deluge Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: 3mm/yr adds up fast in 3 years, right? Yes. All coastal cities better pull up their stakes and move inland about 20 miles, just to be safe. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 3mm/yr adds up fast in 3 years, right? Another link you guys didn’t bother to read. Quote
Nationalist Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Hodad said: Are you capable of formulating a cogent reply to any point of conversation? Is that a thing you know how to do? -- And if so, why don't you do it? Everything I said there is true and simply accepted as fact in economics. You are welcome to present a heterodox argument, but your weird feelings don't constitute an argument. Frankly, after extensive talks about gas prices, I think you have almost no knowledge or understanding of economics and aren't equipped to formulate any opinion on globalization one way or another. In which case, my advice is that you should stop spouting off random, uninformed crap and go learn something. And I quote... Quote Can the US economy succeed without a big manufacturing base? According to Pisano and Shih, without a manufacturing sector it will become very difficult for the US economy to sustain innovation. The “exporting” of manufacturing work overseas in the form of off-shoring, they claim, risks the erosion of America's industrial commons.Jul 23, 2012 And again... https://www.productionmachining.com/articles/waking-up-to-a-world-without-manufacturing So what does this all mean? Well...it means that if all the lemming-minded goofs follow the WTO blindly down their path, the end result will be disastrous. But you go ahead and follow this dumb-ass off the cliff. I...on the other hand...will follow tried and true economic management rules. Have a nice fall. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Another link you guys didn’t bother to read. You're not a font of reliable info Aristedes. Pretty much everything that you ever said here is BS. Why would I sift through the entirety of one of your links? If there's something worthwhile in there then copy and paste that part. I read through robo's links all the time and then have to show him how his article doesn't say what he thinks it does. Tell me what you think your article is saying and I'll look at it. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Aristides Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: 3mm/yr adds up fast in 3 years, right? Another link you didn't bother to read. Quote
Aristides Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You're not a font of reliable info Aristedes. Pretty much everything that you ever said here is BS. Why would I sift through the entirety of one of your links? If there's something worthwhile in there then copy and paste that part. I read through robo's links all the time and then have to show him how his article doesn't say what he thinks it does. Tell me what you think your article is saying and I'll look at it. What I post are links to sources that actually monitor what is happening in the world. All you and Deluge post is what comes out of your ass. You ask for links and I provide them. I'm not your mommy, read them yourself. Quote
Hodad Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: And I quote... And again... https://www.productionmachining.com/articles/waking-up-to-a-world-without-manufacturing So what does this all mean? Well...it means that if all the lemming-minded goofs follow the WTO blindly down their path, the end result will be disastrous. But you go ahead and follow this dumb-ass off the cliff. I...on the other hand...will follow tried and true economic management rules. Have a nice fall. You don't always say who or what you're quoting, but at least you're quoting! And that's something. Look, you can't reasonably complain about inflation and root for more expensive local manufacturing at the same time. Like you, the rest of the market is going to go with the cheapest equivalent product, and that's usually made in LDCs. Meanwhile, we continue to develop the knowledge economy. The service sector has grown as the manufacturing sector has shrunk. It's not an exact 1:1 trade off, but it's to be considered. And it should also go without saying that we may not have the perfect balance of domestic manufacturing vs offshore manufacturing, but it's simplistic and silly to say that all of one or all of another is the right answer. We live in a global marketplace, and always will. Unless you'd prefer a strictly controlled marketplace via authoritarian government, which could effectively limit the freedom of choice for citizens. Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: What I post are links to sources that actually monitor what is happening in the world. All you and Deluge post is what comes out of your ass. You ask for links and I provide them. I'm not your mommy, read them yourself. If you explain how 3mm a year = gone in 3 years I'll listen, dumbass. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Aristides Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: If you explain how 3mm a year = gone in 3 years I'll listen, dumbass. Read the link, dipshit. Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 Just now, Aristides said: Read the link, dipshit. That's not how it works, dipshit. Speak about something and then paste a link to back up what you said. Don't just send people on reading assignments on vox, rolling stone, etc. If the Malidves are going to be gone in a few (aka 3-ish) years then say why, and then post a link. You're talking about rising seas levels and vanishing islands, but sea levels have only risen 20 cm in 120 years. You need to do a little more explaining than that. Write down your stupid little beliefs and I'll make fun of them. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Aristides Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: That's not how it works, dipshit. Speak about something and then paste a link to back up what you said. Don't just send people on reading assignments on vox, rolling stone, etc. If the Malidves are going to be gone in a few (aka 3-ish) years then say why, and then post a link. You're talking about rising seas levels and vanishing islands, but sea levels have only risen 20 cm in 120 years. You need to do a little more explaining than that. Write down your stupid little beliefs and I'll make fun of them. Climb back into your cave where you won't have to deal with the real world. I've given you the information and you are determined to ignore it. You are a complete waste of time. You can't fight self inflicted ignorance. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, Hodad said: You don't always say who or what you're quoting, but at least you're quoting! And that's something. Look, you can't reasonably complain about inflation and root for more expensive local manufacturing at the same time. Like you, the rest of the market is going to go with the cheapest equivalent product, and that's usually made in LDCs. Meanwhile, we continue to develop the knowledge economy. The service sector has grown as the manufacturing sector has shrunk. It's not an exact 1:1 trade off, but it's to be considered. And it should also go without saying that we may not have the perfect balance of domestic manufacturing vs offshore manufacturing, but it's simplistic and silly to say that all of one or all of another is the right answer. We live in a global marketplace, and always will. Unless you'd prefer a strictly controlled marketplace via authoritarian government, which could effectively limit the freedom of choice for citizens. Nice addition of the word "authoritarian". Its bullshit of course...but nice touch with the sound-byte. Fact is...tariffs used to level the playing field for local manufactures. Nobody complained. That was how we did international business for decades. Maybe even centuries. Why? Because a nation without a manufacturing sector, or a very small one, is destined to experience shortages in supply. We've seen stark examples of that recently but you don't seem to care as long as you can go to Wallymart and buy cheap-ass shit. And I absolutely can complain. The dumb-ass crap Biden is doing is unnecessarily causing prices of everything to be inflated. And it all boils down to 2 things IMO. 1. This insane war on fossil fuels. 2. Gross over spending. The bottom line is...Biden is an abject failure. This Green New Deal is a back-assedwards way of addressing a problem...regardless of how serious one may think it is. Biden is spending money nobody has like a drunken sailor. Its dangerous...stupid...and damaging. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Nice addition of the word "authoritarian". Its bullshit of course...but nice touch with the sound-byte. Fact is...tariffs used to level the playing field for local manufactures. Nobody complained. That was how we did international business for decades. Maybe even centuries. Why? Because a nation without a manufacturing sector, or a very small one, is destined to experience shortages in supply. We've seen stark examples of that recently but you don't seem to care as long as you can go to Wallymart and buy cheap-ass shit. And I absolutely can complain. The dumb-ass crap Biden is doing is unnecessarily causing prices of everything to be inflated. And it all boils down to 2 things IMO. 1. This insane war on fossil fuels. 2. Gross over spending. The bottom line is...Biden is an abject failure. This Green New Deal is a back-assedwards way of addressing a problem...regardless of how serious one may think it is. Biden is spending money nobody has like a drunken sailor. Its dangerous...stupid...and damaging. "I hate inflation!" vs. "We need tariffs to make goods more expensive" "There's a war on fossil fuels" vs. Oil production is at record levels and we are a net energy exporter. "Biden spends too much" vs. Biden has dramatically reduced the Trump deficits ^Sometimes you argue with yourself. Sometimes you argue with reality. It's hard to keep track. Quote
