Russian Army collapsing - the unsurprising failure of a police-state

[Moonbox]

You picked a source listing data from the first month of the conflict, when it's been going on for around 16 months now.  ?

 Why would anyone think that's a useful source now?  

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, Moonbox said:

You picked a source listing data from the first month of the conflict, when it's been going on for around 16 months now.  ?

 Why would anyone think that's a useful source now?  

Lol...well...you certainly wouldn't. Hell...you'd lose your membership to the Warmonger Society.

"What? No more death and destruction? Oh no no no! You Ukrainians get your cowardly asses back out there and DIE for OUR benefit...you ingrates. "

Edited June 17, 2023 by Nationalist

[taxme]

On 6/6/2023 at 5:13 AM, BeaverFever said:

Quoted for truth!  The above post was Downvoted by Putin apologist @taxme but is now yet another accurate statement proven true despite the denials from the liars and propagandists on the right. When will Putin’s gullible “useful id1ots” face reality?

 

Thousands flee homes as collapse of dam is blamed on Russian forces

Thousands of people were forced to flee their homes and an ecological disaster was unleashed on southern Ukraine by the collapse of a major hydroelectric dam on the Dnipro River, which Kyiv said was blown up by Russia in a desperate attempt to ward off a Ukrainian counteroffensive.

Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, declared the destruction of the Nova Kakhovka dam as an act of terrorism by Russian occupying forces, which have had control of the dam and the adjacent town since last year’s full-scale invasion.

 

Aerial footage showed the dam missing a broad mid-section with the reservoir behind, which had been at record levels, pouring over it and roaring downstream. Towns along its path were inundated, complete houses could be seen floating away in the waters, while countless pets and wild animals scrambled to survive….
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/06/ukraine-accuses-russia-of-blowing-up-nova-kakhovka-dam-near-kherson

And of course you can prove to us all here that Russia blew up it's own dam just to flood Ukraine, right? Knowing your hero Nazi Zelensky, that guy would do anything to try and blame Russia for anything just to make Russia look bad. I am pretty sure that Zelensky would go as far as to blow up a dam if it is were in his interest to do so. Zelensky could careless about Ukraine or it's people.  

I know that Putin is no darling, but come on. If the leftist liberal lying and fake MSM says that this is so, then there are fools like you that will believe every lying word they tell you. When the day comes where we can finally get Russia's side of the story, from the MSM, then everything that I hear and read coming from the MSM will be ignored by me.

I will always question the MSM because they will always only want to give us one side of the story and not the other side of the story. Those working for the MSM are not real journalists at all. They are nothing more than a bunch of leftist liberal activist globalist hacks who only report what they are told to report. 

Try listening to some alternative media for a change. You may start to learn something, if that is possible for you to be able to do. Just saying. 

[BeaverFever]

5 hours ago, taxme said:

And of course you can prove to us all here that Russia blew up it's own dam just to flood Ukraine, right? Knowing your hero Nazi Zelensky, that guy would do anything to try and blame Russia for anything just to make Russia look bad. I am pretty sure that Zelensky would go as far as to blow up a dam if it is were in his interest to do so. Zelensky could careless about Ukraine or it's people.  

I know that Putin is no darling, but come on. If the leftist liberal lying and fake MSM says that this is so, then there are fools like you that will believe every lying word they tell you. When the day comes where we can finally get Russia's side of the story, from the MSM, then everything that I hear and read coming from the MSM will be ignored by me.

I will always question the MSM because they will always only want to give us one side of the story and not the other side of the story. Those working for the MSM are not real journalists at all. They are nothing more than a bunch of leftist liberal activist globalist hacks who only report what they are told to report. 

Try listening to some alternative media for a change. You may start to learn something, if that is possible for you to be able to do. Just saying. 

It did not blow up it’s own dam, it blew up a Ukrainian dam it had occupied, exactly as predicted 8 months prior in order to flood the Ukraine army’s axis of advance. 
 

You say “knowing Zelensky” but you don’t know anything about Zelensky and your baseless claims that he is a Jewish Nazi are seriously beyond brainwashed idiocy.

