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"Wokeness" Has Replaced Socialism as the Great Conservative Bogeyman


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3 hours ago, Contrarian said:

1. Acknowledging unfairness and striving for equal rights for all is important, but "woke" has also been used to describe extreme and divisive actions and rhetoric that undermine productive conversation and progress towards a common goal.

Reasonable folk can stand against the negative aspects of "woke" without denying the importance of equal rights.

  • I know is hard, to balance, but you can do it. 

2. Everyone fights their own battle, all I am saying is reasonable folk do not need a mob to stand on their two feet. I moved on to the radical centre now. ?

3. I am not hiding it, told you about it. But that is the idea of a centrist, I think anyways, right -> today on some issues, <- left tomorrow on others. The idea that "one side" has all the solutions, only a fanatic or someone younger would think, as I did once, too. 

“Woke” has been used by THE RIGHT to describe extreme behavior.  Straight out of the Republican Playbook of Dirty Tricks: Take something good and poison it into something evil.  
 

Being aware of the plight of black Americans is a good thing, isn’t it? So naturally, the GOP beats down black people, AGAIN, by misappropriating their term.  
 

Because, yeah, there are basic forces of good versus evil at play here.  

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4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

More like you hope i won't.

So - here's proof she lies to you again people.  Both articles refer to the same speech - he mentioned it ONCE, at a FATHERS DAY EVENT (imagine talking about families at fathers day) - but the kicker is this was AFTER HE WAS PRESIDENT FOR 4 YEARS.

I said he never used 'family values" during his campaign where he said he wanted to 'make america great again". 

SHe posts this.  - from 4 years AFTER that campaign.

Didn't check the dates didja kiddo :)


So there's your proof people = all the left does is lie. They cannot actually make their point WITHOUT lying.

 

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Conservative propaganda is always about a return to when America was great. During the two-thousands, it was about returning to the eighties. During the eighties, it was about returning to the fifties. During the fifties, it was about returning to the twenties.

No - it isn't. And this has already been proven.  Its about exactly the same thing as leftist propaganada - change.

If it was - you wouldn't have to lie as you just did about what they said during the  campaign.

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

Biden doesn't just say the children are our future, he says America's best days are ahead because the zoomers are smore progressive.

Sure sure - children are our future - next generation will be the best - heard it all before. They all say the same thing, the next is our best and brightest because reasons.  In reality the polling in canada is VERY clear that the youth are leaving the left and dogpililng on the right in numbers never previously believed possible. I suspect the american kids will be the same. But -  biden will still claim they're the 'best generation ever' even if he knew they'd grow up to be nazi's. Or jews i guess - i know you think it's synonymous.

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

His claim, whether you agree with it or not, is that America is going to continue getting better as we become more progressive. This is the opposite of the right-wing idea that we need to return to traditional values.

He lies about it because what he REALLY thinks is that you're dumb enough to believe he actually thinks that way.  :) Sorry kiddo. The only kids he worries about is hunter.

And conservatives simply don't talk about family values much at all. Except for one paid speech on fathers day for their second election :) roflmao :)

Democrats and Republicans say exactly the same thing  when facing an incumbent - "Change! Vote for change!"

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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Democrats and Republicans say exactly the same thing  when facing an incumbent - "Change! Vote for change!"

Yup, they all say that and we end up with a bunch of nickels and dimes.

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15 hours ago, robosmith said:

Nope. Original use was quite DIFFERENT. Sorry but YOU (and right wingers) don't get to redefine the original meaning.

 

 

The original definition of Woke is supposed to be past tense of wake. You Nazis are the ones who started this business of redefining original meanings. And yes, Woke was the wonderful goose stepping LIE aimed at blacks,

"and it was about that for about eight  seconds..."

 

"...and then somehow white women swung their Gucci booted feet over the fence of oppression and stuck themselves at the front of the line. "

(I keep having to pretend I'm a real teacher because you bozos apparently dropped out of BLUE STATE public schools in the third grade, which is equivalent of maybe dropping out in Pre-K in Florida schools. A LOT of definitions have changed. LIBERAL used to stand for laissez faire free market capitalism. It changed and became Hitler/Marxist around the time of the Port Huron Statement. CONSERVATIVE used to stand for totally opposed to anything new, ideas, fashions, opinions, etc As of superior intellects like William F. Buckley, Ronald Reagan and Rush Limbaugh, CONSERVATISM began to stand for laissez faire free market capitalism, liberty, freedom and the rule of law. Things change. Woke today means hard left wing Nazism/Marxism/Terrorism.)

