Hunter Biden, American Anti-Patriot and Xi's Shopping Sherpa

[WestCanMan]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html

Quote

An investment firm where Hunter Biden, the president’s son, was a founding board member helped facilitate a Chinese company’s purchase from an American company of one of the world’s richest cobalt mines, located in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Mr. Biden and two other Americans joined Chinese partners in establishing the firm in 2013, known as BHR and formally named Bohai Harvest RST (Shanghai) Equity Investment Fund Management Company.

The three Americans, all of whom served on the board, controlled 30 percent of BHR, a private equity firm registered in Shanghai that makes investments and then flips them for a profit. The rest of the company is owned or controlled by Chinese investors that include the Bank of China, according to records filed with Chinese regulators.

How is this even a thing?

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html

How is this even a thing?

Why shouldn't flipping a company be "a thing"?

Do you imagine there is something out of the ordinary about China buying companies from Americans?

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/hunter-biden-china-cobalt.html

How is this even a thing?

Luckily there are no Republicans investing in China. except the fit 500 hits on Google:

 

Political Donors Linked to China Won Access to Trump, GOP

Hundreds of thousands of dollars in political donations opened doors in Washington for Chinese nationals with high-level ties
 

Soon after Donald Trump took office, people with ties to the Chinese state poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into his re-election bid to get close to and potentially influence the new president.

The effort had early success in gaining access for those involved, helping them meet the president or top Republicans at fundraisers or at an internal GOP leadership meeting. It reveals how China seeks to build inroads into U.S. politics, gather information on U.S. leaders and if possible affect policy-making.
 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/political-donors-linked-to-china-won-access-to-trump-gop-11592925569

Republican’s wealth boosted by stake in company whose growth linked to China

The Wisconsin Republican senator Ron Johnson, a vocal critic of Beijing who has vowed to launch investigations into the Biden family’s alleged relationships with Chinese businesses, declared $57m in income in his first 10 years in office in connection to his ownership stake in a company whose growth has closely been linked to China.

 

 

 A close examination of Johnson’s financial disclosures and other public filings to the Securities and Exchange Commission, legal filings and other public records reveal that Johnson’s wealth was boosted by his company’s ties to another company that was owned and managed by his family, which in turn grew its business in China, acquired businesses in China, and reported having a loan worth tens of millions of dollars from the Bank of China.

In one case, the company run by Johnson’s family sued the US government to try to press for softer trade relations with Beijing, a position that Johnson himself adopted in a rare break with Trump administration policies.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/13/ron-johnson-income-china-links-pacur

 

How a Tycoon Linked to Chinese Intelligence Became a Darling of Trump Republicans

Guo Wengui has been trailed by scandals involving corruption and espionage. What is he really after?

 

Donald Trump became the Republican Presidential front-runner that summer, and Guo’s instincts proved well suited to the emerging era; he had already joined Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s club in Palm Beach, and he wasn’t shy about praising his own business acumen (“I’m a genius at making money!”). He boasted of expensive tastes: handmade Louis Vuitton shoes, a rare variety of tea that he reportedly declared was worth a million dollars a kilo. Even before he was introduced to Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist, Bannon had heard enough about Guo to pronounce him “the Donald Trump of Beijing.” (Years later, when federal agents went looking for Bannon in connection with an allegedly fraudulent scheme to raise money for a wall on the Mexican border, they found him aboard Guo’s yacht, in Long Island Sound.)
 

…For nearly a decade, he had maintained a secret partnership with one of China’s most powerful spymasters, an intelligence officer named Ma Jian, who had recently been arrested by his own government. Caixin, a Chinese investigative news organization, reported that Ma and Guo had used surveillance, blackmail, and political influence to amass fortunes and evade scrutiny.