Putin bombs civilians every single day and murders his own citizens for criticizing him. He has already proven that to him blowing the dam is child’s play that he wouldn’t think twice about.
Do you complain that western media didn’t also give Hitler’s side of the story equal credibility to the allies during ww2? 

Edited June 18, 2023 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...well...you certainly wouldn't. Hell...you'd lose your membership to the Warmonger Society.

"What? No more death and destruction? Oh no no no! You Ukrainians get your cowardly asses back out there and DIE for OUR benefit...you ingrates. "

You seriously think Ukrainians are only resisting a brutal foreign invasion of their homeland because NATO is pressuring them to?  You think they’re doing it for OUR benefit?  Ridiculous. 
 

The only warmongers are the Russian invaders and the apologists like you who want to reward their warmongering by allowing them to keep captured territory and prevent any of it  from being recaptured  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by BeaverFever

[Nationalist]

18 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

You seriously think Ukrainians are only resisting a brutal foreign invasion of their homeland because NATO is pressuring them to?  You think they’re doing it for OUR benefit?  Ridiculous. 
 

The only warmongers are the Russian invaders and the apologists like you who want to reward their warmongering by allowing them to keep captured territory and prevent any of it  from being recaptured  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ya right...hey heard anything about who really blew that dam yet?

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Ya right...hey heard anything about who really blew that dam yet?

Have you?

[Moonbox]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...well...you certainly wouldn't. Hell...you'd lose your membership to the Warmonger Society.

"What? No more death and destruction? Oh no no no! You Ukrainians get your cowardly asses back out there and DIE for OUR benefit...you ingrates. "

The Russians could leave Ukraine, and then there'd be no more war, but you don't want them to leave.  You're here with your pom-poms rootin' Putin, saying everything you possibly can to support him but too cowardly to even admit where you stand. 

Chalk another bozo research job up for Nationalist though: 

March 2022 data is the best source for casualties in June 2023!   ?

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Moonbox

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

The Russians could leave Ukraine, and then there'd be no more war, but you don't want them to leave.  You're here with your pom-poms rootin' Putin, saying everything you possibly can to support him but too cowardly to even admit where you stand. 

Chalk another bozo research job up for Nationalist though: 

March 2022 data is the best source for casualties in June 2023!   ?

 

If you have better info, post it. But you won't. You just wanna watch the death toll rise.

Frankly, I'd be just as satisfied if the Russians did pack up and leave. But that ain't gonna happen. 

So...do you get sexually aroused when you hear about the war machine and the death toll?

[Aristides]

16 hours ago, taxme said:

And of course you can prove to us all here that Russia blew up it's own dam just to flood Ukraine, right? Knowing your hero Nazi Zelensky, that guy would do anything to try and blame Russia for anything just to make Russia look bad. I am pretty sure that Zelensky would go as far as to blow up a dam if it is were in his interest to do so. Zelensky could careless about Ukraine or it's people.  

The Soviets blew up a dam on the same river in 1941 to slow a German advance. 

How would Ukraine blow up a dam in Russian territory? It took several special 9000 lb spinning bombs with a hydrostatic fuse dropped from aircraft flying at 50 feet to breach the Ruhr dams in 1943. 

[Moonbox]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

If you have better info, post it. But you won't. You just wanna watch the death toll rise.

Frankly, I'd be just as satisfied if the Russians did pack up and leave. But that ain't gonna happen. 

Great logic.  On the same token, Ukraine isn't going to give up their sovereignty, and the West (and particularly Europe) isn't going to stop supporting them, and they have far, far more resources at their disposal.  

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So...do you get sexually aroused when you hear about the war machine and the death toll?

Statistics and numbers don't do it for me, but how's that Putin poster on your ceiling doing for you?  What a dreamboat!

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Great logic.  On the same token, Ukraine isn't going to give up their sovereignty, and the West (and particularly Europe) isn't going to stop supporting them, and they have far, far more resources at their disposal.  

Statistics and numbers don't do it for me, but how's that Putin poster on your ceiling doing for you?  What a dreamboat!

Lol. You just can't stand the idea that someone might just not be able to choose sides in your asinine little war.

Edited June 18, 2023 by Nationalist

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol. You just can't stand the idea that someone might just not be able to choose sides in your asinine little war.

People just can't believe you still continue this farce that you haven't chosen sides.