 

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23 minutes ago, Legato said:

Yup, they all say that and we end up with a bunch of nickels and dimes.

I know a couple who didn't.

Ronald Reagan simply said "Are you better off than you were four years ago" and then he gave America the greatest economy of the 20st Century.

Donald Trump simply said "Make America Great Again" and proceeded to give American the greatest economy of the 21st Century, (along with finally bringing PEACE to the Middle East).

I AGREE that there are a lot of Republican politicians/candidates who are all hat and no cattle. But some of them are stepping up.

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9 minutes ago, reason10 said:

I know a couple who didn't.

Ronald Reagan simply said "Are you better off than you were four years ago" and then he gave America the greatest economy of the 20st Century.

Donald Trump simply said "Make America Great Again" and proceeded to give American the greatest economy of the 21st Century, (along with finally bringing PEACE to the Middle East).

I AGREE that there are a lot of Republican politicians/candidates who are all hat and no cattle. But some of them are stepping up.

The 'change' is often far less than advertised. obviously any gov't is going to be a 'change' from the one that came before. One might well argue that even in a second term gov'ts 'change' often enough. Obama did.

But look at trump - "i'll build a wall, hillary will be in jail, i'll stop illegal immigraiton. i'll bring the good paying jobs back to america", etc etc.  Sure - he improved the economy, there's no doubt, and he did do things different than obama - but a lot of the change he promised didn't materialize.

And that's often the case, democrat or republican.

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12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The 'change' is often far less than advertised. obviously any gov't is going to be a 'change' from the one that came before. One might well argue that even in a second term gov'ts 'change' often enough. Obama did.

But look at trump - "i'll build a wall, hillary will be in jail, i'll stop illegal immigraiton. i'll bring the good paying jobs back to america", etc etc.  Sure - he improved the economy, there's no doubt, and he did do things different than obama - but a lot of the change he promised didn't materialize.

And that's often the case, democrat or republican.

He didn't campaign on putting Hillary in jail, although he did hint she should fear that.

He kept more promises than any other president. It doesn't help when Hitler Youth control Congress.

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10 minutes ago, reason10 said:

He didn't campaign on putting Hillary in jail, although he did hint she should fear that.

He absolutely did. 100 percent. He mentioned it frequently.  Here -

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-times-trump-called-hillary-clinton-democrats-investigated/story?id=51138506

Yet - as soon as he was elected he specifically stated that he wouldn't bother prosecuting her becuase 'she's suffered enough' .  That was about day three after his win. Pretty fast backtrack.

10 minutes ago, reason10 said:

He kept more promises than any other president. It doesn't help when Hitler Youth control Congress.

I"m not picking on him - all presidents are like this. I was pretty clear he was an example, not the only one. They all promise change and there's a LITTLE ... not what they promise tho. Obama went from "Yes we can' to  "we probably can't" pretty damn fast. They all do.

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19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He absolutely did. 100 percent. He mentioned it frequently.  Here -

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-times-trump-called-hillary-clinton-democrats-investigated/story?id=51138506

Yet - as soon as he was elected he specifically stated that he wouldn't bother prosecuting her becuase 'she's suffered enough' .  That was about day three after his win. Pretty fast backtrack.

I"m not picking on him - all presidents are like this. I was pretty clear he was an example, not the only one. They all promise change and there's a LITTLE ... not what they promise tho. Obama went from "Yes we can' to  "we probably can't" pretty damn fast. They all do.

George Herbert Walker Bush went back on the "READ MY LIPS NO NEW TAXES" and saddled us with KKKlinton for eight miserable years.

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8 hours ago, Contrarian said:

1. Acknowledging unfairness and striving for equal rights for all is important, but "woke" has also been used to describe extreme and divisive actions and rhetoric that undermine productive conversation and progress towards a common goal.

Right wingers MANGLING the definition of woke to disparage it bears NO LEGITIMACY.

8 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Reasonable folk can stand against the negative aspects of "woke" without denying the importance of equal rights.

Not when the "negative aspects" were invented JUST TO disparage it.

8 hours ago, Contrarian said:
  • I know is hard, to balance, but you can do it. 