 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/10/24/how-a-tycoon-linked-to-chinese-intelligence-became-a-darling-of-trump-republicans/amp

 

Republicans blasting China forget that the GOP enabled Beijing’s rise

…

Beginning in 2000, China’s economic growth began to skyrocket. Beyond its entryinto the World Trade Organization, much of China’s rapid expansion over the last two decades can be traced to a single act of Congress.

In a seminal vote, the United States normalized trade with Beijing, opening the floodgates to the mass outsourcing of well-paying American manufacturing jobs to China. Indeed, the astounding, post-2000 decline in U.S. manufacturing employmentfits neatly with a surge in cheap Chinese imports around the same time.

A whopping 75 percent of House Republicans voted in favor of shippingAmerican jobs to China. Democrats, wary of the myriad economic, environmental and labor repercussions of normalizing trade with China, rebuked a “centrist” presidentand voted against the measure by a two-to-three margin.

A year later, George W. Bush formalized Congress’s vote, granting preferential trade status to China.

Republicans, in short, enabled Beijing’s astounding economic and military rise by swapping millions of good-paying American jobs for cheap Chinese imports. But the GOP’s overwhelming vote in favor of unfettered trade with China came at a staggering cost….

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/497093-republicans-blasting-china-forget-that-the-gop-enabled-beijings/amp/
 

 

Texas leaders criticize China, but state continues to invest billions
 

Texas has adopted an anti-China approach from its state leaders, at least the Lone Star State argues that is has done so.

The state, however, has at least $9 billion invested in China. This investment exists in the face of Gov. Greg Abbott and other state leaders repeatedly speaking out against the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the nation's human rights abuses.

The $9.1 billion only includes state-level funds, and not the 92 local funds across the state.

In 2021, Abbott signed a law designating China as a “hostile nation” and Attorney General Ken Paxton compared the country to “1930s Germany.”

But seven of Texas’ pension funds totaling $9.12 billion are invested in Chinese companies, the majority of that share with large companies like Tencent and Alibaba….

 

https://austinjournal.com/stories/620998087-it-doesn-t-really-make-sense-texas-leaders-criticize-china-but-state-continues-to-invest-billions
 

 

Trump clothing also made in China 

 

 

 

Edited November 1, 2022 by BeaverFever

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Luckily there are no Republicans investing in China. except the fit 500 hits on Google:

 

Political Donors Linked to China Won Access to Trump, GOP

Hundreds of thousands of dollars in political donations opened doors in Washington for Chinese nationals with high-level ties
 

Soon after Donald Trump took office, people with ties to the Chinese state poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into his re-election bid to get close to and potentially influence the new president.

The effort had early success in gaining access for those involved, helping them meet the president or top Republicans at fundraisers or at an internal GOP leadership meeting. It reveals how China seeks to build inroads into U.S. politics, gather information on U.S. leaders and if possible affect policy-making.
 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/political-donors-linked-to-china-won-access-to-trump-gop-11592925569

Republican’s wealth boosted by stake in company whose growth linked to China

The Wisconsin Republican senator Ron Johnson, a vocal critic of Beijing who has vowed to launch investigations into the Biden family’s alleged relationships with Chinese businesses, declared $57m in income in his first 10 years in office in connection to his ownership stake in a company whose growth has closely been linked to China.

 

 

 A close examination of Johnson’s financial disclosures and other public filings to the Securities and Exchange Commission, legal filings and other public records reveal that Johnson’s wealth was boosted by his company’s ties to another company that was owned and managed by his family, which in turn grew its business in China, acquired businesses in China, and reported having a loan worth tens of millions of dollars from the Bank of China.

In one case, the company run by Johnson’s family sued the US government to try to press for softer trade relations with Beijing, a position that Johnson himself adopted in a rare break with Trump administration policies.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/13/ron-johnson-income-china-links-pacur

 

How a Tycoon Linked to Chinese Intelligence Became a Darling of Trump Republicans

Guo Wengui has been trailed by scandals involving corruption and espionage. What is he really after?