[Moonbox]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol. You just can't stand the idea that someone might just not be able to choose sides in your asinine little war.

I understand those people exist, but it's definitely not you.  

[Nationalist]

52 minutes ago, Aristides said:

People just can't believe you still continue this farce that you haven't chosen sides.

Well I don't give a rat's ass who "wins". Just quit killin' wholesale for what? People Ukraine will never manage time rule?

Good plan!

16 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I understand those people exist, but it's definitely not you.  

Or I am,  and your just a desperate little dweeb...one or t'other. 

Edited June 19, 2023 by Nationalist

[Aristides]

40 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Well I don't give a rat's ass who "wins". Just quit killin' wholesale for what? People Ukraine will never manage time rule?

Good plan!

Or I am,  and your just a desperate little dweeb...one or t'other. 

Aww. Too bad someone took a screen shot of that before you deleted it.

You blew any credibility you had with that one statement.

Edited June 19, 2023 by Aristides

[BeaverFever]

On 6/17/2023 at 10:19 PM, Nationalist said:

Ya right...hey heard anything about who really blew that dam yet?

Russia had means, motive and opportunity to destroy Ukraine dam, drone photos and information show
 

Russia had the means, motive and opportunity to bring down a Ukrainian dam that collapsed earlier this month while under Russian control, according to exclusive drone photos and information obtained by The Associated Press.

Images taken from above the Kakhovka Dam and shared with the AP appear to show an explosive-laden car atop the structure, and two officials said Russian troops were stationed in a crucial area inside the dam where the Ukrainians say the explosion that destroyed it was centred. The Russian Defence Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The dam’s destruction led to deadly flooding, endangered crops in the world’s breadbasket, threatened drinking water supplies for thousands and unleashed an environmental catastrophe. Ukrainian commanders say it also scuppered some of their plans to take Russian positions in a counteroffensive that is now in its early stages.

 

Each side has accused the other of destroying the dam, but the various Russian allegations – that it was hit by a missile or taken down by explosives – fail to account for a blast so strong that it registered on seismic monitors in the region.

Russia has benefited from the timing of the massive flooding that followed the explosion – though areas it occupies also experienced a deluge and the consequences may have been more extensive than expected.

In the region around the dam, the Dnieper River forms the front line between Russian and Ukrainian forces, with Russian ones in control of the dam itself.

Two Ukrainian commanders who had been in the area but at different locations told the AP that the rising waters quickly swamped their positions and Russian ones and destroyed equipment, forcing them to start all over again with their planning and leaving them facing a much larger distance to cover, all in mud. One spoke on condition of anonymity in order to reveal more frankly the extent of the problems caused by the rising waters.

“It’s a regular practice, to mine (places) before a retreat,” said the other, Illia Zelensky, commander of Bugskiy Gard. “In this context, their actions were to disrupt some of our supply chains as well as complicate a crossing of the Dnieper for us.”

In recent weeks, Ukraine’s armed forces have reported limited gains in the beginnings of a counteroffensive to take back territory seized by the Russians since their invasion in February 2022.

Russian President Vladimir Putin himself indirectly acknowledged the advantage to his forces last week, although he maintained Russia’s denials of responsibility: “This may sound weird, but nonetheless. Unfortunately, this disrupted their counteroffensive in that area.”

Kakhovka is one of a series of Soviet-era dams along the Dnieper River that were built to withstand enormous force, amounting to thousands of pounds of explosives. They were constructed in the wake of the infamous World War II “Dambusters” raids that destroyed German dams. Taking out the Möhne dam in 1943, for instance, required five 4.5-ton, specially made “bouncing bombs,” according to the Imperial War Museum archives.

Ukraine is not believed to possess any single missile with that kind of power.

Sidharth Kaushal, a researcher with the London-based Royal United Services Institute, said the Ukrainians are not believed to have any missiles with a payload greater than about 1,100 pounds (500 kilograms).

Nor does it seem credible that Ukrainian commandos could have sneaked in thousands of pounds of explosives to blow the dam, which was completely controlled inside and out by Russian soldiers for months.

As recently as the day before the structure’s June 6 collapse, Russians had set up a firing position inside the dam’s crucial machine room, where Ukrhydroenergo, the agency that runs the dam system, said the explosion originated. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said as early as October 2022 that the dam was mined.

