85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

No, because whatever calculations you added to Health Canada's your intent is to get around the base rate fallacy you're blind to. Factor that in and all your math is so much superfluous hooey.

OMG stop saying base rate fallacy. You clearly don't know what it means lol.

@Hodad is the base rate fallacy pimp here. He thinks that when 86% of covid deaths come from 85% of the population it's some kind of dramatic success story. I guess he figured that 85% of people should normally account for 98% of the deaths or something. (FYI that's a base rate fallacy, genius)

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

No the only one who needs anything explained to them here is you. This explains what your mistake is and why you're so confused as a result.

There is no mistake.

Accounting solely for age is a base rate fallacy all of its own. Age only has the second-highest correlation to covid deaths. The highest correlation is with co-morbidities, and we're not given that data.

If you vaccinate 96% of people over 80, and the 4% that weren't vaccinated also have 2 or more co-morbidities, they will absolutely account for a massive chunk of the covid deaths.

Sounds crazy, right?

Just remember that 4% of the population is over 80 and they account for 66% of covid deaths. 96% of covid deaths come from people with 1 or more co-morbidities.

80 year olds with no serious underlying health issues are not expected to die of covid. Vaxing them is money in the bank.

FYI it's actually normal for the vast majority of covid deaths to come from a very small group. That has been the case since day 1.

Goddess · December 28, 2022

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Sounds crazy, right?

It's clown world conversations at this point.

The fanatics have to prove the inoculations are an earthshaking success - while at the same time, for the first time in history - blaming the failure of the inoculations on the people who didn't take them.

More clown world - the first 5-6 jabs aren't working. And the solution is to take more.

ExFlyer · December 28, 2022

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

It's clown world conversations at this point.

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More clown world .......

Fixed

It's clown world THREAD thread at this point.

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More clown world THREADS are not needed

Nationalist · December 28, 2022

34 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Fixed

It's clown world THREAD thread at this point.

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More clown world THREADS are not needed

I'm curious...why do you dislike real facts surrounding The Great Rona Scare? I would think people would be happy that, as facts come in, the whole thing looks like a giant case of Chicken Little.

The sky did not fall. The global death rate hardly blinked and the profiteers were hugely rewarded. The high and mighty experimented with harsh social control and IMO...they introduced a sirum into a major cross section of the populous that is revealing undesirable results.

It seems like you simply have a problem admitting you fell for the massive propaganda? There's no shame in that. But Flyer...your not stupid. Let it go and do the intelligent thing.

Admit to yourself that you might have been lead astray.

ExFlyer · December 28, 2022

14 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I'm curious...why do you dislike real facts surrounding The Great Rona Scare?....

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Admit to yourself that you might have been lead astray.

I, and the world, see facts differently I guess.

My sources have not led me astray.

Goddess · December 28, 2022

28 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

My sources have not led me astray.

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eyeball · December 28, 2022

14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG stop saying base rate fallacy. You clearly don't know what it means lol.

Of course I do, its an illusion - a product of mis-perception. Believing the illusion is real as you do has consequences, like an inability to understand that;

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Most people in Canada have been vaccinated. Because they’re a larger group, there will naturally be more cases among vaccinated people than among unvaccinated people. However, despite their higher case counts, vaccinated people are less likely to get very sick or die.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/cases-following-vaccination.html

Note, I italicized the above to underscore what you've failed to understand. Interestingly enough Health Canada chose to bold the consequence of that failure in the following sentence.

To make the part I emphasized meaningless you need to add a heap of hooey while pretending the vaccine is basically as useless as sugar water or saline. To simply declare Health Canada's statement as an outright lie you need to invent global networks of deception involving corporations and governments not to mention most of the world's journalists and media and national and international scientific academies and institutions around the planet. All these taken together must represent close to a couple of million individuals who are either working in concert and/or are fearful of calling out this diabolical plot.

Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?

In addition I suspect a lot of cognitive psychologists in the world would like to know why everything about COVID is somehow magically exempt from the base rate fallacy.

Edited December 28, 2022 by eyeball

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

It's clown world conversations at this point.

The fanatics have to prove the inoculations are an earthshaking success - while at the same time, for the first time in history - blaming the failure of the inoculations on the people who didn't take them.

More clown world - the first 5-6 jabs aren't working. And the solution is to take more.

If they aren't an earth-shaking success, then the forced-vaccinations and all the side-effects among the healthy, young people who took the jab although they didn't need it amount to a massive crime against humanity.

Nationalist · December 28, 2022

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I, and the world, see facts differently I guess.

My sources have not led me astray.

Have your sources let you know about the negative effects the jab is producing? How about the increase in "unexplained" deaths? Decrease in natural immunity?

No...there are only 2 explanations for what's been done:

Stupidity or malice.