 

Donald Trump became the Republican Presidential front-runner that summer, and Guo’s instincts proved well suited to the emerging era; he had already joined Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s club in Palm Beach, and he wasn’t shy about praising his own business acumen (“I’m a genius at making money!”). He boasted of expensive tastes: handmade Louis Vuitton shoes, a rare variety of tea that he reportedly declared was worth a million dollars a kilo. Even before he was introduced to Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist, Bannon had heard enough about Guo to pronounce him “the Donald Trump of Beijing.” (Years later, when federal agents went looking for Bannon in connection with an allegedly fraudulent scheme to raise money for a wall on the Mexican border, they found him aboard Guo’s yacht, in Long Island Sound.)
 

…For nearly a decade, he had maintained a secret partnership with one of China’s most powerful spymasters, an intelligence officer named Ma Jian, who had recently been arrested by his own government. Caixin, a Chinese investigative news organization, reported that Ma and Guo had used surveillance, blackmail, and political influence to amass fortunes and evade scrutiny.

 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/10/24/how-a-tycoon-linked-to-chinese-intelligence-became-a-darling-of-trump-republicans/amp

 

Republicans blasting China forget that the GOP enabled Beijing’s rise

…

Beginning in 2000, China’s economic growth began to skyrocket. Beyond its entryinto the World Trade Organization, much of China’s rapid expansion over the last two decades can be traced to a single act of Congress.

In a seminal vote, the United States normalized trade with Beijing, opening the floodgates to the mass outsourcing of well-paying American manufacturing jobs to China. Indeed, the astounding, post-2000 decline in U.S. manufacturing employmentfits neatly with a surge in cheap Chinese imports around the same time.

A whopping 75 percent of House Republicans voted in favor of shippingAmerican jobs to China. Democrats, wary of the myriad economic, environmental and labor repercussions of normalizing trade with China, rebuked a “centrist” presidentand voted against the measure by a two-to-three margin.

A year later, George W. Bush formalized Congress’s vote, granting preferential trade status to China.

Republicans, in short, enabled Beijing’s astounding economic and military rise by swapping millions of good-paying American jobs for cheap Chinese imports. But the GOP’s overwhelming vote in favor of unfettered trade with China came at a staggering cost….

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/497093-republicans-blasting-china-forget-that-the-gop-enabled-beijings/amp/
 

 

Texas leaders criticize China, but state continues to invest billions
 

Texas has adopted an anti-China approach from its state leaders, at least the Lone Star State argues that is has done so.

The state, however, has at least $9 billion invested in China. This investment exists in the face of Gov. Greg Abbott and other state leaders repeatedly speaking out against the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the nation's human rights abuses.

The $9.1 billion only includes state-level funds, and not the 92 local funds across the state.

In 2021, Abbott signed a law designating China as a “hostile nation” and Attorney General Ken Paxton compared the country to “1930s Germany.”

But seven of Texas’ pension funds totaling $9.12 billion are invested in Chinese companies, the majority of that share with large companies like Tencent and Alibaba….

 

https://austinjournal.com/stories/620998087-it-doesn-t-really-make-sense-texas-leaders-criticize-china-but-state-continues-to-invest-billions
 

 

Trump clothing also made in China 

 

 

 

1) I posted an article from your own leftist rag, the NYT, about Biden's own crime syndicate. You're posting small-time crap from small-time sites.

Can you not speak to Biden selling out your vaunted green energy to China?

 

2) Are you seriously trying to implicate Trump because "people with ties to China poured hundreds of thousands into his re-election bid"?

-He has no control who gives him money

-hundreds of thousands of dollars from China is literally nothing. Hunter made over $11M from the Chinese gov't and his scams in other countries while his dad was VPOTUS.

Hunter made more money from them than 50 US Congressmen make in a whole year from the US gov't. 

Do you have anything to say about that?

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Why shouldn't flipping a company be "a thing"?

