Book with pictures of graphic gay sex technique approved for k-12 in BC.

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

The state has no right?  Well that's new.  Why not?

Well then you’re basically saying that the ruling party has the right to kill the opposition if they want simply because they’re in power.  

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

This from the guy who didn't know how we get a prime minister

Oh no, I was lying again. You do disbelieve me right?

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Oh no, I was lying again. You do disbelieve me right?

On the contrary - you made it quite clear you didn't know how the prime minister came to power and i believe that you were telling the truth entirely

Did you want a minute to go back and edit your posts do you don't look as stupid ? LOL

[Aristides]

Just to be clear, the book has been approved to be included in school libraries, it is not part of the curriculum.

Twitter is not a reliable source of news.

Edited July 25, 2023 by Aristides

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I think your viewpoint is a pot-meet-kettle sort of situation.  Not everything the socially conservative say is wrong or unfair, and your dismissing the reasonable cases as over-the-top just showcases how unreasonable the other side often is.

I'm pretty sure there's lots of room between the kettle and the pot and I'm mocking as opposed to dismissing all criticism. For example I think the "recommended for readers 15 and over" sense coming out of Australia is fair and balanced.  I might add a "not recommended for kids with hard-boiled right-wing parents" label as well but that's me.

What I will dismiss is the outrageous mischaracterizations of their criticism, probably because the people doing this mischaracterizing also spend an equal amount of time associating pedophelia with social liberals.  It's what informs and comprises the bulk of their bigoted ignorant criticism. I trust political science curricula adequately describes what and where hard-boiled right-wingers are on the ideological spectrum.  If it isn't it should be, starting by grade 3 at least. 

 

[eyeball]

20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

On the contrary - you made it quite clear you didn't know how the prime minister came to power and i believe that you were telling the truth entirely

Did you want a minute to go back and edit your posts do you don't look as stupid ? LOL

No, I was lying to you. I always knew it wasn't how you thought.

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

The state has no right?  Well that's new.  Why not?

The state is prone to overreach and needs to be kept limited in power. If there's one thing guaranteed to goof things up, it's government.

All good conservatives know that.   

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

No, I was lying to you. I always knew it wasn't how you thought.

You very clearly weren't  You even tried to quote sources to support your position  

 And it's entirely believable you're that stupid

You lie all the time, but you're not very good at it. So it's easy to tell.  You were being entirely serious and you just didn't have a clue    For example it's painfully obvious you're lying now.   -  can't say as i blame you considering how stupid what you said was.

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

The state is prone to overreach and needs to be kept limited in power. If there's one thing guaranteed to goof things up, it's government.

All good conservatives know that.   

Yeah but to say that is different than stating that they don't have a certain right.

I guess as a turn of phrase it's ok, but nobody buys it.

[OftenWrong]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah but to say that is different than stating that they don't have a certain right.

I guess as a turn of phrase it's ok, but nobody buys it.

Then allow me to put it more eloquently, "The government has no business in the bedrooms of Canadians."

Trudeau senior's quote has a wider meaning than for just gay marriage, which he may have been referring to at the time. Today there are people, Canadians, who want to raise their kids according to their own cultural beliefs. Many immigrants and new Canadians are devout religious types. They want to protect their six-year-olds from being exposed to adult content while they are so young. The conflict between liberal "progressives" and multiculturalism now rears its ugly head.

The best position is for the government to be disarmed and they must remain neutral. They provide the framework and the laws, services, run the economy. There needs to be sharp borders where government authority and /or influence is cut off. Censor the government.

[Moonbox]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm pretty sure there's lots of room between the kettle and the pot and I'm mocking as opposed to dismissing all criticism. For example I think the "recommended for readers 15 and over" sense coming out of Australia is fair and balanced.  I might add a "not recommended for kids with hard-boiled right-wing parents" label as well but that's me.

I don't think so, in this case, because "recommended for readers 15 and over" is about as clear an invitation as you can get for someone 15 or under to read the book.  It's not like it's going to be under lock and key.  

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

What I will dismiss is the outrageous mischaracterizations of their criticism, probably because the people doing this mischaracterizing also spend an equal amount of time associating pedophelia with social liberals.

You and I both have the same feelings on those types, but what good does it do mocking a topic even like this?  Porno comics in the K-12 school library?  It's so cluelessly out of touch it makes me cringe...like come on...

