85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

No, there's nothing but your hooey.

No, it came from your butt.

Because it's what liars do. It's who you are. 

If you have nothing to add why don't you stfu? Or try to find a stat from a different country that shows that the jab was useful in some way?

It will be much less relevant than the data from all 38M people in our own country, but at least you'd have something aside from snotty, childish drivel to spew.

According to Health Canada's data, 86% of covid deaths this summer were among the multi-vaxed. That's a fact. 

Just because you can't do arithmetic doesn't mean that you don't have to acknowledge the facts. 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

According to Health Canada's data, 86% of covid deaths this summer were among the multi-vaxed. That's a fact. 

Just because you can't do arithmetic doesn't mean that you don't have to acknowledge the facts. 

It's only a fact according to you. You're the only one saying this. The problem isn't my arithmetic, I can see what your trying to say just fine. The problem is the same as it was 3 threads back, the fallacy in your thinking. 

If the case rate fallacy has nothing at all to do with it I'm quite sure Health Canada would say so.  Why wouldn't they?

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's only a fact according to you. You're the only one saying this. The problem isn't my arithmetic, I can see what your trying to say just fine. The problem is the same as it was 3 threads back, the fallacy in your thinking. 

If the case rate fallacy has nothing at all to do with it I'm quite sure Health Canada would say so.  Why wouldn't they?

Health Canada doesn't post the deaths by vax status info anymore. Their disinformation campaign was swapped for radio silence as soon as they realized that Canadians saw through their attempted deception. 

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29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Health Canada doesn't post the deaths by vax status info anymore. Their disinformation campaign was swapped for radio silence as soon as they realized that Canadians saw through their attempted deception. 

Well then I guess the next step is easy just gather your evidence for deception and have them charged with murder.

Good luck.

 

[WestCanMan]

32 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Well then I guess the next step is easy just gather your evidence for deception and have them charged with murder.

Good luck.

I guess my next step is to laugh at you again.

Thanks.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I guess my next step is to laugh at you again.

Thanks.

You could also just follow your own advice and try STFU.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

 STFU.

That's good advice for people like you who come here with nothing more to say than: "I can't do basic math", but I have lots to say ?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

That's good advice for people like you who come here with nothing more to say than: "I can't do basic math", but I have lots to say ?

Except your entirely wrong about that and me too. I'm perfectly capable of basic math and I've said the same thing throughout, your math is simple but meaningless because it's guided by the fallacy in your thinking.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Except your entirely wrong about that

You can keep wallowing in ignorance if you want to, that's your right, but a lot of Canadians want to know the basic truths about the covid jabs.

We were told in no uncertain terms that there was a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" going on, but it turns out that 86% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaccinated. FYI that's not a pandemic of the unvaccinated, it's a pandemic where everybody has the same chance of dying as other people in their health demographic, regardless of their vax status. 

We've been told that the Pflacebo was anywhere from 80-100% effective, but covid deaths didn't go down by even 1% after we forced millions of people to vaccinate. Those two occurrences are mutually exclusive: the vax either reduces the number of covid deaths or it's not a vax, period.

When you combine the fact that covid deaths didn't go down at all after we jabbed 85% of the country, with the fact that multi-jabbed people account for their exact fair share of covid deaths, that's a powerful indicator that the jab isn't effective.  

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and me too.

You're a wallower, eyeball. Nothing is more certain than that. 

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I'm perfectly capable of basic math

Then you must be willing to admit that covid deaths didn't go down at all, and that 86% of the covid deaths between Aug 21 and Sept 25 were among the multi-jabbed.

Those statements are purely based on basic mathematics, with no judgements made at all. 

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and I've said the same thing throughout, your math is simple

My math was too difficult for you to understand after I explained it multiple times. 

If you actually understood it then you would have said: "Yes, 86% of covid deaths during that time frame were among the multi-jabbed, buuuuut... de dah de dah de dahhhhh...", at which point I would have eviscerated whatever inane attempt at a counter-point you belched out.

FYI I understand the Hail Mary attempt: "But the majority of the at-risk are jabbinated" - if you recall I was the one who coached you to say it, because it's at least an attempt to stay in the game without looking totally retarded - but that knife cuts both ways....

IF the jab was really reducing negative outcomes by 80% AND the jabbination rates of the at-risk was nearing 100%, THEN covid deaths would be down by MORE THAN the 68% figure that I informed you of, because people outside of the at-risk category rarely die. IE, the overall jabbination rate might only be 85% at that point, but the 'effective' jabbination rate would be almost 100%, because almost 100% of the people who 'needed' the jab, would have the jab. 