Zelensky, who is not related to the Ukrainian president, confirmed that the explosion seemed to come from the area where the machine room is located. He and an American official familiar with the intelligence both confirmed that Russian forces had been ensconced there for some time. The American spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive material.

The Institute for the Study of War, an American think tank that has monitored Russian actions in Ukraine since the war began, has assessed that “the balance of evidence, reasoning, and rhetoric suggests that the Russians deliberately damaged the dam.”

In the days leading up to the single explosion, Ukrainian military drone videos showed dozens of Russian soldiers encamped on a bank of the Dnieper, relaxed as they walked back and forth to the dam with no cover – suggesting their confidence in their control of the area and especially the dam, which was strategically crucial.

The photos, taken from Ukrainian drone footage, obtained by the AP and dated May 28, showed a car parked on the dam, its roof neatly cut open to reveal enormous barrels, one with what appears to be a land mine attached to the lid and a cable running toward the Russian-held side of the river. It’s not clear how long the car remained.

 

A Ukrainian special forces communications official, who also noted the car appeared to be rigged, said he believed the purpose of that was twofold: to stop any Ukrainian advance on the dam and to amplify the planned explosion originating in the machine room and destroy the top of the dam. The car bomb itself would not have been enough to bring down the dam. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to preserve operational secrecy.

The explosion detected at 2:54 a.m. local time registered on Norwegian seismic monitors at nearly magnitude 2. By comparison, a catastrophic explosion at Beirut’s port that killed scores of people and caused widespread destruction registered at a 3.3 on the seismic scale and involved at least 500 tons of explosives.

“That means it’s a significant explosion,” said Anne Strømmen Lycke, CEO of the Norwegian earthquake monitoring agency NORSAR.

Within a few minutes, water from the Kakhovka reservoir began cascading through the shattered dam, submerging the river’s sand bar islands and flooding much of southern Ukraine, including Russian-controlled territory.

Immediately after the dam’s collapse, some experts noted that the structure was in disrepair, which could have led to the breach. But the area most obviously in disrepair, a section of roadbed near the edge where Russian forces had detonated explosives to block a Ukrainian offensive last fall, was still intact days after most of the rest of the dam collapsed.
 

Ukraine’s intelligence service released an intercepted conversation it said was between a Russian soldier and someone else in which the soldier said “our sabotage groups were there. They wanted to create a scare with the dam. It didn’t quite go according to plan.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-russia-had-means-motive-and-opportunity-to-destroy-ukraine-dam-drone/

[BeaverFever]

23 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Frankly, I'd be just as satisfied if the Russians did pack up and leave. But that ain't gonna happen. 

Seriously. How can you possibly claim you’re neutral when you make idi0tic pro-Russian statements like that demanding Ukraine unconditionally surrender ?
 

You need to elaborate here (but of course you won’t and will just respond with insults):  On what basis’ do you say that “It ain’t gonna happen” for Russia to surrender but not for Ukraine to surrender?

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, Aristides said:

Aww. Too bad someone took a screen shot of that before you deleted it.

You blew any credibility you had with that one statement.

Aww. Too bad most of you Libbies have so little scruples and such weak arguments, that you have to misquote people.

Have a warm and fuzzy day, dweeb.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Russia had means, motive and opportunity to destroy Ukraine dam, drone photos and information show
 

Russia had the means, motive and opportunity to bring down a Ukrainian dam that collapsed earlier this month while under Russian control, according to exclusive drone photos and information obtained by The Associated Press.

Images taken from above the Kakhovka Dam and shared with the AP appear to show an explosive-laden car atop the structure, and two officials said Russian troops were stationed in a crucial area inside the dam where the Ukrainians say the explosion that destroyed it was centred. The Russian Defence Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The dam’s destruction led to deadly flooding, endangered crops in the world’s breadbasket, threatened drinking water supplies for thousands and unleashed an environmental catastrophe. Ukrainian commanders say it also scuppered some of their plans to take Russian positions in a counteroffensive that is now in its early stages.

 

Each side has accused the other of destroying the dam, but the various Russian allegations – that it was hit by a missile or taken down by explosives – fail to account for a blast so strong that it registered on seismic monitors in the region.

