Nationalist Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Moonbox said: "Planned panic and insanity" ?? George Soros Klaus Schwab WHO, MSM fake news, something something SPOOKS! Moonbat...are you following me? I'm a hetero male and quite married. Try following one of your touchy-feely buddies. Perhaps you can get a quickie out of one of them? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yes...the move off the gold standard along with the costs incurred by both the Vietnam war and the new social programs did create a huge bout of inflation. This was all caused by something called...overspending by the government. WAY overspending. We have the same issue now. The governments have literally spent us into an inflationary cycle. And sure...people are going to try to stretch their credit for a while, till they start getting in trouble. But a new car or a vacation is not the primary cause of this inflation. Panic and insanity that appears to have been...planned...created this. You are right but about overspending by governments but, you have to admit, for personal debt to be so high, people have to take some responsibility for themselves. I mean, travel is way up, car sales are way up, housing sales are way up. Sales of luxury items are way up too. https://www.vox.com/money/23728283/luxury-designer-boom-nike-lvmh-pandemic-le-creuset People spending money they don't have has caused a good part of this situation. Like I said earlier, when inflation and borrowing rates were more then triple what they are now, I had to do without a lot of things. That scheme seems not to be the way many folks are looking at it today. You cannot buy your way out of inflation, in the end you need to pay for your excess. "Bankruptcies increased by 25.0% and proposals increased by 29.0%. The total number of insolvencies in March 2023 was 28.3% higher than the total number of insolvencies in March 2022. Consumer insolvencies increased by 28.0%, while business insolvencies increased by 36.8%." https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/office-superintendent-bankruptcy/en/statistics-and-research/insolvency-statistics-canada-march-2023-highlights 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nationalist Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: You are right but about overspending by governments but, you have to admit, for personal debt to be so high, people have to take some responsibility for themselves. I mean, travel is way up, car sales are way up, housing sales are way up. Sales of luxury items are way up too. https://www.vox.com/money/23728283/luxury-designer-boom-nike-lvmh-pandemic-le-creuset People spending money they don't have has caused a good part of this situation. Like I said earlier, when inflation and borrowing rates were more then triple what they are now, I had to do without a lot of things. That scheme seems not to be the way many folks are looking at it today. You cannot buy your way out of inflation, in the end you need to pay for your excess. "Bankruptcies increased by 25.0% and proposals increased by 29.0%. The total number of insolvencies in March 2023 was 28.3% higher than the total number of insolvencies in March 2022. Consumer insolvencies increased by 28.0%, while business insolvencies increased by 36.8%." https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/office-superintendent-bankruptcy/en/statistics-and-research/insolvency-statistics-canada-march-2023-highlights Millennials being the spoiled brats they are I would guess. Its CERB and the nonsensical edicts from Pixie-Dust and his government that has created this mess. These brats just perpetuate it...IMO. Free money...shutdowns...carbon horseshit. The perfect financial storm. 2 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Moonbox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Moonbat...are you following me? I'm a hetero male and quite married. Try following one of your touchy-feely buddies. Perhaps you can get a quickie out of one of them? I was in this thread before you were, dum-dum. ? Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nationalist Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Moonbox said: I was in this thread before you were, dum-dum. ? LOL...and...that's important to you? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Queenmandy85 Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 There are a couple of life lessons we were taught in our youth. 1. Don't borrow money needlessly. If you cannot afford it, don't buy it. Cut up all of your credit cards, or pay them off every month. If you carry a zero balance, you pay zero interest but there is still the matter of those annual fees. Terminate your credit accounts. 2. Invest your money in GIC's. Start when you are 20. Buy stock in the major banks. Get your hands on some of those "obscene" profits. 3. High interest is good for your investments. It only hurts people who borrow money. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Moonbox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: LOL...and...that's important to you? Well, it's pretty stupid to say I'm following you when I was here before you, isn't it? One thing came before the other, but I guess even time works differently in your warped reality. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nationalist Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Well, it's pretty stupid to say I'm following you when I was here before you, isn't it? One thing came before the other, but I guess even time works differently in your warped reality. lol...you might wanna think about that one a bit more... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: For sure inflation is a problem but, it is a world wide problem and a small nation like Canada that relies on imports pays for it. SOME inflation was unavoidable - you can't dump billions of unearned dollars into the economy and not have inflation, and we couldn't just force people to stop working during covid with nothing to help at all. But a LOT of the current inflation is due directly to trudeau's policy. He vastly overspent on covid releief, and remember that he has DOUBLED our national debt and the vast majority of that had NOTHING TO DO with covid spending. The covid relief also went on far too long and there were far too many loopholes that they just allowed to continue so a lot of it went to businesses who didn't need it. The AG and budget officers have chimed in on this. Trudeau's policies led to at LEAST a 1 - 1.5 percent inflation increase that didn't need to be there. Carbon tax added another .5 which many felt was actually a lowball estimate and of course it's gone up since then. So at least 2, probably more like 3 percent of the increase we've faced is due directly to trudeau's policies. We should have had inflation for LESS time and at a lower rate than we did. And those prices don't go away - it will take years before wages catch up with that and that assumes we get back to 2 soon. So trudeau has cut everyone's pay dramatically, and the lowest income earner's the most. I will now await while you prepare your usual post explaining why facts aren't facts, left is actually right, in is really out, and then demand it's all opinion and then have a hissy fit. 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: lol...you might wanna think about that one a bit more... you know how he is. If he can't defeat your position but he doesn't like it then he goes after some other tiny detail and argues that instead. If you REALLY honk him off he'll start memeing at you. 2 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, CdnFox said: SOME inflation was unavoidable .... I will now await while you prepare your usual post explaining why facts aren't facts, left is actually right, in is really out, and then demand it's all opinion and then have a hissy fit. .... You have no facts, all your verbiage are rectal plucks. Nothing you said can be backed up, as usual. No hissy fit , just don't agree with most of what you spout. Can't wait for your hissy fit . Here comes the name calling and excuses, as usual LOL 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 54 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You have no facts, all your verbiage are rectal plucks. Nothing you said can be backed up, as usual. LOL There were a number of facts in there. Easily verified You know you're starting to sound like robosmith more and more. Here - a 1 second google search on the carbon tax for example: https://globalnews.ca/news/8681032/bank-governor-carbon-tax-boosted-inflation-rate-by-nearly-half-a-point/ And of course - you knew that was true. The rest of them are as well. And i expect the hissy fit is yet to come You always do when you can't defend your point any further. But hey, if you've grown up and learned to be adult about your mistakes so much the better! 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, herbie said: Doesn't help that the rate is lower now if it was higher before. remember that the inflation rate this year is on top of the inflation last year (and previous years). Our hyper inflatlion started early, and the rate is settling down but the overall inflation for that period is still higher for us than many, and absolutely higher than it should have been. According to the BoC anyway 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Moonbox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: The AG and budget officers have chimed in on this. Trudeau's policies led to at LEAST a 1 - 1.5 percent inflation increase that didn't need to be there. Do you have a cite for that? 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Do you have a cite for that? Yes. i'm sure you can look it up as easily as i did, unless you're just sealioning made all the papers at the time. I already gave you guys one freebee after Exflyer couldn't figure out how google worked. Now - if you want to admit you're a completely useless and incompetent loser who doesn't know how to use google, then I'll post the link that it should have taken you about 30 seconds to find. If i have time and feel like it But i'm confident you have more than enough skill to find it yourself. But perhaps you have some other source that suggests a different amount? This isn't going to be like your utter failure to produce the math for the rise in inflation for poor people is it? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, CdnFox said: Doesn't help that the rate is lower now if it was higher before. remember that the inflation rate this year is on top of the inflation last year (and previous years). Our hyper inflatlion started early, and the rate is settling down but the overall inflation for that period is still higher for us than many, and absolutely higher than it should have been. According to the BoC anyway Carbon tax started in quebec before 2007 and bc in 2008. Last was Ontario in 2019. Your argument is way off dudette LOL Oh and every year has a different inflation rate, since they started to keep track....you sure ain't a brain surgeon dudette LOL Oh and inflation was more then 3 times higher in the late 70's to mid 80's. Suck it up puppy, ya ain't got an argument. gotta do more than a 1 second search to validate your rectal pucks LOL Edited July 14, 2023 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