Nationalist Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Hodad said: "I hate inflation!" vs. "We need tariffs to make goods more expensive" "There's a war on fossil fuels" vs. Oil production is at record levels and we are a net energy exporter. "Biden spends too much" vs. Biden has dramatically reduced the Trump deficits ^Sometimes you argue with yourself. Sometimes you argue with reality. It's hard to keep track. Such lies. Do you eat with those fingers? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Such lies. Do you eat with those fingers? Identify a single lie. Meanwhile, look at my finger for yourself.? Edited August 24, 2023 by Hodad 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hodad said: Identify a single lie. Meanwhile, look at my finger for yourself.? All 3 of your points. 1. The very idea that manufacturing is not a necessary staple of a healthy economy and product security, is just asinine. https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/operations/our-insights/want-to-drive-inclusive-economic-growth-start-with-manufacturing 2. If what you say were true, why is gas so expensive and the Saudis and OPEC telling Joe to suck rocks? https://thepostmillennial.com/white-house-says-america-must-reduce-dependence-on-foreign-oil-and-oil-in-general 3. Biden's spending and policies drove all product prices up faster than I can remember. That now things settle some does not mean prices across the board are not hurting everyone. They are. Your ignorance of that is either a matter of you not caring that poorer folks are paying a heavy price...let them eat cake...or your just a partisan hack. One or the other. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Rebound Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, WestCanMan said: We never changed it to that, that has always been your topic. When you cite excess hurricanes, like you did earlier, they're all just out in the middle of the ocean where no one would have known about them 100 years ago. You're never gonna get any respect in life from decent humans if you're always gonna lie. Your kids are watching you. Your spouse is learning not to trust you. You're a shitty person in general if you can't tell the truth. Your only excuse to talk the way you do is if you're a foreign influencer posing as a Canadian/American to push false narratives that damage our countries. That's right. And hurricanes making landfall didn't increase, as you claimed earlier. When you look at actual data, instead of talking out of your ass, it's obvious. By your reckoning, how did a hurricane sneak up on Galveston, all the way in the Gulf of Mexico? It's not like Cooper's Town in the Bahamas, staring out at a thousand miles of open ocean. F you and your childish word games, jackass. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Hodad Posted August 24, 2023 Report Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Nationalist said: All 3 of your points. 1. The very idea that manufacturing is not a necessary staple of a healthy economy and product security, is just asinine. https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/operations/our-insights/want-to-drive-inclusive-economic-growth-start-with-manufacturing 2. If what you say were true, why is gas so expensive and the Saudis and OPEC telling Joe to suck rocks? https://thepostmillennial.com/white-house-says-america-must-reduce-dependence-on-foreign-oil-and-oil-in-general 3. Biden's spending and policies drove all product prices up faster than I can remember. That now things settle some does not mean prices across the board are not hurting everyone. They are. Your ignorance of that is either a matter of you not caring that poorer folks are paying a heavy price...let them eat cake...or your just a partisan hack. One or the other. 1. Completely irrelevant to the fact that you simultaneously whine about inflation AND advocate for tariffs. 2. You don't have to say stupid shit like "if what you say is true." Oil production is not a matter of opinion. You can literally look up the production volume and see that we are producing at record levels. And I've really lost count of how many times I've explained to you that gas prices are high in spite of high domestic production because OIL IS A GLOBAL COMMODITY. Market prices are set by global supply and demand. 3. Biden's deficits are dramatically lower than those he inherited from Trump. Again, not a matter of opinion. Look it up. It's been posted here so many times, but by all means, go look for yourself. And I think for either POTUS spending as a driver of inflation is questionable. At a minimum, it's complicated. Inflation is a result of too many dollars chasing too few goods. Yes, government spending increased during the pandemic, BUT did it put enough dollars into the economy to offset the pandemic contraction? Probably not. In fact, you can see negative GDP growth in 2020. So clearly the inflation driver there is too few goods due to the global supply chain disruption. GDP rebounded dramatically in 2021, so more dollars were in the system, but still we managed to keep our inflation rate lower than most other countries, so again I'd place most of the blame on supply chain disruption. And what do we get for that deficit spending? Well, we avoided another 2008-sized recession or worse--massive economic disruption. And a quick post -pandemic recovery. A bargain compared to the alternative. To be clear, when people point the finger at Biden deficits I am happy to point out Trump's larger deficits, but Trump wasn't wrong on this. (His mistakes were earlier.) Those deficit spending measures in response to the pandemic were absolutely the right choice. Edited August 24, 2023 by Hodad Quote
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