Russia has benefited from the timing of the massive flooding that followed the explosion – though areas it occupies also experienced a deluge and the consequences may have been more extensive than expected.

In the region around the dam, the Dnieper River forms the front line between Russian and Ukrainian forces, with Russian ones in control of the dam itself.

Two Ukrainian commanders who had been in the area but at different locations told the AP that the rising waters quickly swamped their positions and Russian ones and destroyed equipment, forcing them to start all over again with their planning and leaving them facing a much larger distance to cover, all in mud. One spoke on condition of anonymity in order to reveal more frankly the extent of the problems caused by the rising waters.

“It’s a regular practice, to mine (places) before a retreat,” said the other, Illia Zelensky, commander of Bugskiy Gard. “In this context, their actions were to disrupt some of our supply chains as well as complicate a crossing of the Dnieper for us.”

In recent weeks, Ukraine’s armed forces have reported limited gains in the beginnings of a counteroffensive to take back territory seized by the Russians since their invasion in February 2022.

Russian President Vladimir Putin himself indirectly acknowledged the advantage to his forces last week, although he maintained Russia’s denials of responsibility: “This may sound weird, but nonetheless. Unfortunately, this disrupted their counteroffensive in that area.”

Kakhovka is one of a series of Soviet-era dams along the Dnieper River that were built to withstand enormous force, amounting to thousands of pounds of explosives. They were constructed in the wake of the infamous World War II “Dambusters” raids that destroyed German dams. Taking out the Möhne dam in 1943, for instance, required five 4.5-ton, specially made “bouncing bombs,” according to the Imperial War Museum archives.

Ukraine is not believed to possess any single missile with that kind of power.

Sidharth Kaushal, a researcher with the London-based Royal United Services Institute, said the Ukrainians are not believed to have any missiles with a payload greater than about 1,100 pounds (500 kilograms).

Nor does it seem credible that Ukrainian commandos could have sneaked in thousands of pounds of explosives to blow the dam, which was completely controlled inside and out by Russian soldiers for months.

As recently as the day before the structure’s June 6 collapse, Russians had set up a firing position inside the dam’s crucial machine room, where Ukrhydroenergo, the agency that runs the dam system, said the explosion originated. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said as early as October 2022 that the dam was mined.

Zelensky, who is not related to the Ukrainian president, confirmed that the explosion seemed to come from the area where the machine room is located. He and an American official familiar with the intelligence both confirmed that Russian forces had been ensconced there for some time. The American spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive material.

The Institute for the Study of War, an American think tank that has monitored Russian actions in Ukraine since the war began, has assessed that “the balance of evidence, reasoning, and rhetoric suggests that the Russians deliberately damaged the dam.”

In the days leading up to the single explosion, Ukrainian military drone videos showed dozens of Russian soldiers encamped on a bank of the Dnieper, relaxed as they walked back and forth to the dam with no cover – suggesting their confidence in their control of the area and especially the dam, which was strategically crucial.

The photos, taken from Ukrainian drone footage, obtained by the AP and dated May 28, showed a car parked on the dam, its roof neatly cut open to reveal enormous barrels, one with what appears to be a land mine attached to the lid and a cable running toward the Russian-held side of the river. It’s not clear how long the car remained.

 

A Ukrainian special forces communications official, who also noted the car appeared to be rigged, said he believed the purpose of that was twofold: to stop any Ukrainian advance on the dam and to amplify the planned explosion originating in the machine room and destroy the top of the dam. The car bomb itself would not have been enough to bring down the dam. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to preserve operational secrecy.

The explosion detected at 2:54 a.m. local time registered on Norwegian seismic monitors at nearly magnitude 2. By comparison, a catastrophic explosion at Beirut’s port that killed scores of people and caused widespread destruction registered at a 3.3 on the seismic scale and involved at least 500 tons of explosives.

“That means it’s a significant explosion,” said Anne Strømmen Lycke, CEO of the Norwegian earthquake monitoring agency NORSAR.

Within a few minutes, water from the Kakhovka reservoir began cascading through the shattered dam, submerging the river’s sand bar islands and flooding much of southern Ukraine, including Russian-controlled territory.