I probably can't explain it to you no matter how slowly I type this, but imagine if everyone had a 100% chance of dying if they were exposed to a certain virus, and you vaxed 85% of them with a vax that was 100% effective (because that's all the vax stock that you had), and then everyone was exposed to a high concentration of that virus for an extended period of time. 15% of the people would die. That's an 85% reduction from what would have happened if there was no vaccine. 

But what if only red-haired people with blue eyes died of that disease, and you only had enough serum to vax 2% of the population, but only 1% were redheads?

In that scenario, vaxing only 2% of the population, including all of the redheads, would result in an "effective" vaccination rate of 100% because everyone who needed the jab would have it. Deaths would be down by 100% in that scenario. Get it? 

 

SOOOOOO... vaxing "everyone" in Canada who's in the at-risk category should have brought deaths down by.... 80%. Right? And vaxing almost everyone would bring deaths down by almost 80%. Buut.... deaths went down by 0% after the mass vax rollout. ZEro perCENto. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Bupkis. 

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but meaningless because it's guided by the fallacy in your thinking.

Everything that you say is meaningless because, at your very best, you're just a little guy trying to 1) use mathematical terminology from websites that are way beyond your ken and 2) remain entirely ignorant. 

I have an implicit understanding of all these things or I wouldn't have been able to extract this meaningful and highly pertinent data from Health Can's disinformative slop and then explain it to a dim-witted plebe like yourself. 

Edited January 11, 2023 by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Everything that you say is meaningless because, at your very best, you're just a little guy trying to 1) use mathematical terminology from websites that are way beyond your ken and 2) remain entirely ignorant. 

I have an implicit understanding of all these things or I wouldn't have been able to extract this meaningful and highly pertinent data from Health Can's disinformative slop and then explain it to a dim-witted plebe like yourself. 

It's hilarious that you think the base rate fallacy is a mathematical issue especially since you're the 7th smartest mathematical genius on the internet.  After all this time you still haven't even looked up what it means never mind the impact it has on your ability to think straight.

Did you know the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive fallacy too? (That was a clue BTW)

Recall I asked if you had any expert opinions that might corroborate your belief that your thinking is immune to the BRF. You obviously didn't look but I did and I guess I just knew you couldn't be the only expert who suffers from the illusion that vaccines are ineffective and more importantly why you suffer from the illusion.  

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Kampf reports the proportions of people who were vaccinated in three groups of COVID-19 cases, but in each instance fails to report the vaccinated proportion of the total population; without such context, the proportion of people with COVID-19 who were vaccinated has little meaning.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02837-3/fulltext

You're doing precisely the same thing Kampf failed to get away with doing.  He al least tried to back-peddle but it doesn't sound like he could truly let it go.  

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

It's hilarious that you think the base rate fallacy is a mathematical issue especially since you're the 7th smartest mathematical genius on the internet.  After all this time you still haven't even looked up what it means never mind the impact it has on your ability to think straight.

I knew what a base rate fallacy was before you ever heard of covid.

You're drinking disinformation from a firehose, son. 

Covid deaths didn't go down by even 1% after 85% of the population was "vaccinated". Explain that using your shiny new term, Einstein. 

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Did you know the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive fallacy too?

A perfect example of that is a guy who admits to not being able to do basic arithmetic trying to accuse me of stating a base rate fallacy. 

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Recall I asked if you had any expert opinions that might corroborate your belief that your thinking is immune to the BRF. You obviously didn't look but I did and I guess I just knew you couldn't be the only expert who suffers from the illusion that vaccines are ineffective and more importantly why you suffer from the illusion.

Why did we bother trying to get a vaccine, genius? 

(Hint) To reduce covid deaths might be one reason.

Why is it that the vax is considered a success by the most feeble-minded among us when it didn't drop the weekly death toll by 1%?

Has it saved 6 lives? 

Can you show me where on this weekly death toll timeline?

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  You're doing precisely the same thing Kampf failed to get away with doing.  He al least tried to back-peddle but it doesn't sound like he could truly let it go.  

I'm doing precisely the same thing that I did. 

Telling Canadians what percent of covid deaths came from among the ranks of the multi-vaxed, and what kind of an effect the vax-rollout had on covid deaths (zero). 

TBH, this topic is a perfect example of our different standards: when the vax was confirmed to have reduced covid deaths by zero people per month, you hailed it as a massive success, I call it an abject failure. 

I don't have to guess what level of math you achieved in your academic career, and what kind of marks you got.

Hit the skids eyeball, the jig is up. 

