Canadian Catholic student arrested for saying men are different from women.

[Americana Antifa]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Define it yourself. You will anyway - whatever definition i provide you'll claim its something else

 

[Americana Antifa]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

NO, sorry but yet again you are incorrect.

And i think i touched on this before - apologies if i'm remembering that wrong.

China allows some individual ownership of it's industries BUT the gov't is SO heavily involved and controlling of the industries that it is far closer to socialsm than capitalism.  As you say - it's not about the name its about the reality.

Yes, which is why China isn't socialist. Socialism requires democracy.

What you're describing is State Capitalism. Not only do the workers not control the means of production, but the government does.

[Americana Antifa]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It's easy enough to find the story is true. You don't need the name.

I searched and this story only comes up on right-wing blogs. 

You do realize people can make stuff up, right? Like it's not true just because it's on the internet.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Oh - and your own link shows that that paper is not terribly bias. Right of center, not extreme or even right wing. So your claim that they're too bias to use is also in the garbage can.

But it also shows that the NY Post prints fake news. If this is the only source for the story outside of blogs, then I can't take it seriously

[Americana Antifa]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well then i guess there's no nazis anymore because these days nobody thinks its the jews.

I used to think that too, but a few moments on any right-wing social media site shows that's not true. Not to mention all of the dog whistling about "George Soros" and "the Rothschilds" in the media.

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, you're not. That's not how logic works. In fact - based on what you've said it wouldn't even be CMCT anymore.

It's like saying if you think the gov't should have some control  or regulation over industry then you must be spreading communist propaganda because communists think the people should own production.  NO - that's not how it works.

It's just SO wrong it's disappointing that i'd need to explain it.

That's completely different. I'm not saying you believe something that the original nazis also believed, so that means you're parroting nazism. I'm saying that the nazis made up a conspiracy theory, the theory was repackaged in America, and now that's the theory you're parroting.

[West]

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

You admitted that you believe in the Cultural Marxism theory. That's a nazi theory.

You admit to being a commie

[Americana Antifa]

Just now, West said:

You admit to being a commie

I'm a socialist. Never said I was a commie.

[West]

10 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I'm a socialist. Never said I was a commie.

Sad person

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history

 

I guess "Gender Studies pseudoscience" has been around forever. ?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelio_Robles_Ávila

I guess he took one of them WOKE gender classes back in the twenties.

There have always been people with gender dysmorphia or dysphoria.  In exceptional circumstances people have sought sex changes to feel more comfortable in their skin.  That’s not what you’re talking about.  You’re calling mainstream public intellectuals Nazis or “retarded” and justifying compelled speech.  

Edited March 21, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Americana Antifa]

4 minutes ago, West said:

Sad person

Hey, at least I'm standing behind by beliefs. Are you willing to defend your nazism?

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yes, we agree that discrimination happens. However, the governments of many western countries have decided that you can't discriminate (in certain situations) when it comes to certain attributes. You can still be a dick to people for a variety of reasons. But if, for examples, you're hiring people for a business, you can't discriminate based on age, race, ethnicity, gender, and so on. And even then, there are exceptions. Like you can discriminate based on age if the person is underage.

Any kind of sexual preference is fine as long as it involves consenting adults. So no, it's not transphobic if a woman only wants to date or have sex with cis women.

Are you trolling? That's literally what you're doing. You're saying that men can't become women because you think gender is the same as biological sex.

I think you have me confused with someone else here. I never said that females or cis women shouldn't be able to discriminate. I think that should be legal as long as it's not a public space. If a cis woman has a business and only wants to hire cis women, I think that's stupid, but it should be legal.

Oh, verpiss dich. If you really cared about kids, you wouldn't want little boys changing in front of cis men with erections. This is such a fake argument. 

Now you do realize this is a nazi theory, right? "Cultural Marxism" comes from "Cultural Bolshevism." 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

I find it especially funny that you claim the Left wants to replace western values, but it's only the Right that is against things like democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, equality before the law, and so on. These are the values that Western Civilization was built on. Y'all pretend the Left is against western values, then vote for fascists.

Cultural Marxism and Nihilism are what they are and you illustrate both.  Stop crying Nazi every time someone disagrees with you. You sound like a shrill ill-informed activist. Looks like a duck and walks like a duck…

Edited March 21, 2023 by Zeitgeist

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

There have always been people with gender dysmorphia or dysphoria.  I exceptional circumstances people have sought sex changes to feel more comfortable in their skin.  That’s not what you’re talking about.  You’re calling mainstream public intellectuals Nazis or “retarded” and justifying compelled speech.  

First of all, there's nothing "intellectual" about Jordan Peterson. Secondly, I said I don't think he's a nazi, he's just such a retard that he's parroting nazi ideology without realizing it. Finally, he was wrong about the bill being compelled speech. The bill just added gender identity to the list of protected classes.

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Cultural Marxism and Nihilism are what they are and you illustrate both.  Stop crying Nazi every time someone disagrees with you. You sound like a shrill ill-informed activist. Looks like a duck and walks like a duck…

I didn't say Peterson is a nazi for disagreeing with me. I said "Cultural Marxism" is a nazi conspiracy theory, which it is.