Immediately after the dam’s collapse, some experts noted that the structure was in disrepair, which could have led to the breach. But the area most obviously in disrepair, a section of roadbed near the edge where Russian forces had detonated explosives to block a Ukrainian offensive last fall, was still intact days after most of the rest of the dam collapsed.
 

Ukraine’s intelligence service released an intercepted conversation it said was between a Russian soldier and someone else in which the soldier said “our sabotage groups were there. They wanted to create a scare with the dam. It didn’t quite go according to plan.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-russia-had-means-motive-and-opportunity-to-destroy-ukraine-dam-drone/

Lol...so no, eh? Still just a bunch of conjecture. Here's more conjecture for you.

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-moshchun-irpin-kyiv-war-battle/32286263.html

The Ukraine did it before...and it looks like they've done it again.

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Aww. Too bad most of you Libbies have so little scruples and such weak arguments, that you have to misquote people.

It was a direct quote, and you've never been able/willing to offer any context or clarification to the statement.  That everything else you say echoes what little Vlad and Russia Today say (or Tucker Carlson) paints your picture clearly - that you're Rootin' for Putin.  

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...so no, eh? Still just a bunch of conjecture. Here's more conjecture for you.

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-moshchun-irpin-kyiv-war-battle/32286263.html

The Ukraine did it before...and it looks like they've done it again.

Lol You don’t know what you’re talking about and are comparing apples to oranges. If anything you’re proving Russia DID blow Kakhovka.  You might not be smart enough to figure out how you did that, so let me explain 

The dam on the Kyiv reservoir they demolished was  on UKRAINIAN controlled territory at the time of demolition and was demolished by engineering.  And the Ukrainians don’t deny blowing it. In fact they brag about it. 
 

Meanwhile The Kakhovka dam is on Russian territory so you can’t possibly believe that a Ukrainian work crew was allowed to come in and set up tons of explosives around the facility while Russian soldiers watches.

Like the Russians after them, the Ukrainians blew a dam ON THEIR OWN TERRITORY to impede their enemy’s advance   

Still no evidence of the magical dam-busting super-missile you claim the Ukrainians have. They must be hiding them alongside those invisible “biolabs” that you also foolishly believe exist. 

Edited June 19, 2023 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Aww. Too bad most of you Libbies have so little scruples and such weak arguments, that you have to misquote people.

Have a warm and fuzzy day, dweeb.

Its literally a screenshot of what you said, that’s not a “misquote”. So hard to tell when you’re being dumb from when you’re being dishonest.   Given that you went back and deleted your post I’m going to go with dishonest. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

It was a direct quote, and you've never been able/willing to offer any context or clarification to the statement.  That everything else you say echoes what little Vlad and Russia Today say (or Tucker Carlson) paints your picture clearly - that you're Rootin' for Putin.  

It's a half quote taken out of context and you know it. Yet losers and goofs like you have no honor what so ever...so you continuously exemplify just how low you're willing to sink.

You're a goof.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Lol You don’t know what you’re talking about and are comparing apples to oranges. If anything you’re proving Russia DID blow Kakhovka.  You might not be smart enough to figure out how you did that, so let me explain 

The dam on the Kyiv reservoir they demolished was  on UKRAINIAN controlled territory at the time of demolition and was demolished by engineering.  And the Ukrainians don’t deny blowing it. In fact they brag about it. 
 

Meanwhile The Kakhovka dam is on Russian territory so you can’t possibly believe that a Ukrainian work crew was allowed to come in and set up tons of explosives around the facility while Russian soldiers watches.

Like the Russians after them, the Ukrainians blew a dam ON THEIR OWN TERRITORY to impede their enemy’s advance   

Still no evidence of the magical dam-busting super-missile you claim the Ukrainians have. They must be hiding them alongside those invisible “biolabs” that you also foolishly believe exist. 

Lol...you stay close Beave. I want to see you admit how wrong you've been all along.

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Its literally a screenshot of what you said, that’s not a “misquote”. So hard to tell when you’re being dumb from when you’re being dishonest.   Given that you went back and deleted your post I’m going to go with dishonest. 

Actually...I never deleted the post. Does your family know how dishonorable you really are?