CBC, BBC, WashPo, AP, Reuters, Twitter, FB, etc have all been colluding and banning dissenting info re: the covid narrative since the very beginning. 

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[eyeball]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Hit the skids eyeball, the jig is up. 

CBC, BBC, WashPo, AP, Reuters, Twitter, FB, etc have all been colluding and banning dissenting info re: the covid narrative since the very beginning. 

Prove it.

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Prove it.

No.

The id-iot unnamed experts you follow are the ones making all the extraordinary claims:

100% safe

95% effective

Years of lockdowns

Mass forced vaccination with an experimental concoction will eliminate covid

Covid-zero policies

Locking down children prevents spread

Jabbing children at no risk prevents infection in others

No such thing as natural immunity

Firing people from work-at-home jobs is great for society

20 year olds have the same risk of covid as 90 year olds

No.

YOU prove it. You're the one making extraordinary, anti-scientific claims.

 

[eyeball]

47 minutes ago, Goddess said:

No.

The id-iot unnamed experts you follow are the ones making all the extraordinary claims:

100% safe

No it's only 99.989% safe so yeah....it's pretty reckless alright.

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95% effective

Yes it's pretty clear some do get near that especially with boosters.

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Years of lockdowns

More Iike months actually.  I was never once pulled over or chased indoors by drones. Is it safe to say you and several of your acquaintances suffered this indignity on a daily basis?  I suppose you even had to step over all the dead bodies of the vaccinated.  Must have been awful.

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Mass forced vaccination with an experimental concoction will eliminate covid

What force?

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Covid-zero policies

Not in Canada.

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Locking down children prevents spread

Yup.

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Jabbing children at no risk prevents infection in others

Yup.

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No such thing as natural immunity

If you say so, I haven't heard of any.

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Firing people from work-at-home jobs is great for society

Who on earth was fired for working at home?  Maybe they were caught surfing porn while working.

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20 year olds have the same risk of covid as 90 year olds

That sounds like nonsense.

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No

YOU prove it. You're the one making extraordinary, anti-scientific claims.

 

I'm simply not falling for the extraordinary claim you people make that all of this is part of a massive plot to control and enslave us.  Which BTW you crazy moon-bats have yet to provide any evidence of.  You have one hell of a nerve demanding evidence of others when you do that. 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

No.

The id-iot unnamed experts you follow are the ones making all the extraordinary claims:

100% safe

95% effective

Years of lockdowns

Mass forced vaccination with an experimental concoction will eliminate covid

Covid-zero policies

Locking down children prevents spread

Jabbing children at no risk prevents infection in others

No such thing as natural immunity

Firing people from work-at-home jobs is great for society

20 year olds have the same risk of covid as 90 year olds

No.

YOU prove it. You're the one making extraordinary, anti-scientific claims.

 

He's a complete wipeout. 

He lies, skews, dodges accountability, and he's completely unable to feel any concern whatsoever for the children he's throwing under the bus because he thinks that risking millions of their lives might increase his chances of surviving by 0.05%.

Maybe the word for him is amoral. 

[eyeball]

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

...he's completely unable to feel any concern whatsoever for the children he's throwing under the bus because he thinks that risking millions of their lives might increase his chances of surviving by 0.05%.

Maybe the word for him is amoral. 

There's no doubt the word for you is ridiculous.  What kind of advanced mathematics does it take to derive millions of lives from 0.011?

I am however certainly all in for risking the lives of 0.011% of the population (especially your's) to prevent millions from being infected.  Only the ridiculous wouldn't which is why the government doesn't listen to people like you.

[Goddess]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

No it's only 99.989% safe so yeah....it's pretty reckless alright.

Yes it's pretty clear some do get near that especially with boosters.

More Iike months actually.  I was never once pulled over or chased indoors by drones. Is it safe to say you and several of your acquaintances suffered this indignity on a daily basis?  I suppose you even had to step over all the dead bodies of the vaccinated.  Must have been awful.

What force?

Not in Canada.

Yup.

Yup.

If you say so, I haven't heard of any.

Who on earth was fired for working at home?  Maybe they were caught surfing porn while working.

That sounds like nonsense.

I'm simply not falling for the extraordinary claim you people make that all of this is part of a massive plot to control and enslave us.  Which BTW you crazy moon-bats have yet to provide any evidence of.  You have one hell of a nerve demanding evidence of others when you do that. 

Every single thing you believe was a lie and now that long-term data is coming in - every single thing you believe goes against both science and common sense.

[eyeball]

49 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Every single thing you believe was a lie and now that long-term data is coming in - every single thing you believe goes against both science and common sense.