 

There is no "balance" in dishonest malice.

8 hours ago, Contrarian said:

2. Everyone fights their own battle, all I am saying is reasonable folk do not need a mob to stand on their two feet. I moved on to the radical centre now. 

Who "needs a mob"?

 

8 hours ago, Contrarian said:

3. I am not hiding it, told you about it. But that is the idea of a centrist, I think anyways, right -> today on some issues, <- left tomorrow on others. The idea that "one side" has all the solutions, only a fanatic or someone younger would think, as I did once, too. 

The idea that one side has only "solutions" to benefit a particular class of people seems to have eluded you.

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11 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Probably the most popular and lasting strategy of conservative propaganda has to do with the idea that everything was great, then something came along and ruined it all.

The overarching strategy of leftist propaganda is to divide everyone along racial, gender and sexual orientation lines based on the idea that everything white men did was racist, evil, and had never been done before, and we created the worst society ever while women and coloured folks did all the work, so now women, brown people, gays and islam need to claim their fair share of everything and make everything right, because historically they've never done anything wrong and they've always gotten along together so well.

Popular leftist narratives include but are not limited to: 1) White men invented slavery, 2) blacks were the only slaves ever, 3) black people ended slavery, 4) islam is the religion of peace and they've never done anything wrong, 5) the hijab is a symbol of women's strength, 6) when coloured people commit crimes it's the fault of white people who forced them into a position where they had to commit crimes, 7) America and Canada are racist hellholes because white men discriminate against everyone, 8. white men are the most misogynistic group of people on earth 9) and if we just let women into the NBA, NHL, MLB, NFL etc women can be men's equals there, etc.  

They start every speech with "We need to be together, we need to include everyone!" and by the second paragraph they're back to their racist tropes. 

1) FYI that whole part is a leftist lie: the word "slave" comes from the Greek word "slav", which is also their word for white people to the north. Tens of millions of white people have been enslaved by other races, including black people. 

2) Every race has been enslaved, many times by their own race, and black people have had their share of slaves.

3) White men ended slavery, period. Europeans were by far the dominant power on earth when they abolished their own slave ownership, and they did it under no threat of force from anyone else. No other group of people ever gave up their slaves, and some countries that pretended to abolish slavery never really did.

4) islam is an extremely violent religion: mohammed himself waged wars of conquest, took slaves, forced women into marriage, and committed genocide. 

5) If there was a symbol of systemic genocidal rape, the hijab would be it. It has been used as a tool to identify infidels' women for centuries, and to make them unsafe. Women who don't wear hijabs in completely modernized islamic societies in 2023 are still subjected to harassment, physical violence, torture and imprisonment to this day. Women who wear the hijab here are a) symbols of OUR tolerance and inclusivity, b) mocking the hijab victims in dozens of countries around the world

6) Black men are railroaded to crime by the popular culture that Hollywood and the Dems embrace/endorse. If you send a black man to see a life coach they will be told to have a positive outlook, work hard, plan for success and embrace opportunity. The message from the Dems and Hollywood is the exact opposite: prepare for racism, your hard work will get you nowhere, and if you commit a crime we will try to get you out of jail. If my son was black I'd tell him to absolutely ignore everything that he sees and hears from Hollywood and the Dems. 

7) NA is a place where anyone can succeed. Very few places offer the levels of freedom, safety and security that citizens of NA and Western Europe enjoy. That's why those are the places everyone flocks to via legal and illegal immigration. The countries of Africa and the ME are rife with corruption, bigotry, and violence towards women and homosexuals. Asian countries are also afflicted with things like communism, dictatorships, bigotry, classism, religious bigotry, etc. 

This is it, baby. As good as it gets anywhere. And instead of saying "Hey, good job, this is one of the greatest places on earth to live" leftists have to b1tch and divide.

8) If you think this is misogyny you're just completely ignorant to the way women are treated in the rest of the world. There are places where rape is legal.

Attempts at making NA less misogynistic and more inclusive for women are actually terrible for them. Eg, allowing trans men to compete in women's sport is a joke, but it's not funny at all. If women's sport ceases to be monetized, because it becomes a farce, or if girls are no longer motivated to compete because they know that their sport has been overrun by trans athletes, that's extremely bad for girls and women. You might not care if you don't like sports, but some women love to compete, and leftists are slamming the door in their faces. 