Do you imagine there is something out of the ordinary about China buying companies from Americans?

Do you mean: "Why shouldn't the VPOTUS's son be in business with the Chinese gov't?"

I'll leave you to guess.

[robosmith]

22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Do you mean: "Why shouldn't the VPOTUS's son be in business with the Chinese gov't?"

I'll leave you to guess.

Your OP says it was bought by a Chinese company, not the Chinese gov't.

Why? Can't you answer YOUR OWN QUESTION? AFAIK, there is nothing illegal nor unethical about the VPOTUS's son brokering the sale of a business to a Chinese company. 

Seems ALL you've got is SUSPICION about a POSSIBLE payoff. Doesn't mean it happened nor that Joe was involved.

[herbie]

Who gives a shit about Hunter Biden? He's not part of the government.

Unlike the typical fascists that appoint their kin into every position they can.

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

Seems ALL you've got is SUSPICION about a POSSIBLE payoff. Doesn't mean it happened nor that Joe was involved.

I feel that they think saying his name implies wrongdoing.  

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Your OP says it was bought by a Chinese company, not the Chinese gov't.

Why? Can't you answer YOUR OWN QUESTION? AFAIK, there is nothing illegal nor unethical about the VPOTUS's son brokering the sale of a business to a Chinese company. 

Seems ALL you've got is SUSPICION about a POSSIBLE payoff. Doesn't mean it happened nor that Joe was involved.

Lol...well I'm sure glad you're so confident, because in 1 week Americans go to the polls and unceremoniously turf that disgusting sack o' shit...Pelosi.

Then...we're all going to be treated to trial after trial. One of them will be Hunter, his magic laptop, Bobulinski and The Big Guy.

Enjoy...

Edited November 1, 2022 by Nationalist

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Your OP says it was bought by a Chinese company, not the Chinese gov't.

Why? Can't you answer YOUR OWN QUESTION? AFAIK, there is nothing illegal nor unethical about the VPOTUS's son brokering the sale of a business to a Chinese company. 

Seems ALL you've got is SUSPICION about a POSSIBLE payoff. Doesn't mean it happened nor that Joe was involved.

Hunter and his two buds have a 30% stake in a company that's 70% Chinese, including the Chinese Bank, which is owned by the gov't.

It's not like he just did a single deal with them, Hunter and the Chinese gov't are joint-owners of a company. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

 It's not like he just did a single deal with them, Hunter and the Chinese gov't are joint-owners of a company. 

I keep scrolling through pages of Hunter Biden posts and still don't know why anyone should care much less be upset.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I keep scrolling through pages of Hunter Biden posts and still don't know why anyone should care much less be upset.

If leftards found out that Trump's kids were joint-owners of a company owned by the Kremlin they'd be howling like beagles on crack. Or at least they should be.

It's generally considered "not good" for the VPOTUS's children to be in bed together with geopolitical foes. 

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

1.  If leftards found out that Trump's kids were joint-owners of a company owned by the Kremlin they'd be howling like beagles on crack. Or at least they should be.

2. It's generally considered "not good" for the VPOTUS's children to be in bed together with geopolitical foes. 

1. Ok... so you are saying you are allowed to act like a Leftard.  I wouldn't dispute that but most grown ups don't point at people they disrespect and say "I CAN BE THAT TOO !"
2. Business people are unethical, I agree 100%.

[eyeball]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If leftards found out that Trump's kids were joint-owners of a company owned by the Kremlin they'd be howling like beagles on crack. Or at least they should be.

It's generally considered "not good" for the VPOTUS's children to be in bed together with geopolitical foes. 

Yes but, a GOP president himself gazed deeply into Putin's eyes and saw a man American could do business with.

What are we missing here?

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes but, a GOP president himself gazed deeply into Putin's eyes and saw a man American could do business with.

What are we missing here?

What about China too ?  We had a president who was a businessman AND a politician... doing business in China and doing "his business" in Russia if you know what I mean.... JK.