[Perspektiv]

4 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

I guess he took one of them WOKE gender classes back in the twenties.

He also was 24. Not a child, like what this current movement is appealing to.

[Perspektiv]

3 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

First of all, there's nothing "intellectual" about Jordan Peterson.

Thats more opinion than fact. His credentials and experience, speak of otherwise. 

You would have to prove he isn't, since he is globally considered an intellectual, basing it more on talking points you just don't like.

Also, he is well thought out, and incredibly articulate. Things that tend to describe intelligence.

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

He also was 24. Not a child, like what this current movement is appealing to.

Deflection. The point is there have always been trans people. The righty media is lying to you when they pretend this is new.

[Perspektiv]

Just now, Americana Antifa said:

The point is there have always been trans people.

Not heavy trans influence. Heavy trans lobbyists. 

Heavy social consequences for questioning trans ideology.

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

The righty media is lying to you when they pretend this is new.

It isn't. However the sphere of influence, is.

When a man could put pigtails and tell you he's a woman and demand to be allowed in the women's changing room (or jail), and isn't escorted form the building. Male ID and all...that is new.

People being petrified to describe woman. That is new.

Thats what lobbying power can get you.

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

 However the sphere of influence, is.

 

What is the source of this power, if people don't support trans rights?  It's being forced on people?  Why?  A conspiracy?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Yes, which is why China isn't socialist. Socialism requires democracy.

But it IS a democracy!  Says so right in their constitution - a democratic dictatorship

Joking aside - you don't need democracy for socialism.

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

What you're describing is State Capitalism. Not only do the workers not control the means of production, but the government does.

But the gov't IS the people.  And that's no different in a socalist state.

You're trying to label things and it's not quite fitting.  What we CAN say is it isn't  capitalism.

 

[Americana Antifa]

22 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

You would have to prove he isn't

He literally thought femdom milking porn was Chinese government policy.

Also, I heard him speak.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

I searched and this story only comes up on right-wing blogs. 

Well that sounds like a lie. I did a quick search and there were a number of media sources and his name was in about half.  I did find SOME blogs but not many.

And that's first page.  I doubt your google skills are THAT much worse than mine. And doing further searches with his name gives more details.

So instead of addressing the fact you were WRONG you'd rather just stick your head in the sand and pretend the world is flat.  Do you wonder why people respect the far left less and less every day?

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

But it also shows that the NY Post prints fake news. If this is the only source for the story outside of blogs, then I can't take it seriously

I think you do more than it does.  Sorry - but you're just dismissing it because you don't like it. There's no indication that paper plants entirely fake stories. Unless you have evidence that suggests it's not true then you're just being dishonest.

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I didn't say Peterson is a nazi for disagreeing with me. I said "Cultural Marxism" is a nazi conspiracy theory, which it is.

And he's spreading it! !!!!!  Ohhh but you're not calling him a nazi - just saying he's Intentionally spreading nazi propaganda on their behalf!  Wtihout being one! Well - you're not saying he ISN'T you're just saying we can't prove he is just because he willingly distributes their propaganda!!"

Give me a break. You're calling him a nazi and not only is he not a nazi but neither is what he's talking about 'nazi propaganda

At least have the balls to say what you're saying instead of trying to dance around it.

[Americana Antifa]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But it IS a democracy!  Says so right in their constitution - a democratic dictatorship

Joking aside - you don't need democracy for socialism.

You can say it's a joke, but this is actually the logic you're using. China calls itself socialist, so it is socialist. You're ignoring everything else.

And yes, Socialism requires democracy. There's no other way for the workers to control the means of production. It's really Capitalism that doesn't require democracy.

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But the gov't IS the people.  And that's no different in a socalist state.

You're trying to label things and it's not quite fitting.  What we CAN say is it isn't  capitalism.

The government is only the people if the people have democracy. Without that, we have no control of the government.

State Capitalism is a form of Capitalism. They still have private bourgeoisie ownership, it's just that the owners are also in the government. Granted, western-style Capitalism is much better than State Capitalism.

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And he's spreading it! !!!!!  Ohhh but you're not calling him a nazi - just saying he's Intentionally spreading nazi propaganda on their behalf!  Wtihout being one! Well - you're not saying he ISN'T you're just saying we can't prove he is just because he willingly distributes their propaganda!!"

Give me a break. You're calling him a nazi and not only is he not a nazi but neither is what he's talking about 'nazi propaganda

Are you illiterate? I told you I don't think Peterson realizes he's spreading a nazi theory. He really is stupid enough to just repeat the things he sees in memes without doing any research.

How is it not nazi propaganda? This is a conspiracy theory recycled from literal nazi propaganda. The only difference is that the part about the Jews is implied, whereas the original theory outright says it's the Jews.

[West]

42 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Hey, at least I'm standing behind by beliefs. Are you willing to defend your nazism?

My nazism isn't a thing