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

To simply declare Health Canada's statement as an outright lie you need to invent global networks of deception involving corporations and governments not to mention most of the world's journalists and media and national and international scientific academies and institutions around the planet.

Their site is like deception 101.

"Only 4.5% of covid deaths are among the 4x-vaxed... YAY! It's a triumph of science!!!!!"

FYI just a couple million people were 4x-vaxed for one summer. They shouldn't even account for 1% of covid deaths. It's actually alarming.

Why doesn't Health Canada mention that covid deaths aren't down at all since the start of the massive vax campaign?

Why don't they mention that 86% of civd deaths this year are among the multi-vaxed... Why do I have to tell you that for them?

Why did the "world's journalists", who you seem to think are some kind of trusted info source, pimp the number of covid deaths in May - Dec 2020 as "so high that we have to keep our country shut down until we get a vaccine!" and then start acting like the number of deaths was acceptable after the vax rollout, even though the number of deaths didn't go down at all?

Why did Trudeau and Biden say: "It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated!!!" when only 15% of covid deaths were among the unvaccinated?

eyeball · December 28, 2022

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

....only 15% of covid deaths were among the unvaccinated?

No, it's closer to 50% and you only make up about 10% of the population.

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Their site is like deception 101.

Which is part of a massive crime you say Liberals are committing not only against Canadians but also against humanity.

Where is Pierre Poilivre and why is he not demanding that the RCMP lay charges? I guess he must also have no reason to disbelieve Health Canada.

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Stupidity or malice.

It was malice.

Everything that was said and done since day 1 was to railroad us towards yearly vaccinations from now to eternity. The profits that Big Pharma would make from that would be astronomical and they'd never end. 3 millilitre shots will go for USD $110 in 2023 and they'll be our only saviour for the rest of days, according to @Hodad, @ExFlyer and @eyeball.

The vax pimps in the CDC and leftist gov'ts pretended like it was absolutely certain that the virus came from a bat in a wetmarket even though Fauci knew first-hand that gain-of-function research was being done on coronaviruses in the lab next door, the earliest infections were among lab workers, the Chinese gov't never allowed the lab to be investigated, etc. Then they acted like they expected this coronavirus wouldn't likely spread from H2H, even though the virus in the lab was modified to spread from H2H.

Leftist leaders like Trudeau, Pelosi, DeBlasio etc started off completely ignoring covid, doing all the wrong things, and giving all the worst advice possible, then their first show of any real interest in covid was at the mention that cheap, off-patent drugs might help fight covid. It struck me as really odd that they were initially so blasé about covid and then they were suddenly so passionate and so certain that HCQ wouldn't work. Their interest went from 0-100, like someone kicked a hornet's nest. "HCQ MAKES PEOPLE BLIND! HCQ KILLS PEOPLE! TRUMP JUST STANDS TO MAKE MILLIONS FROM HCQ SALES!! A HASTILY CONDUCTED DRUG TRIAL CONCLUSIVELY PROVED THAT IT'S THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO - IT'S IN THE LANCET AND NEJOM!! (which is now retracted) THE WORLD-RENOWNED EPIDEMIOLOGIST WHO DID THE FIRST HCQ TRIAL IS A COMPLETE QUACK AND NO ONE SHOULD EVER LISTEN TO HIM AGAIN!!!!!!

My belief at the time was that if leftard leaders started off fighting against covid as hard as they fought against HCQ, it wouldn't have stood a chance.

Then the exact same group of people who were so skeptical about HCQ suddenly had nothing but blind faith in the vaccines. How weird is it when the world's biggest skeptics instantly become born-again believers? "THE GLORIOUS VACCINES WILL BE PERFECTLY SAFE AND EFFECTIVE!"

Lo and behold - the exact same group of people who initially started shrieking "THE VACCINES WILL BE PERFECTLY SAFE AND EFFECTIVE!" are still saying the exact same thing in the face of all evidence. People died from it. Tens of thousands of kids got myocarditis. An alarming number of women experience serious menstrual irregularities after vaxing. Yet our gov't still pimps it on kids.

Thank God for the vax-skeptics whom Trudeau hates with all his wretched heart and soul. If we didn't have millions of holdouts then we wouldn't have a "control group" to compare with the vaxed group, and the vax-liars in the CDC and our gov't could tell us absolutely anything they wanted about vax-success and we'd have no choice but believe them.

ExFlyer · December 28, 2022

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Have your sources let you know a....

Stupidity or malice.

Please don't demean yourself for that. Everybody has the right to be mislead.

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, it's closer to 50% and you only make up about 10% of the population.

No, it's absolutely 15%, you're just completely clueless.

The number that you're including had 8,000+ deaths in it that were from 2020 and 2021. Our entire country was unvaccinated for the 2020/2021 flu season and that's where those deaths come from.

Stop acting like deaths from 2020 and 2021 are from 2022, you're just the most credulous twit on the internet.