Edited November 1, 2022 by Michael Hardner

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Ok... so you are saying you are allowed to act like a Leftard.  I wouldn't dispute that but most grown ups don't point at people they disrespect and say "I CAN BE THAT TOO !"
2. Business people are unethical, I agree 100%.

1 You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how bizarre it is.

2 Yes, the Biden family is extremely unethical, but in this case they crossed a line between "normal (and entirely) unethical Dem behaviour" and "getting paid handsomely for putting strategic resources in the hands of a geopolitical foe". 

This is yet another nail in the stupid of the old leftist mantra "Aw da jobz dat we destroy heow can be wepwased wif gween enowgy sektow jobz".

The fact is that as we mover further and further away from carbon- & nuclear-based energy we're becoming more and more beholden to places like China, Afghanistan (also China), etc.

Minerals required for green energy... "Joe, help us secure these key strategic assets little buddy" - Xi.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...well I'm sure glad you're so confident, because in 1 week Americans go to the polls and unceremoniously turf that disgusting sack o' shit...Pelosi.

Then...we're all going to be treated to trial after trial. One of them will be Hunter, his magic laptop, Bobulinski and The Big Guy.

Enjoy...

You are confused. The House does not hold "trials" they do investigations.

The only trial MIGHT be for Hunter's tax evasion charge. 

And Pelosi will continue to be re-elected to the House. ?

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes but, a GOP president himself gazed deeply into Putin's eyes and saw a man American could do business with.

What are we missing here?

I missed the whole "gazing deeply" part.

What did Trump and Putin do  together? Where are they signatories on the bottom line of a contract which reads "shaft America for generations to come"?

There's no room for the Trumps on such a contract. The Biden family monopolized that market.

 

I do seem to recall Biden shutting off the oil taps over here though, and then getting bent over one of Mohamed bin Salman's oil barrels. 

[robosmith]

42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Hunter and his two buds have a 30% stake in a company that's 70% Chinese, including the Chinese Bank, which is owned by the gov't.

It's not like he just did a single deal with them, Hunter and the Chinese gov't are joint-owners of a company. 

So what? You've STILL not cited ANY law that was broken. ALL you have STILL is your SUSPICION.

Of course from what I read in your posts, you mistakenly believe your suspicions are facts. They're NOT.

[robosmith]

35 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If leftards found out that Trump's kids were joint-owners of a company owned by the Kremlin they'd be howling like beagles on crack. Or at least they should be.

It's generally considered "not good" for the VPOTUS's children to be in bed together with geopolitical foes. 

Meanwhile Trump has been in bed with the top Kremlin banks for decades and I've yet to see YOU complain about that. ?

Total hypocrisy on your part.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

I missed the whole "gazing deeply" part.

You were probably still in kindergarten at the time.

 

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What did Trump and Putin do  together?

 

Much the same thing, look for advantages they could exploit.

[Rebound]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Do you mean: "Why shouldn't the VPOTUS's son be in business with the Chinese gov't?"

I'll leave you to guess.

What is the law that’s been broken? 
Because if he broke a law, he should be prosecuted. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

So what? You've STILL not cited ANY law that was broken. ALL you have STILL is your SUSPICION.

Of course from what I read in your posts, you mistakenly believe your suspicions are facts. They're NOT.

It's not suspicion. He works with and for the Chinese gov't. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Meanwhile Trump has been in bed with the top Kremlin banks for decades and I've yet to see YOU complain about that. ?

Total hypocrisy on your part.

There's a difference between building a hotel in Russia and co-ownership of a business with the Kremlin, and helping them buy key strategic resources. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You were probably still in kindergarten at the time.

 

 

Much the same thing, look for advantages they could exploit.

Oh, they made a meme together. Good job eyeball.

TBH, that should be Obama there, after gifting Putin Crimea and then just biting the pillow.