Giving an inch, once in awhile, is good for your sanity.  

 

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Giving an inch, once in awhile, is good for your sanity.

Except they'll take a mile. It just is what it is.

Why don't they start a separate insulated school system for themselves?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Except they'll take a mile. It just is what it is.

Why don't they start a separate insulated school system for themselves?

Not a problem - provided they get to opt out of tax dollars for your system, or that they get as much money for theirs from the gov't. I'm not sure you'll like that tho.

Bigots like you have resisted reasonable solutions since humanity started keeping recoreds at least. It IS a big deal, it is inappropriate and the concerned parents do have a wealth of science on their side to say that sexualizing children is bad for them.  Trying to pretend it's nothing or that somehow anyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't actually have rights or should segregate themselves is generally associated with the bad guys in history.

[eyeball]

Where're my cites?

F**k off in the meantime.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Where're my cites?

F**k off in the meantime.

Awwwww - is the wittle wefty wiar getting triggered? LOL

Everyone knows you're a liar.  You lie all the time, you fake quotes, you erase things you've said that make you look stupid and pretend you didn't, you're just a dishonest person and you do it often enough that everyone sees it.

Like i said - you dont' need to cite that the sun comes up in the east, everyone knows it already  

[RedDog]

Maybe we can have another Aids “conference” and 200 Africans can demand acceptance. It’s what we do best.

[OftenWrong]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Why don't they start a separate insulated school system for themselves?

Not a bad suggestion. The "Separate School Board" should be remodelled to be more inclusive toward other religions. No longer just for catholics, it should welcome muslims as well. 

Then they can put up a banner at the front that says "we don't teach little kids about trannies here."

[Nationalist]

This is sick. Plain and simple. A disgusting example of "give 'em an inch, they take a mile".

And progs wonder why they are so mistrusted...

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

 Then they can put up a banner at the front that says "we don't teach little kids about trannies here."

Except a strong majority of separate schools in Ontario celebrate Pride ... there's a strange amplification effect that happens when people misinterpret scripture and foment conflict in the name of religion.  I guess people love a good fight.

[OftenWrong]

47 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Except a strong majority of separate schools in Ontario celebrate Pride ... there's a strange amplification effect that happens when people misinterpret scripture and foment conflict in the name of religion.  I guess people love a good fight.

I have no explanation for how that came about. Blame Soros.

But my hunch is that most parents and religious leaders would oppose the separate school boards stance. Although "celebrating pride" does not necessarily mean bringing in drag queens to reading hour, or offering hardcore gay porn in the library.

If the separate board intends to follow the public one, it raises the demand for another separate school system. Those who are religious will seek an alternative from state-sanctioned porn being taught in the public.

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, OftenWrong said:

1. I have no explanation for how that came about. Blame Soros.

2. But my hunch is that most parents and religious leaders would oppose the separate school boards stance.

3. Although "celebrating pride" does not necessarily mean bringing in drag queens to reading hour, or offering hardcore gay porn in the library.

4. If the separate board intends to follow the public one, it raises the demand for another separate school system. Those who are religious will seek an alternative from state-sanctioned porn being taught in the public.

1.  ?
2. Your hunch means navy beans, though.  Something like that should be easily backed up by looking at polls and so on.  My experience is that parents, even religious parents, have no more tolerance from intolerance.
3. Yes
4. Funny enough, the very few Catholic schools who oppose flying the rainbow are prompting calls for an end to publically funded religious schooling.  That's taxpayer money paying for the indoctrination of those ideas so...

[OftenWrong]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

That's taxpayer money paying for the indoctrination of those ideas so...

Indoctrination of ideas goes both ways in this regard, which is why all of it should be removed from the government/ education system's sphere. Stick to the 3 r's, etc.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

A disgusting example of "give 'em an inch, they take a mile".

Well THAT was an unfortunate choice of words........

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Indoctrination of ideas goes both ways in this regard, which is why all of it should be removed from the government/ education system's sphere. Stick to the 3 r's, etc.

For the win.  But the left really doesn't like that idea.

[Michael Hardner]

33 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Indoctrination of ideas goes both ways in this regard, which is why all of it should be removed from the government/ education system's sphere. Stick to the 3 r's, etc.

Yeah... your opinion doesn't surprise me but without a way to implement it you are calling out in the dark...