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Which is part of a massive crime you say Liberals are committing not only against Canadians but also against humanity.

That is absolutely correct.

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Where is Pierre Poilivre and why is he not demanding that the RCMP lay charges? I guess he must also have no reason to disbelieve Health Canada.

When you blather you always seem to forget that the MSM here controls the vote, and 1) the Pflacebo whores in the MSM are just as guilty as Trudeau for spreading covid fear porn and Pflacebo propaganda, probably worse - they have a lot of skin in this game, and 2) the LPOC owns the MSM right now.

Just remember that Trudeau can go on a billion-dollar crime spree with SNC and WE and the MSM will say "No big deal!", but God forbid a senator somewhere spends $90K on travel expenses which turn out to be legitimate, that's the kind of scandal that makes headlines against a conservative PM for 3 years.

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

Just now, ExFlyer said:

Everybody has the right to be misled.

You cling to that right like a drowning man clutching at straws.

ExFlyer · December 28, 2022

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It was malice.

Everything that was said and done since day 1 was

...... but believe them.

Yup. Says you.

The greater general public is far more important than you....get used to it LOL

But hey, you are what you are and can be whatever you want.

ExFlyer · December 28, 2022

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

You cling to that right like a drowning man clutching at straws.

Oh no, I am more than OK.

Much to your chagrin I guess but, I really, if you don't already know, care about anything you say about covid and vaccinations.

So, keep on with the Don Quixote act.

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup. Says you.

The greater general public is far more important than you....get used to it LOL

But hey, you are what you are and can be whatever you want.

You have the right to remain ignorant, as do the rest of Fauci's useful idjits.

Just know that a large majority of the people who took the first two jabs aren't going to be taking any more.

It's not like 85% of Canadians are vaxtards, you guys only make up about 25% of us, you're just a vocal minority (empty vessels make the most noise).

WestCanMan · December 28, 2022

4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Oh no, I am more than OK.

That's a non-sequitur, but whatever.

Just know that every time you post here you bump the title "85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths" up to the top ?

eyeball · December 28, 2022

44 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

When you blather you always seem to forget that the MSM here controls the vote, and 1) the Pflacebo whores in the MSM are just as guilty as Trudeau for spreading covid fear porn and Pflacebo propaganda, probably worse - they have a lot of skin in this game, and 2) the LPOC owns the MSM right now.

This is why Pierre Poilievre won't touch your issues with a 10' pole, there's no way to do so without sounding like a complete lunatic.

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Just remember that Trudeau can go on a billion-dollar crime spree with SNC and WE and the MSM will say "No big deal!", but God forbid a senator somewhere spends $90K on travel expenses which turn out to be legitimate, that's the kind of scandal that makes headlines against a conservative PM for 3 years.

Seems it was big enough a deal to help limit Trudeau to two minorities in a row - according to you he owns the MSM so how do you explain that?

What keeps the Conservatives from not being in power as often as the Liberals is that Conservatives have a lunatic fringe that's fringier than the lunatics the Liberals attract.

ExFlyer · December 28, 2022

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You have the right to remain ignorant, as do the rest of Fauci's useful idjits.

Just know that a large majority of the people who took the first two jabs aren't going to be taking any more.

It's not like 85% of Canadians are vaxtards, you guys only make up about 25% of us, you're just a vocal minority (empty vessels make the most noise).

52 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's a non-sequitur, but whatever.

Just know that every time you post here you bump the title "85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths" up to the top ?

So WestCovidman, sorry you don't like what I believe. I am so butt hurt.... NOT! LOL

You are just tiresome with your blather and banter. You can repeat your banter as often as you wish, I will just read and laugh But hey, you can keep stroking your ilk, they like it. I chime in time to time just to get you to reiterate (often with changes) of your bunk.

You keep doing whatever it is you do and I will keep being happy with my choices.

Oh and, I have the right to be right just as you have the right to be incoherent and wrong.

Nationalist · December 29, 2022

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Please don't demean yourself for that. Everybody has the right to be mislead.

Then Flyer...I'm afraid you've exercised your rights...I guess...

Nationalist · December 29, 2022

8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup. Says you.

The greater general public is far more important than you....get used to it LOL

But hey, you are what you are and can be whatever you want.

Is that what's important to you? Going along with a majority?

What if the majority have been lied to and believed the lies?

ExFlyer · December 29, 2022

10 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Then Flyer...I'm afraid you've exercised your rights...I guess...

Absolutley, just like everyone else on this forum, you included.

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Is that what's important to you? Going along with a majority?

What if the majority have been lied to and believed the lies?

Clearly you are unfamiliar with the term "public health".

"Health care is vital to all of us some of the time, but public health is vital to all of us all of the time.
—C. Everett Koop, former U.S. surgeon general"

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/communications-guide/what-is-public-health/