9) Honest to God, leftists just can't stop pretending that women are the equal of men physically, and why not? They lie about everything else, right? But women are not physically equal to men or there would be way more than zero women in the NHL, NBA, NFL, MLB, CFL and MLS soccer combined. There isn't even a female on a minor league team for any of the teams in those leagues.

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1 hour ago, reason10 said:

George Herbert Walker Bush went back on the "READ MY LIPS NO NEW TAXES" and saddled us with KKKlinton for eight miserable years.

Sure. Trudeau said 'this will be the last election that's first past the post".  That was three elections ago :)

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On 4/6/2023 at 12:54 PM, robosmith said:

Wokeness Has Replaced Socialism as the Great Conservative Bogeyman

 

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Can anyone here define what YOU mean by "woke"?
 
I say it means to face up (awake) to the historical unfairness of society to mostly minority populations like black, brown, LGTBQ, etc.

Wokeness and Socialism are interchangeable; so is Progressivism and Communism. The DNC is infested with it, and so is everything else that isn't Conservative - Wokeness is fast becoming the Great Disease of mankind. 

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3 minutes ago, herbie said:

Proof of my statement. The children of those that built H bombs and went to the Moon with slide rules. Must've been all that exposure to leaded gasoline.

Never sniffed the stuff. 

Meanwhile, you're stuck with your head up the hivemind's a$$ believing there are actual differences on your side of the fence. ;) 

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11 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Conservative propaganda is always about a return to when America was great. During the two-thousands, it was about returning to the eighties. During the eighties, it was about returning to the fifties. During the fifties, it was about returning to the twenties.

Never makes sense, does it. So by their logic... the first iteration of society was the best and it was been in continual decline since then. These conservatives came along much later than this first iteration and so they themselves were born into one of these periods of decline. 

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On 4/6/2023 at 2:54 PM, robosmith said:

Wokeness Has Replaced Socialism as the Great Conservative Bogeyman

 

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Can anyone here define what YOU mean by "woke"?
 
I say it means to face up (awake) to the historical unfairness of society to mostly minority populations like black, brown, LGTBQ, etc.

Woke = service to a corrupt & decadent & cynical & hypocritical elite, hatred of free speech, hatred of interethnic cooperation & peace, hatred of women who want to have babies, a perverted desire to sexualize children, a perverted desire to mutilate children for profit.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/21/how_media_lies_have_distorted_a_tragedy_119311.html

https://nypost.com/2023/03/03/accused-pedo-mayor-patrick-wojahn-called-pete-buttigieg-his-buddy/

https://babylonbee.com/news/amazon-to-enforce-new-one-child-policy-on-all-female-employees/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/armed-guards-protect-anti-gun-celebrities-oscars

https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/Mother-arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html

Too bad the Democrats don’t embrace peace and working folk like they should.

https://amac.us/democrats-have-abandoned-the-working-class/

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12 minutes ago, Mako said:

Woke = service to a corrupt & decadent elite, hatred of free speech, hatred of interethnic cooperation & peace, hatred of women who want to have babies, a perverted desire to sexualize children, a perverted desire to mutilate children for profit.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/21/how_media_lies_have_distorted_a_tragedy_119311.html

https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/Mother-arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html

Your FAILURE to quote passages from your naked links which MIGHT substantiate your CLAIMS means you might as well NOT bother to post links. It almost always means there is NO substantiation there. For instance:

I checked the first ONE of them and "woke" is not even mentioned.

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9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your FAILURE to quote passages from your naked links which MIGHT substantiate your CLAIMS means you might as well NOT bother to post links. It almost always means there is NO substantiation there. For instance:

I checked the first ONE of them and "woke" is not even mentioned.

Sorry if all that reading made your brain hurt.

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2 hours ago, herbie said:

You're proof intelligence is not genetic?

Did you get your genetics from your mother-in-law? I sure as hell didn't. 

How did that happen, herbie, are you married to your sister? 

Please don't answer that. 

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49 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Never makes sense, does it. So by their logic... the first iteration of society was the best and it was been in continual decline since then. These conservatives came along much later than this first iteration and so they themselves were born into one of these periods of decline. 

Of course it doesn't make sense. It doesn't have to make sense because it's not the truth. It's just something that a leftist said, Einstein. 

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