As opposed to your belief about a murderous global conspiracy to kill and enslave us? If you say so.

[Goddess]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

As opposed to your belief about a murderous global conspiracy to kill and enslave us? If you say so.

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

As opposed to your belief about a murderous global conspiracy to kill and enslave us? If you say so.

No one ever overstated anything about the global disinformation network, aside from you, eyeball.

I've never said that Fauci was trying to murder us or enslave us, you can parse phrases in all my posts 'til the cows come home and you won't find any evidence of that at all.

I never even suggested that CBC was involved in a "global disinformation network" until I had the proof of it. I just informed you that they were liars, which should have been obvious to you long ago.

It's a fact that Fauci knew about gain-of-function research, or he should have, because the approval went through his office. It would be a massive dereliction of his duty for him rubber-stamp something like that without noticing. And that virus killed millions of people now.

Now Fauci's pimping the covid jab as a vaccine but it hasn't reduced covid deaths at all, and 85.7% of the covid deaths in Canada between Aug 21 2022 and Sept 25 2022 were among the multi-vaxed. How is that a vax?

How are you still a Fauci fanboy?

In case you've forgotten, where we stand right now is: the man responsible for the gain-of-function research on the covid virus, which most likely infected your wife and nearly killed her, and killed hundreds of thousands of Americans, is in charge of the entire covid narrative, even in our country and he never lived here, and you're his ever-faithful toady.

Why do you still have that fantasy: "it was probably an anti-vaxer who gave my covid" but you still have a Fauci shrine in your living room? 

Fauci knew about g-o-f research on that virus before he ever said "It definitely came from a bat in a wetmarket! Ban anyone from social media who says "BSL4 lab in Wuhan!"" Did you know back then that Fauci was aware of g-o-f research on that virus, eyeball? Was it important back then? If you knew that about him would you have ever believed him? 

Edited January 12, 2023 by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

No one ever overstated anything about the global disinformation network, aside from you, eyeball.

What global disinformation network?  Point to it.

One simple critical thought is all it takes to demolish your ridiculous cabal/network.  It would take several governments around the world to coordinate the thousands upon thousands of individuals required to pull it off.

Where are the whistle-blowers with transcripts of meetings of this network's directors where are their email trails?  Where is there any evidence of what you're babbling about?  You figure simply changing the name of some initiative and saying ah ha there it is will cut it?  You figure the hooey you imagine is all the evidence anyone needs?

[WestCanMan]

24 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What global disinformation network?  Point to it.

One simple critical thought is all it takes to demolish your ridiculous cabal/network.  It would take several governments around the world to coordinate the thousands upon thousands of individuals required to pull it off.

Where are the whistle-blowers with transcripts of meetings of this network's directors where are their email trails?  Where is there any evidence of what you're babbling about?  You figure simply changing the name of some initiative and saying ah ha there it is will cut it?  You figure the hooey you imagine is all the evidence anyone needs?

There's a thread about it. CBC posted about it.

Two years ago you guys were saying that we were crazy for accusing Twitter, FB, CBC et all of having a bias. 

Now we have a post from CBC saying: "We're in lock-step with BBC, WashPo, FB, Google, Twitter, AP, Reuters and other media giants, controlling the covid narrative."

[Goddess]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

As opposed to your belief about a murderous global conspiracy to kill and enslave us? If you say so.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/goldstein-elitism-not-populism-threatens-our-democracy/ar-AA16ezro?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8931eb1a2edd4b979e664e7d1b585112

 

Maybe you should start paying attention. Even MSM is starting to question the WEF's motives and how much this cabal is influencing democracies.

Chalk another one up for conspiracy theories that later proved true. Looks like the conspiracy theorists are always several steps ahead of you guys in figuring things out.

Edited January 12, 2023 by Goddess

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/goldstein-elitism-not-populism-threatens-our-democracy/ar-AA16ezro?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8931eb1a2edd4b979e664e7d1b585112

 

Maybe you should start paying attention. Even MSM is starting to question the WEF's motives and how much this cabal is influencing democracies.

Chalk another one up for conspiracy theories that later proved true. Looks like the conspiracy theorists are always several steps ahead of you guys in figuring things out.

I can't believe that article is on MSN.

Next thing you know Hillary will be wearing a MAGA hat. 

[OftenWrong]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

As opposed to your belief about a murderous global conspiracy to kill and enslave us? If you say so.

That would require far more competence and savvy than government has.

No, the explanation is probably much more dull and banal than that. More like incompetence and heavy-handedness in figuring out how to handle this.