PIK Posted July 13, 2023 Report Posted July 13, 2023 $30.000 to go at 3.25%. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: Yes. Liar. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted July 14, 2023 Author Report Posted July 14, 2023 13 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Half the Republican Party believes it’s a hoax created by Bill Gates or George Soros to enslave the world or something so you tell me. Covid really is a bad flu. If people are walking on the edge of their grave it gives them a nudge and that's it, and the stats clearly showed that from very early on but our media tried to pretend that healthy adults and children were at risk because they always seem to benefit from crises. I still don't know a single healthy person that was gravely affected by covid before they were vaxed, and I know a lot of unvaxed. Quote So you make many misrepresentations about COVID and about what authorities said about covid I've never made a single misrepresentation about covid or what authorities said about it. "The vax WILL be safe and effective" is their old quote. Then they said "It IS safe and effective". They said that people who were vaxed "didn't have to worry about covid". Then when people got sick they said "They won't get hospitalized." Then they said "They won't end up in ICU". Then they said they won't die. They said "It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated". Then they said that they vax have an 80% lower chance of dying. Guess what? Almost 90% of covid deaths are among the unvaxed, and deaths were higher than ever in 2022 after we "vaxed" over 85% of our population. Authorities made about 25 DECLARATIVE statements that were all counterintuitive and which all turned out to be 100% wrong. Even after they were wrong they never admitted to it. They went all the way from "It IS safe and effective" to "It kills healthy people and it basically sucks" without ever apologizing, and they just kept on forcing people to take it after they knew that it was uselss. They also said things that were stupid, they also backed the WHO's id-e-o-c by just waiting to see if covid (of the coronavirus family, which are aerosol, highly contagious viruses) was spreading H2H, honest to God, everything that came out of their mouths was a mix of lies, stupidity, fear mongering, and hate mongering. hat's it. If you think that something I said there was a misrepresentation I'd love to know which one... Just pick the comment which you feel like you have the VERY BEST chance of refuting and I'll prove how stupid you are in my very next post. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Moonbox Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, CdnFox said: Yes. i'm sure you can look it up as easily as i did, unless you're just sealioning made all the papers at the time. I already gave you guys one freebee after Exflyer couldn't figure out how google worked. Now - if you want to admit you're a completely useless and incompetent loser who doesn't know how to use google, then I'll post the link that it should have taken you about 30 seconds to find. If i have time and feel like it But i'm confident you have more than enough skill to find it yourself. But perhaps you have some other source that suggests a different amount? This isn't going to be like your utter failure to produce the math for the rise in inflation for poor people is it? If it takes 30 seconds to find, wouldn't it make more sense to copy and paste a link instead of typing up three useless paragraphs of noise that don't convince anyone of anything beyond your reluctance/inability to back up your claim? Edited July 14, 2023 by Moonbox 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 14 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Quote remember that the inflation rate this year is on top of the inflation last year (and previous years). Carbon tax started in quebec before 2007 and bc in 2008. Last was Ontario in 2019. Your argument is way off dudette LOL What does carbon tax have to do with the fact that inflation this year is compounded on the inflation of last year? Quote Oh and every year has a different inflation rate, since they started to keep track....you sure ain't a brain surgeon dudette LOL ROFLMAO - yes, and every year is on top of the previous years You don't understand how that works? That if prices go up 3 percent this year and 2 percent next year, that the 2 percent is also applied to the 3 percent from the year before?!?! And that the total over two years is the combined total of both? So over two years the actual inflation rate is 5.06? ROFLMAO - holy shit kid ... you are officially too stupid for this conversation Inflation doesn't go away just becasue the rate lowers. Once the price goes up unless there's actually DEflation then the price stays there and whatever the new inflation rate is gets applied to that I had no idea you didnt' get that basic concept 10 hours ago, eyeball said: Liar. So you're saying you're a completely useless and incompetent loser who doesn't know how to use google Well i appreciate the confirmation but i think everyone knew that about you already 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Moonbox said: If it takes 30 seconds to find, wouldn't it make more sense to copy and paste a link It would make more sense to have looked it up yourself rather than waste the time asking But lets get real - you probably did and already know i'm correct. Just like Exflyer already knew i was when he claimed otherwise, But this is what you do. You KNOW you're wrong, but you don't like it so rather than argue the facts which you know are against you, you try to distract and change the subject. You'll demand i look up things for you that you already have, then argue the source or deamand additional info etc etc etc Justin trudeau and his policies are responsible for a very significant hunk of the inflation we've endured - and continues to be. Between his spending and the carbon tax at least about 2 percent of the inflation rate was his fault, arguably more. Now he's basically traded high inflation for high interest - so even tho the rate is lower people still have to pay higher prices and interest is killing their pocket book just as fast as high inflation. Your hero justin is costing Canadians deeply, and the poorest get it the worst. Prove me wrong Maybe some more of that inflation math of yours? 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Moonbox Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: It would make more sense to have looked it up yourself rather than waste the time asking But lets get real - you probably did and already know i'm correct. Just like Exflyer already knew i was when he claimed otherwise, But this is what you do. You KNOW you're wrong, but you don't like it so rather than argue the facts which you know are against you, you try to distract and change the subject. You'll demand i look up things for you that you already have, then argue the source or deamand additional info etc etc etc Justin trudeau and his policies are responsible for a very significant hunk of the inflation we've endured - and continues to be. Between his spending and the carbon tax at least about 2 percent of the inflation rate was his fault, arguably more. Now he's basically traded high inflation for high interest - so even tho the rate is lower people still have to pay higher prices and interest is killing their pocket book just as fast as high inflation. Your hero justin is costing Canadians deeply, and the poorest get it the worst. Prove me wrong Maybe some more of that inflation math of yours? So, once again, rather than copy+paste a cite that (as you say) requires 30 seconds to find, you chose to pound out a 1000+ rant of more worthless noise. That makes so much sense. ? Edited July 14, 2023 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
ExFlyer Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: What does carbon tax have to do with the fact that inflation this year is compounded on the inflation of last year? ROFLMAO - yes, and every year is on top of the previous years You don't understand how that works? That if prices go up 3 percent this year and 2 percent next year, that the 2 percent is also applied to the 3 percent from the year before?!?! And that the total over two years is the combined total of both? So over two years the actual inflation rate is 5.06? ROFLMAO - holy shit kid ... you are officially too stupid for this conversation Inflation doesn't go away just becasue the rate lowers. Once the price goes up unless there's actually DEflation then the price stays there and whatever the new inflation rate is gets applied to that I had no idea you didnt' get that basic concept So you're saying you're a completely useless and incompetent loser who doesn't know how to use google Well i appreciate the confirmation but i think everyone knew that about you already you brought up carbon tax LOL I know exactly how inflation works... but it is not cumulative, BINGO....name calling... I got a BINGO I told you so. You cannot post without name calling and insulting BINGO LOL LOL I think everyone knows about you dudette, don't get your way so you have a hissy fit. Are you on your period? LOL Take some Midol. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted July 14, 2023 Report Posted July 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: you brought up carbon tax LOL Some where i'm sure i did, but not in the line you QUOTED AND HIGHLIGHTED LOL LOL - you effed that up pretty bad Quote I know exactly how inflation works... but it is not cumulative, HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!! HOLY SHIT - do you NOT think you should have looked that up before hand? Of COURSE it's cumulative!!!!! How ELSE could it work?!?! When we say inflation was 2 percent in a year, we mean something that cost 100 dollars last year is 102 dollars this year. So if inflation is 2 percent the next year, then that item goes from 102 dollars to 104.04. So the inflation rate was 2 percent a year - over two years that' a rate of 4.04 percent! How in the hell did you THINK it worked? What did you think the inflation rate meant? I'm literally baffled anyone can be this dumb. it's literally called the ANNUAL inflation rate! Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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